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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 04:31 PM Aug 2012

Mars Rover Approaching Red Planet

Source: WSJ

NASA's Curiosity rover was flying under the influence of Martian gravity today, on course and on schedule, as the control room crew in Pasadena got ready for Sunday night's nail-biting landing.

At midmorning today, Curiosity was approaching Mars at 8,000 miles per hour, and is accelerating under the planet's gravity to an eventual speed of 13,200 mph. A heat shield and very-complicated landing system will slow it down to a virtual stop as it hovers with jet power, and the actual rover vehicle is lowered to the surface by three nylon tethers.

Scientists at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory said today that a worrisome dust storm on the red planet was dissipating. "Mars is cooperating by providing good weather for landing,'' said the JPL's Ashwin Vasavada, deputy project scientist for the NASA effort.

A Martian dust storm would have been a serious problem for the one-ton, car-size rover that is billed by NASA and JPL as the most scientifically advanced robotic vehicle ever dispatched. The jet-powered descent vehicle cannot be steered away from its planned landing site, and NASA has one chance to land it.

Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444320704577569281695184866.html

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Mars Rover Approaching Red Planet (Original Post) MindMover Aug 2012 OP
I saw a very detailed report about this last night on the Lehrer Newshour..... CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #1
This is a huge deal and I wish they exboyfil Aug 2012 #2
this is the second rover SemperEadem Aug 2012 #20
No those were the Spirit and Opportunity exboyfil Aug 2012 #21
You really ought to inform yourself better. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #23
Also, just so you know: Those 2 rovers were designed for a 30 day operational lifespan Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #26
I dont' care what they were designed for SemperEadem Aug 2012 #35
I'm not going to put you on ignore, I'm going to tell you I think you're wrong. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #36
You do know the money itself remains on Earth, right? It wasn't packaged with the lander? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #37
And even more mind-blowing... Ezlivin Aug 2012 #3
Wow, I never heard that! Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #19
This is exciting! lunatica Aug 2012 #4
I'm excited! hibbing Aug 2012 #5
I'm sure the $2.5 billion spent could be considered a little extravagant magic59 Aug 2012 #6
We probably could have had a manned landing by now..paid for but the Bushie put us so far in debt shraby Aug 2012 #8
We're a long way away from a manned mission to Mars. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #10
The math is already done. boppers Aug 2012 #12
Can you direct me to something that explains the math? MrSlayer Aug 2012 #13
Some resources (my first google hit): boppers Aug 2012 #14
Cool. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #15
We can get to Mars, stay a year, and get back for only $30 Billion. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #17
Yes, I was wrong on this. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #18
I bought that book years ago. Never had a chance to actually read it fujiyama Aug 2012 #32
I suggest we send a manned mission one way, do you think any scientists would be interested in going crimson77 Aug 2012 #25
We piss that much away customerserviceguy Aug 2012 #9
Anyone complaining about NASA's funding needs their perspective checked. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #11
Not this shit again. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #16
Grumble Grumble Grumble Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #22
You must be real fun at parties. crimson77 Aug 2012 #24
NASA spacecraft speeding toward a landing on Mars Judi Lynn Aug 2012 #7
Astonishing image from the rover Cirque du So-What Aug 2012 #27
To boldly go... Octafish Aug 2012 #28
Link to live coverage of the Mars rover landing tawadi Aug 2012 #29
I hope this one is as tough as the little R2D2s, Spirit and Opportunity. Can't wait. Monk06 Aug 2012 #30
Given how much larger it is, if it was that tough it'd crack Mars' crust on landing. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #31
They did it!!!!! Fuck yeah!!!!!!!!! Great job NASA and JPL!!!!!! neverforget Aug 2012 #33
Super yeah!!! truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #34

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,583 posts)
1. I saw a very detailed report about this last night on the Lehrer Newshour.....
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 04:33 PM
Aug 2012

Absolutely fascinating!

I really hope it goes as perfectly as they've planned.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. This is a huge deal and I wish they
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 04:52 PM
Aug 2012

had a second rover to reduce the overall risk to the program. Last year when I read a detailed article about it, I thought that the risks sounded really high for a successful mission.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
20. this is the second rover
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:54 AM
Aug 2012

there is already one on the planet that they lost touch with years ago. It stopped working. All those millions of dollars down the drain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_rover

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
21. No those were the Spirit and Opportunity
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 07:23 AM
Aug 2012

They did great and lasted far longer than expected. That mission was a huge success. Spirit lasted six years (less than a year was anticipated). Opportunity is still operating.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
26. Also, just so you know: Those 2 rovers were designed for a 30 day operational lifespan
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 06:11 PM
Aug 2012

they functioned effectively for approx. 7-8 years EACH, and as far as I understand it, Opportunity is STILL functional and sending back science.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/opportunity-rover_n_1231108.html

(take that, people who say Americans "can't build anything anymore&quot


You are talking about, without question, one of the MOST SUCCESSFUL exploration missions in the history of humanity itself. We probably increased our knowledge of the Planet Mars by a factor of 100, through those 2 rovers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_information_from_the_Mars_Exploration_Rover_mission







SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
35. I dont' care what they were designed for
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:10 PM
Aug 2012

that's a lot of money that can't be recovered.

you're more than welcome to put me on ignore if you can't handle that.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
36. I'm not going to put you on ignore, I'm going to tell you I think you're wrong.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:38 PM
Aug 2012

That money was spent right here at home, on advances in technology, among other things.

