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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:29 AM Jul 2017

Stunned McConnell blames Democrats after crucial health care loss

Source: Politico




By CRISTIANO LIMA 07/28/2017 02:42 AM EDT

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell expressed "regret" and "disappointment" immediately after the GOP failed to pass a minimalist Obamacare repeal bill early Friday, blaming congressional Democrats for not engaging "in a serious way" in the efforts to remedy the health care law.

"I imagine many of our colleagues on the other side are celebrating, probably pretty happy about this," a stunned seeming McConnell said from the Senate floor. "But the American people are hurting and they need relief."

-snip-

"I want to thank everybody in this conference for the endless amount of time that they spent trying to achieve a consensus to go forward," McConnell remarked. The Republican senator also thanked President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence for their work in pushing the bill forward. Pence spent much of the preliminary voting period speaking to and seeking to sway Republican lawmakers in favor of the bill.

Despite his party's inability to come together to pass through the legislation, McConnell pinned much of the fault on Senate Democrats. "Our friends on the other side decided early on they didn't want to engage with us in a serious way, a serious way to help those suffering under Obamacare," McConnell said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/28/mcconnell-blames-democrats-healthcare-loss-241067?lo=ap_a1

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Stunned McConnell blames Democrats after crucial health care loss (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
Fuck you McConnell eom Pachamama Jul 2017 #1
He was helpless - Democrats control the Senate dalton99a Jul 2017 #2
oops.............he controls the Senate...It was McConnells fault.. Stuart G Jul 2017 #6
Not my fault. Point a finger, you have three pointed back at you demosincebirth Jul 2017 #56
good one barbtries Jul 2017 #38
Think of the billionaires! klook Jul 2017 #51
Is that why he was just about to cry during his speech? Poor, poor thing. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #49
FU McTurtle Astraea Jul 2017 #3
+100% - n/t mazzarro Jul 2017 #35
Yes. That is the real point. He just wants this through, so they can give tax breaks to the rich. The Wielding Truth Jul 2017 #48
Boo fucking hoo, you vile, evil asshole. You will NEVER destroy President Obama's legacy. catbyte Jul 2017 #4
McConnell the mirror woundedkarma Jul 2017 #5
McConnell's hypocrisy is astounding. forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #33
INSURANCE CORPS LIST PLANS ON TV & INTERNET- MAKE THEM USE THE EXCHANGE TO LIST PLANS! Sunlei Jul 2017 #7
There you were, Mitch, standing there with your Scaramucci in your hand BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #8
And his covfefees. tavernier Jul 2017 #44
Was this before or after he appeared before his Koch overlords Txbluedog Jul 2017 #9
The "Obamacare problems" meme is a RW meme. Republicons ARE sabotaging it & they push the meme. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #10
I remember reading about that little Rubio sabotage luvtheGWN Jul 2017 #32
There's at least one legitimate problem that's not Rubio's fault -- the Medicaid gap Jim Lane Jul 2017 #64
Good points. Thanks. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #65
SoreLoserMan Snowflake republican wankers Achilleaze Jul 2017 #11
..Think about this sentence...and a thoughts about it..... Stuart G Jul 2017 #12
+ 1,000 Achilleaze Jul 2017 #14
bald-faced lie. barbtries Jul 2017 #39
The healthcare bill was handed to them by the insurance companies FakeNoose Jul 2017 #68
Putting The So-Called Repug Plan Together Behind Closed Doors.... global1 Jul 2017 #13
Hit the nail on the head, McConnel didn't want anyone else, he's a liar!!!!!!!!!!! Stuart G Jul 2017 #21
con is a freaking LIAR Marthe48 Jul 2017 #15
Republicans can't govern Mz Pip Jul 2017 #16
They don't bother learning the rules and laws Marthe48 Jul 2017 #20
They complain to get elected but they can't govern themselves out of a wet paper bag harun Jul 2017 #29
Mitch has the majority Zambero Jul 2017 #17
Well said. harun Jul 2017 #31
No one to blame but yourself. .... lib-ruhl Jul 2017 #18
Poor little snowflake turtle has a sad. SHRED Jul 2017 #19
Hard to "engage in a serious way" Cadfael Jul 2017 #22
+1 million KewlKat Jul 2017 #23
Hmmm I seem to recall a keg party in the rose garden... moda253 Jul 2017 #24
And all sorts of high-fiving. So much winning. nt BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #42
These fuckers claim to be about personal responsibility! GulfCoast66 Jul 2017 #25
McTurtle has the years mixed up and the healthcare bill that was being worked on. usaf-vet Jul 2017 #26
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! Javaman Jul 2017 #27
It was the tens of millions of Americans Blue Idaho Jul 2017 #28
Anyone living in a country with universal healthcare or a reasonable facsimile luvtheGWN Jul 2017 #34
My Canadian Friends Blue Idaho Jul 2017 #66
Republicans have the WH and majorities in the House & Senate. Republicans, and Mitch, failed. Freethinker65 Jul 2017 #30
blame yourself you fucking douchebag barbtries Jul 2017 #36
Playing to the dumbasses. GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #37
The turtle was trying to look so intimidating, with arms folded, as McCain gave his thumbs down Motley13 Jul 2017 #40
Good, BLAME US Maven Jul 2017 #41
Some Republicans should be thanking Democrats Bradical79 Jul 2017 #43
I agree with the Honorable Senator McConnell (Turtle-KY) SCantiGOP Jul 2017 #45
How does it feel asshole, to be taken down with the RESISTANCE of the masses, millions of US turbinetree Jul 2017 #46
You tried SO hard to fuck us, Mitch! DemoTex Jul 2017 #47
Hey, Mitch! Wanna give us relief? MineralMan Jul 2017 #50
Talk about delusional avebury Jul 2017 #52
Mcconnell tried to thwart the rules of the Senate..by deferring to the house... asiliveandbreathe Jul 2017 #53
Yeah, he knew what was going on. House would have passed it instead of improving it in Conference. harun Jul 2017 #62
People are hurting and need relief? booksenkatz Jul 2017 #54
Mcturdle you own this. gademocrat7 Jul 2017 #55
"But the American people are hurting and they need relief." relief from McConnell (IMO) Stuart G Jul 2017 #57
Sad, lying turtle. lark Jul 2017 #58
If it would have caused him to have a fatal stroke.... wolfie001 Jul 2017 #59
Bwahahahaha BigDemVoter Jul 2017 #60
The people on our side of the aisle believe that Vogon_Glory Jul 2017 #61
the only thing America needs relief from is REPUBLICANS Skittles Jul 2017 #63
Mitchie and his buddies keep yapping about... 3catwoman3 Jul 2017 #67

