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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 08:20 AM Sep 2017

Trump Reportedly Asked Aides For 'Way Out' Of Campaign Pledge To End DACA

Source: Talking Points Memo




By CAITLIN MACNEAL Published SEPTEMBER 5, 2017 7:08 AM

As a deadline from Republican state attorneys general approached, President Donald Trump last week asked White House aides for a “way out” of his campaign pledge to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, the New York Times reported on Monday, citing two people familiar with the exchange.

Searching for a way to end DACA to satisfy his base while still ensuring that DREAMers would be protected, Trump and his aides reportedly landed on a proposal to end DACA with a six month delay. The postponed implementation would theoretically allow Congress to pass legislation restoring DACA’s policies.

Trump’s chief of staff, John Kelly, spoke with Republican lawmakers and devised the six month delay, three officials familiar with the situation told the New York Times. Kelly was also motivated to find a way to keep DACA following reports that DREAMers helped with Hurricane Harvey recovery, per the New York Times.

The President faced pressure from Attorney General Jeff Sessions and senior adviser Stephen Miller, both immigration hard-liners to end DACA, according to the New York Times and Buzzfeed News. Those who had advocated for maintaining DACA, like former chief of staff Reince Priebus, have left the administration, Buzzfeed News noted. Economic adviser Gary Cohn also urged Trump to keep DACA, the Times reported, but Cohn is not currently in the President’s good graces.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-asked-way-out-daca-pledge

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Trump Reportedly Asked Aides For 'Way Out' Of Campaign Pledge To End DACA (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
He could resign. Bleacher Creature Sep 2017 #1
second that onetexan Sep 2017 #20
What a feeble nitwit C_U_L8R Sep 2017 #2
he lies about everything, now he needs an excuse? nt Javaman Sep 2017 #3
But the majority of republicans want to keep DACA. Who exactly is his "base"? Mrs. Overall Sep 2017 #4
The angry bigots Blue_Adept Sep 2017 #6
Exactly. Mrs. Overall Sep 2017 #7
His "base" are the deplorables Hillary talked about. SergeStorms Sep 2017 #24
Wow. Turns out, immigration-policy is hard. DetlefK Sep 2017 #5
This would not surprise me to be a lie. Trump campaigned on ending this. rockfordfile Sep 2017 #8
I agree. This story is planted to make Trump look like he cares. yardwork Sep 2017 #25
There it is again!!! atreides1 Sep 2017 #9
All it would take is guts. But 45 is a coward in every way. sinkingfeeling Sep 2017 #10
nytimes: On DACA, President Trump Has No Easy Path riversedge Sep 2017 #11
Bullshit leak for any on the fence republicans . Lookie trump is really a conflicted guy with heart lunasun Sep 2017 #12
Mr Talk Tough on the campaign trail is scared of the political ramifications of this I think titaniumsalute Sep 2017 #13
Trumpus Pilate Zambero Sep 2017 #14
I said it was cowardly -- and there you have it. Despicable and cruel and cowardly. nt Hekate Sep 2017 #15
Weakness Bruce Fallsteen Sep 2017 #16
I really wish the NYT would quit printing this bullshit... Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #17
Maggie haberman just enjoys the access sharedvalues Sep 2017 #26
There is a way out. Resign. ProgressiveValue Sep 2017 #18
and sounds like what he ended up with is a confusing mish-mash, which imo is a good thing. elleng Sep 2017 #19
All he had to do is treat his campaign promises woofless Sep 2017 #21
Isn't Trump, like, the President? DeminPennswoods Sep 2017 #22
Coward... having your cake and eating it too keithbvadu2 Sep 2017 #23
Bullsh*t!! liberalmuse Sep 2017 #27
This is bullshit if what I heard on the radio (CNN & MSNBC) yesterday is correct... Native Sep 2017 #28
Mexico is paying for the wall so no need for any money from us Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #29
BShit- That Republican didn't have to do anything & at minimum-protections would remain the same! Sunlei Sep 2017 #30

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
2. What a feeble nitwit
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 08:28 AM
Sep 2017

No Trump, you don't get to have your 'I'm really not such a monster' PR push.
Your policy is... 'you've got 6 months to get out or we'll throw you out'.
The most heinous and unAmerican policy every forced on a people.
Just fuck you, Trump.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
24. His "base" are the deplorables Hillary talked about.
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 03:53 AM
Sep 2017

They're the racists, the xenophobes, the ultra-wealthy, evangelical "christians", and so forth. They comprise about 33% of the American people. So Trump's entire presidency is all about appeasing that 33% of the population. The other 66% of the country? They can go to hell. Trump knows his poll numbers will never get any higher than they are right now. He doesn't care. He never wanted the job in the first place. This was just his ultimate ego stroke, but through Russian interference, gerrymandering, and voter suppression, he mistakenly "won" the election. Now his first and only term is totally devoted to giving the far right-wing in America everything they've been salivating over for years. The rest of the country? It can come crumbling down to the ground. HE DOESN'T CARE!

His long term goal is starting a broadcasting company that serves those 33%. One that goes even farther to the right than FAUX News. A broadcasting system for the super-rich, evangelical "christians", and the mentally defective bigots that make up his "base". He envisions huge profits from catering to these vermin, and he's probably correct.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
5. Wow. Turns out, immigration-policy is hard.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 08:34 AM
Sep 2017

Just like health-care.
And financing the wall.
And, as he will soon find out, tax-reform.

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
8. This would not surprise me to be a lie. Trump campaigned on ending this.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 08:38 AM
Sep 2017

Trump is a un-American racist republican.

atreides1

(16,076 posts)
9. There it is again!!!
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 08:45 AM
Sep 2017

"The President faced pressure from Attorney General Jeff Sessions and senior adviser Stephen Miller, both immigration hard-liners to end DACA..."

