Clinton: 'I was not as adept or as quick' at ways to reach voters
Source: The Hill
BY ALEX AARON - 09/19/17 07:59 AM EDT
Hillary Clinton on Monday night expressed regret she had not found better ways to communicate with voters during the 2016 campaign, as she kicked off her book tour before a packed house at the Warner Theater in Washington, D.C.
The 2016 Democratic nominee sat down with friend and former speechwriter Lissa Muscatine to discuss her new memoir "What Happened," a personal account of her loss to President Trump.
Clinton said her campaign team often focused on perfecting policy points and missing the bigger picture. And Clinton said she failed to make the necessary changes to reach voters. I was not as adept or as quick to try and figure what is a better way for me to communicate, she said.
You think youre running one kind of campaign and you realize that the press is not covering the policy youre putting out every day," Clinton continued. "Theyre covering an empty podium.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/351295-clinton-i-was-not-as-adept-or-as-quick-at-ways-to-reach-voters
Demit
(11,238 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)everywhere a BNH messageboard/listing/news search exists.
Demit
(11,238 posts)And I don't see what The Hill being someone's favorite media to tweet has to do with it, either.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)It's not new, but to some t is, LOL
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)FakeNoose
(32,854 posts)...she's still the MOST qualified presidential candidate we've ever had.
Personalities aside, I never doubted Hillary's ability to be an awesome president and leader.
Think of the male presidents in our history, they've all have deficiencies of one kind or another.
As far as I'm concerned Hillary doesn't need to criticize herself any more, considering what they have done to her.
Bengus81
(6,936 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)that 9/11 memorial day she campaigned for many hours, on her feet, personally meeting with families. a hot day, very sick, yet so much inner strength.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Unlike male candidates with things like a cancerous melanoma and hid it.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)problems Hillary mentioned in her book & interviews. That's related to D campaign communication "problems" to their voters & the public medias.
Republicans take full advantage of an opponent even if they're sick or hurt.
Ds campaign could have taken quite a bit of wind out of Rs sails by acknowledging her pneumonia. Not canceling the memorial time, let her spend the hours meeting with 9/11 families seated, shaded with better hydration. Not have to walk and wait for her car.
This presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton continues her 10 hour day even with pneumonia. Republican arrives late by golf cart, visits with no one- and leaves after an hour. That should have been the headlines, 9/11/2016
Eliot Rosewater
(31,131 posts)Paladin
(28,281 posts)End of story, no further explanations necessary.
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rocktivity
(44,583 posts)and should have hustled up the extra non-female votes that would have put her over by a cheatproof margin -- the exact same mistake she made with Obama.
rocktivity
StevieM
(10,500 posts)She did well enough to have the race won by a decisive margin without the Comey intervention. And she kept campaigning until the very end of the race. She didn't let up. It just wasn't enough.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Not.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)He sighed
He didn't embrace Bill Clinton
He embraced Bill Clinton too much
He shouldn't have picked Lieberman
He was cold and aloof
He didn't seem different enough from Bush
He was "too smart"
He had no personality
He wasn't a real progressive
He was boring
He wasn't a guy you wanted a beer with
He lost his home state
He was just a bad candidate
It was all bullshit then too, because the fix was in, just like in 2016.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Thanks.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Sometimes a candidate says it worst when he says nothing at all. Al Gore's endless sighing during the 2000 debate against George W. Bush sparked endless mockery, as did his decision to leave the podium and come within inches of Bush during a response. Four years later, debate organizers would amend the event's rules to avoid such an episode, stipulating: "Each candidate may move about in a predesignated area." But Gore is not the first candidate whose silence trumped his speech; in 1992, George H. W. Bush caught flak for checking his watch during a verbal spar with Bill Clinton and Ross Perot.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/benjamin-wallace-wells/hillary-clinton-after-the-clintonites
On the eve of the 2000 election, Bill Clinton lamented that Al Gore never called;
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/3/1465910/-Why-Al-Gore-Really-Lost-in-2000
Al Gore was and is a nice guy. Hes an accomplished environmental hero who should be honored across the party. However, as a Presidential aspirant, he did not help himself. He was a gaffe machine who shouldve known that his comments on his later-Webby-winning role in helping the bring about the internet wouldve been taken outta context or how the Love Story thing wouldve been spun. The media was hostile but Gore seemed to sit back and take it. Gore also ran mediocre ads.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2004/09/13/the-wilderness-campaign
Unlike Clinton, who could draw on a huge pool of friends for advice, Gore lacked the gift, or the patience, for showing gratitude, for keeping in close touch. Donna Brazile complained that she had never got so much as a thank-you note for her service in 2000, and many who had worked for Gore or who had given serious money to the campaign felt the same. He treated people poorly, Robert Bauer, one of Gores aides during the Florida battle, said. He was cold, aloof, condescending, ungrateful. There were legendary stories about how he treated people with a lack of gratitude. There is a strange character in Gore. . . . He is an isolated man.
That's a start.