Stuart G

(38,453 posts)
6. oops.............he controls the Senate...It was McConnells fault..
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:36 AM
Jul 2017

not someone else.....take responsibility!!!

barbtries

(28,815 posts)
38. good one
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:52 AM
Jul 2017

it is indeed quite a stretch. but he'll fold himself into a pretzel to escape responsibility for HIS failure.

klook

(12,171 posts)
51. Think of the billionaires!
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jul 2017

Tears for the mansion dwellers, afraid to leave their gated communities for fear they might have to interact with plebeians!

BigmanPigman

(51,643 posts)
49. Is that why he was just about to cry during his speech? Poor, poor thing.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:32 PM
Jul 2017

SAD! Really horrible, sad!

Astraea

(473 posts)
3. FU McTurtle
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:34 AM
Jul 2017

As if you ever gave a shit about the American people. You knew this bill was about hurting as many of them as possible.

catbyte

(34,489 posts)
4. Boo fucking hoo, you vile, evil asshole. You will NEVER destroy President Obama's legacy.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:35 AM
Jul 2017

Your entire life is a big fat fail.

 

woundedkarma

(498 posts)
5. McConnell the mirror
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:36 AM
Jul 2017

Reverse everything McConnell says.. literally the exact opposite of what he says is how he plans/thinks/feels. So it's weird that he seems to be pretty happy about this outcome.

forgotmylogin

(7,539 posts)
33. McConnell's hypocrisy is astounding.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jul 2017
The GOP leader pointed to Democrats, saying, "Now I think it's appropriate to ask, what are their ideas? It'll be interesting to see what they suggest as the way forward."

Um, sorted. The ACA is the way forward and was already done.

"They [Democrats] did everything they could to prevent the Senate from providing a better way forward, including such things as reading amendments...for endless amounts of time."

You had EIGHT YEARS. You wouldn't show anyone the text of what you were scrabbling together. You wanted to pass the thing in 20 hours. That's not the Democrats' fault.

"...Such things as holding up nominations for key positions in the Administration because they were unhappy."

Hoisted by your own hypocritical petard.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. INSURANCE CORPS LIST PLANS ON TV & INTERNET- MAKE THEM USE THE EXCHANGE TO LIST PLANS!
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:37 AM
Jul 2017

easy as that Mitch!

