Study: Dispersants may have hurt Gulf food chain
Source: Associated Press
Study: Dispersants may have hurt Gulf food chain
11:25 PM, Jul 31, 2012
NEW ORLEANS A study on possible effects of the 2010 BP oil spill indicates dispersants may have killed plankton - some of the ocean's tiniest plants and creatures - and disrupted the food chain in the Gulf of Mexico, one of the nation's richest seafood grounds.
Scientists who read the study said it points toward major future effects of the spill. One called its findings scary.
For the study, Alabama researchers pumped water from Mobile Bay into 53-gallon drums, then added oil, dispersant or both in proportions found during the oil spill to simulate the spill's effects on microscopic water-life in the bay.
Over more than 12 weeks in 2010, BP's well spewed nearly 200 million gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico. The company used more than 1.8 million gallons of dispersants - more than 770,000 gallons of it at the oil's source on the ocean floor - to break up the oil into tiny droplets.
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sakabatou
(42,152 posts)We knew this for a while. The dispersant WAS toxic.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)that BP dumped it in the Gulf at night, indicating more dumped than stupid EPA allowed.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)They are criminals. They commit crimes.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)It just makes sense to me that one can pour toxins into an ecosystem
and expect everything to be okay
bp and government were idiots and still are
dballance
(5,756 posts)I mean really. Dropping 1.8 million gallons of some chemical that breaks up the organic hydro-carbons of which petroleum is composed couldn't possibly have any unintended side-effects on the organic plants and animals inundated with all that oil and dispersants.
I'd hate to see before and after pictures of any coral reefs. The pictures of malformed, mutant, lobsters, fish and shrimp I've seen are already scary enough.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It's heartbreaking. How anyone could have thought this would be any different than it is is mind boggling.
Yet they keep running those ads about how great the Gulf States are doing, trying to convince everyone that those States are even better off than they were before the fucking oil spew.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)Obviously, BP was prepared for a spill and had a plan - and they didn't care what damage it did. If they had pre-published their plan to poison the Gulf they'd have caught hell, so they gave out a stupid plan that they never intended to be realistic, and had all that dispersant in the warehouse.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Out of sight, out of mind.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Big Mistake on O's part with EPA in cahoots.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)What happened in the gulf was inexcusable. I think it's going to take a long time for the eco system to recover.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)which represent 1 part / 360,000,000,000. I don't really know about such things. Is that significant ?
Above is based on 650,000,000,000,000,000 gallons of water in the Gulf / 1.8 million gallons of dispersants.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)have been found to alter fish health.
Doesn't take much.
Plus...BP sprayed the "dispersants" all over the shoreline, it contaminated grass, nesting sites, waterways, and very very small life whch lives between the grains of sand on the beaches.
then it eventually sank to the bottom of the water, along with the oil, leaving a carpet of toxins.
Much of the Gulf is pretty shallow in a lot of areas out from the shoreline, and much of the food chain lives in those shallows.
That's how I undertstand it, anyhow.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)SIGNIFICANT! The shrimp and crabs are mostly gone from our side of the Gulf. The really sad thing is, they sunk the oil to avoid it being recovered and BP having to pay a fine on it. The really bad thing in that is our Coast Guard helped them to do it! They bought Obama off right before the mid-term elections when many were saying this would be his "Katrina." I am a Progressive and been a DU member for years so I do not say this lightly. I know that to get to the White House and keeping it requires deals we may not like, but this is a travesty. BP has plied all media along the coast with tons of ad money so they will not be willing to say anything negative. These people are still suffering and are still airing for offers on their cases, yet you hear nothing. Anderson Cooper and RChel Maddow (one of my heroes), have yet to come back for a follow up. Now BP sponsors OUR Olympic team while they have sponsored all of the Republican Govs on the coast. Our country is run by the Corps already!!!
wordpix
(18,652 posts)DDT was sprayed on land, not directly in water. I think the ppb were not a large amount, either.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)in Corexit is also used in household cleaning products including apparently some baby wipes.
To the best of my knowledge that never applied to DDT which was banned in 1972 its history of killing birds becoming acknowledged in the 50's. I don't know how much DDT in aggregate had been used in the USA, since being put into general use in 1939 , prior to its ban. I also don't know the extent to which DDT degrades.
I had simply mentioned the dilution of Corexit , assuming even distribution , down to 1 part / 360 billion.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)to an ecosystem
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)concentrated the further it goes up the food chain. So predators like eagles and falcons have higher levels than small prey because they eat the prey and it doesn't leave their system.
I don't know if these dispersants bio-accumulate, but it is already a disaster as it is.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)Depending on tides, the absorption of dispersant, evaporation and other factors, the concentration was quite high in the surrounding area and very likely never came remotely close to an even distribution into the Gulf's quadrillions of gallons of seawater.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)Hugin
(33,143 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Overseas
(12,121 posts)Millions in oil subsidies and this is the "clean up technology" they come up with-- how to protect their image and make things look less awful in the moment.
