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Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:46 PM Sep 2017

Man commits suicide after fatally shooting person by accident, police say

Source: CBS News

CBS NEWS September 4, 2017, 9:09 AM



An Indiana man committed suicide after fatally shooting another person by accident at a party Saturday evening, Hammond Police said.

CBS Chicago reports police responded to the 7100 block of Osborne Avenue around 9:30 p.m. for a report of a person being shot. The first officer arriving on the scene heard an additional gunshot while pulling up, police said.

Witnesses told police there had been a get-together that evening when an attendee, 31-year-old Bryan Carr of Hobart, Ind., accidentally shot another man, Jonathan Culp, 31, of Highland.

Carr attempted to administer first aid to Culp and then told witnesses he "could not live with what he had done" and shot himself, police said.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-commits-suicide-after-accidentally-shooting-person-at-party-police-say/

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Man commits suicide after fatally shooting person by accident, police say (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2017 OP
I'm sure he was a responsible gun owner, just up until he wasn't. Exultant Democracy Sep 2017 #1
In agreement. susanna Sep 2017 #43
So sad, so unnecessary. Ilsa Sep 2017 #2
It sounds like he shot himself almost as soon as the other guy died right then and there RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #4
And yet I've seen conservatives claim that swimming pools are just as dangerous as handguns... Rollo Sep 2017 #3
I can only conclude the man PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #5
or maybe he was just extremely distraught Skittles Sep 2017 #19
And of course, guns make us all safer, right? PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #40
both the deaths were needless and tragic Skittles Sep 2017 #41
I know. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #42
The article doesn't say whether alcohol was involved. But I bet it was. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #6
Tragic all around -nt Bradical79 Sep 2017 #7
Why do you take a gun to a party? Freedomofspeech Sep 2017 #8
There are those people who go everywhere armed. TNNurse Sep 2017 #10
Only way to stop a bad snack ... (n/t) Kennah Sep 2017 #29
These gun idiots take their heat to the grocery store, for Pete's sake. Aristus Sep 2017 #39
why I no longer attend parties mdbl Sep 2017 #45
I'm confused Bob Loblaw Sep 2017 #9
Good question! Maybe the one good guy briefly confused the other good guy with a bad guy! n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2017 #11
One man show. He had both roles covered. (n/t) Kennah Sep 2017 #30
Sorry people, I don't find any humor in this. truthisfreedom Sep 2017 #12
You've arrived at a hasty, inaccurate conclusion if you imagine these people are actually laughing. Judi Lynn Sep 2017 #15
I agree. I never understood why people feel safer with such a dangerous object in the demigoddess Sep 2017 #16
Just one of many stories where one might engage in morgue humor to get through (n/t) Kennah Sep 2017 #31
They were sarisataka Sep 2017 #36
Of course it's tragic. susanna Sep 2017 #44
Is it a war of attrition? bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #13
I think this would seriously be my reaction. I don't think I would be able to live with that. Squinch Sep 2017 #14
What kind of enemies do people have? IronLionZion Sep 2017 #17
Get real, man! GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #20
For a long time there was a lot of discussion here about random guns in shrubbery. The thought Squinch Sep 2017 #34
I'm the one who knocks! IronLionZion Sep 2017 #37
So sad. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #18
He didn't have the fortitude to remain alive to have contrition and the no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #21
You don't think he showed contrition?? Demit Sep 2017 #23
Contrition in the form of wanting to live to no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #24
That only sounds like you wanted him to suffer more, by living. Demit Sep 2017 #25
Redemption is a powerful thing. no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #26
So is ending your life out of remorse. Demit Sep 2017 #28
I agree that the post is nonsense Sucha NastyWoman Sep 2017 #46
They carry guns to protect themselves Doc_Technical Sep 2017 #22
I believe you misspelled gumint (n/t) Kennah Sep 2017 #32
I doubt that it was an accident Not Ruth Sep 2017 #27
If lightning struck the gun, and it fired, that would be an accident. This was negligence. (n/t) Kennah Sep 2017 #33
now two families & all their friends suffer through the worse time of their lives. Sunlei Sep 2017 #35
Anybody who brings a gun to a Saturday night social gathering FakeNoose Sep 2017 #38

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
1. I'm sure he was a responsible gun owner, just up until he wasn't.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:58 PM
Sep 2017

Trigger locks with breathalyzer. Only the evil and the idiotic think our free for all guns for everyone all the time system works.

susanna

(5,231 posts)
43. In agreement.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 03:44 AM
Sep 2017

In my opinion, the majority of guns in the US are bullshit posturing for people who want others to take them seriously because they feel disregarded in some way in their day-to-day life. (Which we all do, so not sure why those who carry need a gun to feel better.)

Sounds like the guy who killed first in this article was a "tough guy" up to, and until he realized, what he had actually done with his power tool. So then he used it on himself?