Sessions and Miller are both white nationalists, and should be identified as such from now on!!!

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
11. nytimes: On DACA, President Trump Has No Easy Path
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 09:35 AM
Sep 2017

I think the story makes trump the victim of his own doing--yet also gives the feeling we are to feel sorry for trump!--being president is hard work!!




On DACA, President Trump Has No Easy Path


Sept 4, 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/us/president-trump-daca-dreamers.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Glenn Thrush, Maggie Haberman and Julie Hirschfeld Davis









President Trump during a group prayer in the Oval Office on Sunday. He has been wrestling with what to do about the Deferred Action for Child Arrivals program. Tom Brenner/The New York Times

WASHINGTON — For months, an anxious and uncertain President Trump was caught between opposing camps in the West Wing prodding him to either scrap or salvage an Obama-era program allowing undocumented immigrants brought to the country as minors to remain in the United States.

Last week, with a key court deadline looming for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, Mr. Trump, exasperated, asked his aides for “a way out” of a dilemma he created by promising to roll back the program as a presidential candidate, according to two people familiar with the exchange.

Mr. Trump’s chief of staff, John F. Kelly, who had wrestled with crafting a compromise in his previous job as the president’s homeland security secretary, began consulting with Republican lawmakers and staff members for a quick fix, according to three officials familiar with the situation. He finally arrived at an inelegant solution to an intractable problem: Delaying a decision on the final fate of about 800,000 “Dreamers” covered by President Barack Obama’s executive action for six months, and putting it on Congress to come up with a legislative solution to the problem.

.......................

The delay would buy the president some much-needed breathing room. But it is certain to displease nearly everyone else, especially as there is no guarantee that a squabbling Congress, which failed to address immigration under President Obama, will come up with a long-term solution.

“It’s not clear what delaying this for six months means,” said Mark Krikorian, an immigration hard-liner who runs the Center for Immigration Studies who has supported the president’s actions to curtail immigration..................................

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
13. Mr Talk Tough on the campaign trail is scared of the political ramifications of this I think
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 11:01 AM
Sep 2017

He knows it is hugely unpopular to end DACA. He has many in his own party AND the many ministers are coming out against this decision as well.

Stepping in turds as my grandpa used to say.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
14. Trumpus Pilate
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:06 PM
Sep 2017

Washing his little hands of the entire situation, having already given the base their "Barabbas" (aka Sheriff Joe). Just have good old boy Jeff Sessions deliver an impending DACA death knell announcement, but in manner that puts this tricky no-win monkey onto onto the back of a do-nothing Congress. No longer "owning" it. What courage and leadership!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
17. I really wish the NYT would quit printing this bullshit...
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 12:55 PM
Sep 2017

Last edited Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Every time Trump creates another Nuremberg Law, there's always a couple of "unnamed sources" who try to humanize the White House by floating the idea of how much Trump struggled with this or that decision, how Ivanka/Jared/Donnie Jr./Pence tried to talk him out of it or whatever...

These fucking people are EVIL and there is not, nor has there ever been some kind of compassionate 'counterweight' to Trump inside the Oval Office


sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
26. Maggie haberman just enjoys the access
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 07:35 AM
Sep 2017

Does she realize she's a tool of the administration that is hurting America by normalizing him?

elleng

(130,895 posts)
19. and sounds like what he ended up with is a confusing mish-mash, which imo is a good thing.
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:35 PM
Sep 2017

*“I do not favor punishing children, most of whom are now adults, for the actions of their parents,” Mr. Trump said in a written statement. “But we must also recognize that we are nation of opportunity because we are a nation of laws.”

The statement was released shortly after Mr. Trump, who had called the issue a personal dilemma, dispatched his attorney general to announce that the government will no longer accept new applications from undocumented immigrants to shield them from deportation under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, known as DACA.

Administration officials said the roughly 800,000 current beneficiaries of the program — brought to the United States illegally as children — will not be immediately affected by what they called an “orderly wind down” of former President Barack Obama’s policy.

“Only by the reliable enforcement of immigration law can we produce safe communities, a robust middle class, and economic fairness for all Americans,” Mr. Trump said, calling the DACA program an “amnesty-first approach.”'>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/us/politics/trump-daca-dreamers-immigration.html?

woofless

(2,670 posts)
21. All he had to do is treat his campaign promises
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:06 PM
Sep 2017

the same way he treats his promises to pay contractors. He has no problem going back on his word to those who actually do work for him.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
22. Isn't Trump, like, the President?
Tue Sep 5, 2017, 04:43 PM
Sep 2017

All he had to do was say he reconsidered and isn't ending the program.

OTOH, this action will mobilize Americans just like the travel/Muslim ban.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
27. Bullsh*t!!
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 08:12 AM
Sep 2017

I've seen a few articles trying to paint Trump as the innocent. Don't believe them. He is the one who pardoned Arpaio. He and the GOP are 100% responsible for this.

Native

(5,942 posts)
28. This is bullshit if what I heard on the radio (CNN & MSNBC) yesterday is correct...
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 08:51 AM
Sep 2017

it seems the Repukes are unsure of exactly what they have to pass to get Trump's signature - Sanders, when asked this question, said any bill they passed would have to cover full immigration reform, not just DACA. There is a Repuke sponsored bill ready to go that would give Dreamers permanent work status after 5 years of a clean record, but it is not expected to appease Trump. Bottom line - "full" immigration reform would include money for the wall.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
30. BShit- That Republican didn't have to do anything & at minimum-protections would remain the same!
Wed Sep 6, 2017, 01:40 PM
Sep 2017

but nooo, trumpie and his nazi Republican party-HAVE to torment, PUNISH and hurt 800,000 people!!

most who don't even remember their time in birth country.

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