Ditto for fracking-- instead of continuing study until finding safer ways to get oil out of shale they use toxic chemicals to make natural gas cheap now and expensive later.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)We STILL don't know how much BP is paying in EPA fines, 2 yrs. later.
prismpalette
(38 posts)Those Chamber ads must work about the coast because tens of thousands of people flock to the beaches and encourage their kids to play in this water. People fish from the piers and surf fish and eat their catch. Meanwhile, the natives suffer chronic respiratory ailments and a mild flu that never seems to clear up. Getting an appointment to a local Doctor's office takes about 3 weeks. The weather is still beautiful and the water gorgeous, hard to believe both hide an insidious and pervasive problem. It is frightening what the cancer statistics might look like 5+ years from now.
The biggest industry here is tourism and so it makes sense to belie people's fears to at least prop up local economies so we can keep earning our minimum wages and developers can keep building condos for those misguided enough to visit and forget the cesspool they dip their toes into.
CountAllVotes
(20,870 posts)BP KILLS!!!
otohara
(24,135 posts)I freak out around perfume, imagine being doused with gallons of it.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)Original sources are the best.
Igel
(35,309 posts)The study was done twice, over 5 days in June '11 and 5 days in Aug. '11. Same conditions: contol, just glucose, just oil, just dispersant, oil + dispersant.
In many ways, the glucose is a better control, but they did well to have both. They looked at carbon flow over 5 days, temps are surface temps but the samples weren't free to freely mix with fresh water. They were also held at constant volume so a little new water was added each day to compensate for evaporation.
Prokaryotes liked the Corexit and mixed disp./oil in August. They were indifferent in June. They didn't much like the oil by itself, but they weren't zipped over the control. That makes their increase with the dispersant and dispersant/oil mixtures a bit more striking.
The diatoms were just pissed off. They dropped in numbers in pretty much every condition, both runs.
The dinoflagellates were where the action was. In all cases their numbers eventually plummetted. But in June the control, oil, and glucose conditions they spiked up just after the start of the test, while in the two conditions with dispersant they just dropped. I don't have an explanation for the rise in the control in June. In August, the dinoflagellate numbers just fell.
Ciliates were a big deal. The numbers look like noise. They were statistically significant, however, and are a large part of the findings. More often than not they increased in the control, glucose and oil-only samples. Small numbers, spotty. If you add the June and August numbers there's sort of a pattern that's absent in either. I think something else is going on, but don't know what it is and don't really care. I don't trust the stats, but there they are.
The "heterotrophic nanoflagellates" (think 'mini animals') in June did nothing. Small numbers, about as likely to increase with dispersant as decrease. In August they started high in the pre-test samples but then plummetted. Disp., glucose and control look roughly the same. They didn't like the disp. + oil mix, but liked the oil before dropping off to fairly high levels.
The prokaryotes liked the dispersant and oil, the paper says. But the authors are right--they might have been feeding on the other creatures' corpses. Hard to know for sure without isotope tagging them, but it's very likely.
One problem though, is the difference in just June and August. Their major findings deal with plankton that showed striking differences between the two datasets. Overall their numbers stand as an average, but they didn't have a good reason for the difference. I assume it's annual variation that everybody already knows about, but it matters, esp. since their starting samples were drawn from the water that their data is being used to make predictions about.
Another problem are the interplay of other nutrients. The dispersant and oil and varying concentrations of species altered the N and P levels. No clue what that would do, long term, esp. since in the real world that varies seasonally and also there's more mixing. The oil wasn't spread evenly, nor was the Corexit.
A third is the relative lack of light. They kept the water oxygenated and prevented statification. Good things. A lot of dinoflagellates photosynthesize. The tanks were shaded and to avoid introducing yet another variable bright lights were decided against. (Under the oil slick it's dark; light would penetrate other samples--best to exclude it.) The decline in dinoflagellates makes sense, but in the analysis this isn't a factor. This makes the effects of the other factors larger.
I wish ed research was 1/10th as rigorous (that would be orders of magnitude better than what we have). Still, a fourth problem is they can't say what the problem with the dispersant-containing samples is, on two grounds. One is an internal problem that I really don't much care about--their results don't match other results (different results but with both different dispersants and different temperatures, which is responsible). The serious issue is deciding whether the dispersant is a chemical or physical problem. Rerunning just the dispersant condition with two other samples, each containing droplets of something thought to be innocuous would clear it up.
They're dead to rights. If this pattern continues, it wouldn't lead to the oil's energy moving into the food chain. It would lead to a decrease in energy flow and the only way for the carbon to reach the surface would be through respiration. Or it could be sequestered on the Gulf floor. (That's not a bad outcome, to be honest.) But they were right in stopping at that. Did the pattern continue? (At this point it's not something that we need to set up an experiment about: It's just something we have to measure. They could have compared the microorganism level in their t = 0 samples with historical norms to answer that.)
Then again, the use that society makes of these kinds of studies is the really huge problem. Some scientists like having their studies wildly extrapolated because they like the use of the wild extarpolations without having to make them themselves. But this is essentially one drop of knowledge and we need at least a large lake: Is it the dispersion of the oil that's the problem? Chemicals in the dispersant? How could concentration of dispersant or droplets affect the results? Changes over weeks or months? Would added light matter? How does temperature matter? Starting conditions? Concentrations of other nutrients? Ignorance breeds fear.