BeyondGeography

(39,387 posts)
8. There you were, Mitch, standing there with your Scaramucci in your hand
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:37 AM
Jul 2017

And what a beautiful sight it was.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,052 posts)
10. The "Obamacare problems" meme is a RW meme. Republicons ARE sabotaging it & they push the meme.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:43 AM
Jul 2017

The meme lays the groundwork for their strategy: They hope their sabotage destroys Obamacare and then they will claim it was fundamentally flawed.

Republican Sen. Rubio snuck a tiny provision into a thousand page bill. That provision blocks certain insurance markets and sabotages Obamacare.

Expect a lot more of that.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
32. I remember reading about that little Rubio sabotage
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jul 2017

and wondering why the Democrats don't ever mention it. Every time a Repub talks about the ACA failing, a Democrat needs to follow up with this. Why the hell don't they?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
64. There's at least one legitimate problem that's not Rubio's fault -- the Medicaid gap
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 02:59 AM
Jul 2017

It wasn't part of the ACA as enacted but it's now a real problem, because of the Supreme Court and several Republican state governments. SCOTUS largely upheld the ACA but struck down the mandatory expansion of Medicaid. Some of the more pragmatic Republicans, like Kasich, went ahead with the expansion anyway. Others, however, did not. The result is that there are a few million people who make too much money for Medicaid but too little money for the subsidies. They're subject to the individual mandate to buy insurance but can't afford to.

Of course, the Republicans, keen to deny health care to as many people as possible, would have no interest in working with the Democrats to address the Medicaid gap. Nevertheless, it would be worth the Democrats' while to propose such a bill. The proposal would be just a political stunt but it might be an effective stunt.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
11. SoreLoserMan Snowflake republican wankers
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:44 AM
Jul 2017

should stop whining. It is so lame.

Suck it up. The American people won. republicans lost. Deal with it.

Stuart G

(38,453 posts)
12. ..Think about this sentence...and a thoughts about it.....
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:44 AM
Jul 2017

"Our friends on the other side decided early on they didn't want to engage with us in a serious way, a serious way to help those suffering under Obamacare," McConnell said..................

McConnell and 6 or 7 men from the Republican party constructed this bill...There was NO INPUT FROM ANYONE ELSE

.............NO COMMITTEE MEETINGS
.............NO HEARINGS
.............NO OPEN DISCUSSION
.............NO WOMEN INVOLVED
.............NO DEMOCRATES WERE ASKED TO BE INVOLVED
.............NOBODY BUT MC CONNELL AND 6 or 7 OTHERS...

MC CONNELL IS A FUCKEN LIAR.. HE NEVER TRIED TO ENGAGE ANYONE BUT HIS GROUP

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
14. + 1,000
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jul 2017

This is where real journalists and real news organizations should be forceful voices calling out the blatant, treacherous republican lies, and presenting the facts.

FakeNoose

(32,833 posts)
68. The healthcare bill was handed to them by the insurance companies
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 08:02 PM
Jul 2017

McConnell's "committee" had no meetings, hearings, open discussions or anything else, because they didn't write the f*cking bill. It was written by insurance industry lobbyists and lawyers so they could get everything they wanted. All McConnell added was the tax breaks for his billionaire buddies, and they were set. Nothing to talk about, nothing to negotiate, it was a done deal.

Same thing with Paul Ryan's bill from the House - he got the bill handed to him because he and his committee didn't write shit. Most of the R's don't even know what's in the bill because most haven't read it. Neither has Trump, but we already know he can't read.

global1

(25,285 posts)
13. Putting The So-Called Repug Plan Together Behind Closed Doors....
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jul 2017

even his own Party didn't know what was in the plan. McConnell didn't want to engage with Dems in any way - let alone a serious way. He was only interested in passing something that would amount to the Repugs giving massive tax relief for the 1%'ers.

This was never about healthcare in any serious way. It was a big takeaway from the middle class and passing it on to the wealthy.

His quote about the American People are hurting and the need relief - was about the 1% that were hurting and wanted tax relief - like they need it. This was not about healthcare - it was about greed, greed and more greed.

Luckily - the real American People saw through that and bird-dogged the Repugs all around the country. Threatened the Repugs with their jobs. That's the only thing that they respond to.

A big THANK YOU goes out to all those Americans that made calls, sent e-mails, attended town halls, badgered their representatives all over the country. They were the real hero's in this.