So now, two families are grieving.

For what?

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
4. It sounds like he shot himself almost as soon as the other guy died right then and there
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:10 PM
Sep 2017

The cult of guns rolls on.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
3. And yet I've seen conservatives claim that swimming pools are just as dangerous as handguns...
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:03 PM
Sep 2017

Go figure...

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PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,925 posts)
5. I can only conclude the man
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:13 PM
Sep 2017

believed in the death penalty, and decided to save the legal system some time and money.

Of course, without the guns in the first place, those two men would still be alive.

Skittles

(153,258 posts)
19. or maybe he was just extremely distraught
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 06:45 PM
Sep 2017

and the availability of the gun helped him make yet another bad decision

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,925 posts)
40. And of course, guns make us all safer, right?
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:23 PM
Sep 2017

In this case, everyone else is now safe from that man, so that's a positive thing.

TNNurse

(6,931 posts)
10. There are those people who go everywhere armed.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:54 PM
Sep 2017

They think they are safer or everyone else is safer or out to get him.

Also it makes them look tough.

Aristus

(66,503 posts)
39. These gun idiots take their heat to the grocery store, for Pete's sake.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:17 PM
Sep 2017

Jumping at shadows like the cowards they are...

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
45. why I no longer attend parties
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 06:19 AM
Sep 2017

here below the mason dixon line everyone thinks guns should accompany them to a baptism. I think I'll just stay home.

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
15. You've arrived at a hasty, inaccurate conclusion if you imagine these people are actually laughing.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:25 PM
Sep 2017

It might help to take time to think things through before undervaluing your fellow human DU'er posters.

Jumping to inaccurate conclusions is never helpful.

People who undervalue other people's lives are probably the ones who feel the need to "pack heat" wherever they go.

demigoddess

(6,645 posts)
16. I agree. I never understood why people feel safer with such a dangerous object in the
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:39 PM
Sep 2017

area. It is especially dangerous when left lying about and when idiots pass it around just to look at it but leave it loaded. One thing that people do not know about history is that our ancestors did not all run around armed. A lot of people in the old days never owned or touched guns. Only people on the frontier and then not forever. Our great and great great grandparents might never have shot guns so why do they have to be all over in the 21st century?

susanna

(5,231 posts)
44. Of course it's tragic.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 03:51 AM
Sep 2017

As is our entire gun culture.

I don't see anyone laughing here, to be honest; I see people at long last explaining that this was a foregone conclusion when the NRA went full crazy, a long, long time ago.

IronLionZion

(45,614 posts)
17. What kind of enemies do people have?
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:46 PM
Sep 2017

that they need to always carry a gun to defend themselves at a party

I hear much more about accidental shootings of friends and family and very few about a hero stopping a bad guy.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
20. Get real, man!
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 06:55 PM
Sep 2017

Everyone knows there are people of color lurking everywhere waiting to pounce...

Don't you watch Fox?






Hopefully not needed but these days you never know.

Squinch

(51,074 posts)
34. For a long time there was a lot of discussion here about random guns in shrubbery. The thought
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:34 PM
Sep 2017

seemed to be that children were in grave danger of finding these discarded guns and hurting themselves.

That's the reason a lot of our dear gungeoneers gave to say that gun safety HAD to be taught in schools.

So, you know, people really need to be careful about those shrubbery guns.

no_hypocrisy

(46,267 posts)
21. He didn't have the fortitude to remain alive to have contrition and the
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:31 PM
Sep 2017

ability to try to make retribution for his mistake.

no_hypocrisy

(46,267 posts)
24. Contrition in the form of wanting to live to
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:48 PM
Sep 2017

offer to help his victim's family and others. I've considered suicide in the past for transgressions and decided it wasn't helping anyone but myself with guilt versus contrition.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
25. That only sounds like you wanted him to suffer more, by living.
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:55 PM
Sep 2017

The family might feel differently, of course, but off the top of my head I can't see how his staying alive would help them.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,759 posts)
46. I agree that the post is nonsense
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 10:33 AM
Sep 2017

A person very close to me accidentally ran over and killed my brother while being reckless with a car. No gun was involved, and mostlikely no drugs or alcohol. He felt so bad that he ran from the scene, found an empty garage, and hung himself. He was an honorable person who couldn't live with what he did. Tragic, and a waste, but I can empathize with how he must have felt.

FakeNoose

(32,853 posts)
38. Anybody who brings a gun to a Saturday night social gathering
Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:17 PM
Sep 2017

... is going to the wrong kind of parties. I feel bad for the innocent victim and his family.

If a gun owner can't prevent accidents from happening, then he or she has no business owning a gun. No amount of remorse will bring this innocent man's life back. Guns should be locked up in a safe with a key that's also locked up in a different room. Ammunition should be locked up separately in a different room. There should be no possibility for an accident to ever happen. Anything else is negligence.



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