There are also several DU threads addressing many of these issues if you want to check the pre-DU2 archives. Feel free to do the homework.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And no, this doesn't support this full list:
He didn't embrace Bill Clinton
He embraced Bill Clinton too much
He shouldn't have picked Lieberman
He was cold and aloof
He didn't seem different enough from Bush
He was "too smart"
He had no personality
He wasn't a real progressive
He was boring
He wasn't a guy you wanted a beer with
He lost his home state
He was just a bad candidate
And no, 2004 and 2016 is not in the wake of the election he lost, and hammering about why he didn't have a recount-proof lead in Florida.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)I gave you some sources, pay me if you want more of my time digging up 16 year old stuff.
The criticism of Gore (and Kerry also) as bad candidates has been going on for years. How someone whose been here since 2004 can ignore that is beyond me.
I'm also not here to justify the criticism of one candidate over the other. Both Al and Hill were fucking screwed and I have a right to still be pissed about both and not engage in excuses so as to downplay election fraud, and pretend it wasn't the real reason Gore and Clinton "lost".
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)The response of someone who can't back up their claims.
I don't recall any of the mass vilification of Gore for not getting a bigger lead as has been directed at HRC.
There would be plenty to find if there was.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)I submitted four sources, and that wasn't enough for you. You've got a lot of nerve that you think my life revolves around your sarcastic ass.
That's your problem. I'm not sure why you've chosen this tact. Both positions are wrong. Both were blamed for shit that is moot as they both won their respective elections.
Most of the DU archives from 2002 or so don't even exist. So you should be happy, you're safe from more sources you can smugly dismiss.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Just too bad these realizations came after she'll no longer be running for public office.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)In Racine, in Lancaster, in Macomb County.....add a few hundred here, a thousand there......
There is nothing she could have done, the fix was in.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)the more we see that it was microtargeted.
And Kushner and DT's own tech lead said that they were targeting the EC, not the popular vote.
"We played Moneyball, asking ourselves which states will get the best ROI for the electoral vote," Kushner says. "I asked, How can we get Trump's message to that consumer for the least amount of cost?"
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Unfortunately, lack of it doesn't seem to hold male politicians back at all.
It's referred to as proof of being "constant" and "ethical."
Justice
(7,188 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)She did well enough that the exit polls indicate that she was the preferred candidate on economic issues. Trump won based on the fake email scandal and nothing else.
Incidentally, if you read the whole article you will see that it is another journalistic disaster. The writer repeats the talking points about Hillary blaming her loss on a whole host of other people. It is a narrative that the media is determined to deliver. If she talks about what happened, including the parts that involved other people, there is no way to avoid mentioning things like the primary, the Russians and Comey. That opens the door to deliver the sound bite about "blaming others."
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)The D party and Ds in general, all of us need to keep supporting Hillary and blaming all those Republicans (some are criminals/treasonous Russian colluder assholes) for her.
SunSeeker
(51,786 posts)Baconator
(1,459 posts)stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)and choosing Tim Kaine as her VP certainly were major messaging/communication mistakes to grow Dem votes IMHO.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,352 posts)stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Such an easy target, even easier than Ryan, who Biden essentially laughed off the stage because he is so "bubble brained"
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)it's about choosing a nominee from between more than one option, and even Sanders' staff said that they knew it was over "weeks if not months" before June 6.
And FoxNews? There had not been Democratic Debate on that fetid sewer system in 12 years.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)I disagree completely. Many, many of us in Ca, especially we who were fighting to elect down ballot Democrats, felt that
cancelling the debate was detrimental to our struggle. I worked to defeat Darrell Issa who was reelected by only 1500 votes. The perspective here, "from the trenches" was that two hours of Democratic Debate (i.e.exposure) would have helped Doug Applegate win and Issa lose.
Think about how many hours America watched the endless Republican Debates, got brainwashed with the relentless repetition of
their hateful ideology. Two free hours of national exposure for Democrats turned down...that was just stupid.
2016 was not only about Clinton vs Bernie for our Party in Ca or in America. It was about electing Democrats period. Cancelling such a luxurious opportunity to speak "Democrat" to the whole Country for two hours was shooting a gift horse,no matter what station carried it.
Again just my opinion.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Is that Hillary realized too late she was being POORLY SERVED by people like "she who was FIRED but you cannot say her name without getting hidden."
dembotoz
(16,864 posts)And yes I supported, worked for and voted for Hrc
But it's late at night and the matches and gasoline are put away
So I will turn off the tablet and try to sleep...
JusticeForAll
(1,222 posts)Visiting your state rather than my state would have helped in the adept and quick areas.
dembotoz
(16,864 posts)Initech
(100,129 posts)It's kind of hard for us to reach an audience when we can't. We have got to take back the media.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Messages every day, asking for money but putting it in terms that made me want to send a few bucks. Always personal too, corretcly addressed to me and signed by Hillary. It was really impressive!
Oneironaut
(5,538 posts)Time to start preparing for 2018. None of this crap matters anymore.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)LonePirate
(13,437 posts)Then again, maybe that only works for male politicians.