Marthe48

(17,052 posts)
15. con is a freaking LIAR
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:48 AM
Jul 2017

he ignored the rules governing legislation, isolated the Democratic senators, ignored their attempts for bipartisan work on legislation. He has no more familiarity with Senate conventions than a dog. We watched con denigrate all but 13 senators, and ignore the will of the majority of the American people. I hope that when he is next up to vote, that majority votes him the hell out the door. Please stop voting for incompetent venal monsters.

Mz Pip

(27,454 posts)
16. Republicans can't govern
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:48 AM
Jul 2017

They've just been saying no for years. Now that they actually have to do something they don't have the ability. They've spent all this time thrown crap on the wall hoping something sticks.

Marthe48

(17,052 posts)
20. They don't bother learning the rules and laws
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:53 AM
Jul 2017

don't bother listening, looking, reading. They are stupid bullies chosen by even stupider bullies.

harun

(11,348 posts)
29. They complain to get elected but they can't govern themselves out of a wet paper bag
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jul 2017

Their constituents should demand more than people who complain about big gov't and blame everything that is wrong in the world on the "libs", then laugh all the way to the bank.

Zambero

(8,977 posts)
17. Mitch has the majority
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:51 AM
Jul 2017

If he can't hold his members together while Schumer delivers 100% from HIS caucus, then we're observing what is called a classic failure of leadership. Own it, Mitch!

lib-ruhl

(127 posts)
18. No one to blame but yourself. ....
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 09:51 AM
Jul 2017

You had all the votes you needed so don't even go there....

As always, trying to blame something or someone else but never yourselves. .. you better suck it up cause we're going to expose you guys for everything you pretend to be but are not!....

Cadfael

(1,299 posts)
22. Hard to "engage in a serious way"
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:05 AM
Jul 2017

When the door to the room where the bill is being written is locked.

 

moda253

(615 posts)
24. Hmmm I seem to recall a keg party in the rose garden...
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:13 AM
Jul 2017

fuck these people and their incompetence and cruelness.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
25. These fuckers claim to be about personal responsibility!
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:15 AM
Jul 2017

All. they can do is act like the victim and blame others.

McConnell failed!

Trump failed!

Think they are tired of winning yet!

usaf-vet

(6,221 posts)
26. McTurtle has the years mixed up and the healthcare bill that was being worked on.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:21 AM
Jul 2017

When the democrats were trying to provide the country with national healthcare. Trying to provide access for all. Trying to help all Americans it was the GOP who did everything they could to obstruct. In congress in the red states with billionaires money they have tried to kill Obamacare.

The truth is it's the GOP and their overlords that have hinder making the ACA better and more affordable.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
27. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:22 AM
Jul 2017

like the typical right wing moron, he lashes out at the easy target rather than blame his own party for their continued fuck ups.

Blue Idaho

(5,060 posts)
28. It was the tens of millions of Americans
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:22 AM
Jul 2017

Who defeated this bill. Everyone that assembled, called, wrote, emailed, and faxed both GOP and Democratic Congressional critters. if it weren't for the resistance - elected Democrats would have never grown a spine and a few republicans grown a conscience.

It also turns out McConnell isn't nearly as bright as people thought. This is important as the GOP looks to pass a budget that is more harmful than TrumpCare. It's odds are now in serious doubt.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
34. Anyone living in a country with universal healthcare or a reasonable facsimile
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:39 AM
Jul 2017

could have told the GOP that messing with people's healthcare (i.e. limiting access and affordability) is just about the WORST thing a government can do. Maybe in a country where at least 50% of its citizens are under 40 the situation might be different. The US is not that country!
And I almost threw my cup of tea at the TV last night when that dreadful Stephen Moore was going on and on about how horrible "government-run" Canadian healthcare is, and how people want "freedom to choose". No you f'ing idiot, people want affordable access to good health care -- the kind I'm so very fortunate to have. (By the way, my doctor and I make all the decisions about my healthcare needs, and a cancer diagnosis 9 years ago was looked after promptly and successfully -- no waiting!).

Blue Idaho

(5,060 posts)
66. My Canadian Friends
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 02:28 PM
Jul 2017

Just laugh and shake their heads when they hear these wild eyed claims from the nutcases that have no clue about how well the Canadian healthcare system works. America should be so lucky...

barbtries

(28,815 posts)
36. blame yourself you fucking douchebag
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 10:49 AM
Jul 2017

your bill had 17% support from the people you supposedly represent. 17%!

just one more thing to hate republicans for: they never take responsibility when they lose. HUGE assholes

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
40. The turtle was trying to look so intimidating, with arms folded, as McCain gave his thumbs down
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 11:05 AM
Jul 2017

how does a turtle look intimidating especially to the likes of a John McCain?