And it paid off in science and knowledge; terabytes, and terabytes of science. And knowledge.

And the rover(s) that you claimed upthread "didn't work", did. Spectacularly. I'm sorry that seems to bug you.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
19. Wow, I never heard that!
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 11:42 PM
Aug 2012

The HiRISE camera is legendary for it's hi-res images already.

It'll be nice to actually document a Mars landing!

hibbing

(10,096 posts)
5. I'm excited!
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 05:09 PM
Aug 2012

Hi,
I'm really excited about this, I will have to stay up past my bedtime on Sunday night to see if it makes it. Watch the 7 minutes of terror video that shows the landing, totally cool. Plus one of the engineers has an Elvis hairdo.

Peace

 

magic59

(429 posts)
6. I'm sure the $2.5 billion spent could be considered a little extravagant
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 06:27 PM
Aug 2012

for a country with over 50 million people without health care and 16 percent of Americans now living at or below the poverty line. If the rich elite paid their share it wouldn't be that big a deal but that's not going to happen any time soon.
At least the money is going to science and American jobs plus unmanned space missions make much more sense then manned missions which are a total waste of money.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
8. We probably could have had a manned landing by now..paid for but the Bushie put us so far in debt
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 07:00 PM
Aug 2012

with his Iraq adventure and infamous tax cuts that we will take years to dig out from it.
There sure were bigger and better projects for our money, and people need to be reminded of that from time to time.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
10. We're a long way away from a manned mission to Mars.
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 07:38 PM
Aug 2012

Getting there would be no problem. Getting back is another story completely.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
12. The math is already done.
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 07:56 PM
Aug 2012

The *cost* of sending a person to a dead rock, and bringing them back, is the issue.

Especially when we can send smarter things there.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
13. Can you direct me to something that explains the math?
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 08:30 PM
Aug 2012

Or presents it?

I'm not doubting you, I'm just interested. The argument I presented is what I've been hearing/reading for a long time.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
14. Some resources (my first google hit):
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 09:02 PM
Aug 2012
http://spacemath.gsfc.nasa.gov/mission.html

Depending on time and propulsion methods, mars is doable. I'm not sure if it's in the above link, but the recent "lower cost" method I've heard was to send up return vessels, and return fuel, then send the meatbags. Park the return fuel in mars orbit, along with return vehicles and their supplies, at different orbits on the way.

Takes maybe 10-50 years at most, and the GDP of the whole planet for a few years.

The math is not the issue. The cost is.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
17. We can get to Mars, stay a year, and get back for only $30 Billion.
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 10:04 PM
Aug 2012

According to Robert Zubrin in his book The Case For Mars. It's perfectly feasible with today's technology. It's the political will that is lacking.

$30 billion is a drop in the bucket compared to the "Defense" (ha!) budget.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
32. I bought that book years ago. Never had a chance to actually read it
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:38 AM
Aug 2012

It's sitting on my bookshelf...

 

crimson77

(305 posts)
25. I suggest we send a manned mission one way, do you think any scientists would be interested in going
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:49 PM
Aug 2012

I can tell you, hundreds if not thousands would sign up immediately.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. We piss that much away
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 07:16 PM
Aug 2012

in less than a month in Afghanistan, fighting for the right for men to kill their wives for suspected adultery.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
16. Not this shit again.
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 10:02 PM
Aug 2012


There is plenty of money to go around, it's just that the M-I complex is hogging it all, don't blame NASA.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
22. Grumble Grumble Grumble
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 05:33 PM
Aug 2012

As always, we've got a trillion dollar military industrial complex, we spend $60 Billion a year to throw cancer grannies in prison for getting high, but NASA can't sneeze without someone raising a high holy whiny stink about the price tag.

Science and Exploration are ALWAYS a good value, IMHO. And yes, that includes manned as well as unmanned space exploration.

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
7. NASA spacecraft speeding toward a landing on Mars
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 06:35 PM
Aug 2012

NASA spacecraft speeding toward a landing on Mars
August 4, 2012

PASADENA, Calif. (AP) — After an 8 1/2-month voyage through space, NASA's souped-up Mars spacecraft zoomed toward the red planet for what the agency hopes will be an epic touchdown.

The fiery punch through the tenuous Martian atmosphere at 13,000 mph Sunday night marks the beginning of "seven minutes of terror" as the Curiosity rover aims for a bull's-eye landing inside a massive crater near the equator.

The latest landing attempt is more nerve-racking than in the past because NASA is testing out a new routine. Curiosity will steer itself part of the way and end on a dramatic note: Dangling by cables until its six wheels touch the ground.

That's the plan at least.

More:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/nasa-spacecraft-speeding-toward-a-landing-on-mars/article/feed/2020041

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