Maven

(10,533 posts)
41. Good, BLAME US
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 11:14 AM
Jul 2017

You're 100% right, Traitor McTurtle. You tired to kill thousands of Americans and bankrupt countless others and WE STOPPED YOU. Blame us - we welcome your hatred! And fuck you!

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
43. Some Republicans should be thanking Democrats
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jul 2017

Kept them from passing one of the most hated pieces of legislation I've ever seen. As tough as it's going to be for these guys in 2018, it could've been so much worse.

SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
45. I agree with the Honorable Senator McConnell (Turtle-KY)
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jul 2017

and I am proud as a Democrat to take blame for this atrocity's death, and wish to commend our Democratic Senators and the three Republicans who were able to break away from the Tea Party for their service to this country.

turbinetree

(24,735 posts)
46. How does it feel asshole, to be taken down with the RESISTANCE of the masses, millions of US
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jul 2017

we are coming and we are not going to stop

You are an asshole along with the other assholes that voted to hurt human beings that have per-existing conditions your heartless attack to make a buck off death has come home to roost and your fucking party is now exposed. And every fucking rider that your Marco Rubio's of world that will now try to put riders on appropriation bills will be defeated asshole


FUCK YOU


We need asshole Medicare for all Universal Healthcare for all, Single Payer for all , that will give the public relief, asshole





DemoTex

(25,405 posts)
47. You tried SO hard to fuck us, Mitch!
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jul 2017

In the words of my friend Will Pitt, "Fuck me? Oh no, no, no. FUCK YOU. The GOP civil war just broke wide open."


MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
50. Hey, Mitch! Wanna give us relief?
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jul 2017

Resign from the Senate and take a few other Republicans with you. We'd all breathe a big sigh of relief if you did that.

Thanks for your cooperation.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
52. Talk about delusional
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jul 2017

If you choose to hide a handful of men behind close doors churning out health care bills like they are in a pizza parlor while intentionally excluding the Democrats then you only need to look in the mirror to see who to blame. Talk about snowflakes.



If the Republicans have demonstrated anything it is that, when given the chance, they cannot govern their way out of a paper bag.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
53. Mcconnell tried to thwart the rules of the Senate..by deferring to the house...
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jul 2017

I believe this is one of mccains beef...

harun

(11,348 posts)
62. Yeah, he knew what was going on. House would have passed it instead of improving it in Conference.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 03:20 PM
Jul 2017

McCain said eff u to that.

booksenkatz

(3,466 posts)
54. People are hurting and need relief?
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jul 2017

Gee, in that case, maybe they should go to their doctors for treatment.

gademocrat7

(10,677 posts)
55. Mcturdle you own this.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 01:53 PM
Jul 2017

You and your minions wanted to destroy President Obama's legacy. You care nothing about the citizens in this country.

lark

(23,177 posts)
58. Sad, lying turtle.
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:24 PM
Jul 2017

He didn't include the Dems at any step of this process, didn't even include most of his caucus, only 13 MEN. If he'd have had regular meetings and included Dems, they could have had a better product and it might have passed. Instead, they were totally excluded, no participation allowed and then to complain that they didn't vote for this after all of that, totally shameful and mendacious. Repugs wanted to take all the money away from poor people's health and give it to the rich so they didn't want Dems to participate because that was not part of their mandate or goals. they didn't give a shit about real healthcare, this was just a tax bill with medical aspects (if even that) to most Repugs. If R's had pushed fixing the problems instead of stealing $$, there would have been a different outcome. Only most of them don't give a shit, they are just thieves, and that was the whole point of this exercise, stealing $ from healthcare and gifting it back to the richest .01%..

wolfie001

(2,279 posts)
59. If it would have caused him to have a fatal stroke....
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:28 PM
Jul 2017

....then I would have celebrated. This outcome is still very tenuous.

Vogon_Glory

(9,133 posts)
61. The people on our side of the aisle believe that
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 02:34 PM
Jul 2017

People should have affordable health coverage and that McConnell, Trump, Ryan, and other members of the Republican leadership deals in bad faith.

3catwoman3

(24,074 posts)
67. Mitchie and his buddies keep yapping about...
Sat Jul 29, 2017, 06:22 PM
Jul 2017

..."This is what we were elected to do," (repealing the ACA) without having noticed that their constituents have largely changed their minds about this. Surely they at least heard about the dismal level of support, or, more accurately, lack of support once people learned about the secretly-crafted bill. Wasn't it something like 17%.

If your voters change their minds about an issue, Mitch, don't you owe it to them to follow their new preference?

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