Caucus Vote Counter Says Romney Mistakenly Given 20 Votes

[Newsjock]

Source: KCCI-TV

Caucus night was chaotic in many places, with hundreds of voters, candidates showing up and the throngs of media who followed. The world's eyes were on Iowa. But in the quiet town of Moulton, Appanoose County, a caucus of 50 people may just blow up the results.

Edward True, 28, of Moulton, said he helped count the votes and jotted the results down on a piece of paper to post to his Facebook page. He said when he checked to make sure the Republican Party of Iowa got the count right, he said he was shocked to find they hadn't.

... True said at his 53-person caucus at the Garrett Memorial Library, Romney received two votes. According to the Iowa Republican Party's website, True's precinct cast 22 votes for Romney.

"This is huge," True said. "It essentially changes who won."

Read more: http://www.kcci.com/news/30144582/detail.html

Source material here, including scan of piece of paper and affidavit from Edward True:
http://www.watchthevote2012.com/AffidavitTrue.htm

[SaintPete]

1. this should get very good

very quickly

[L. Coyote]

56. Here is the BradBlog story

By Brad Friedman on 1/5/2012 9:31pm http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9044
Paul Supporter Alleges Inaccurate GOP Results Mean Santorum, Not Romney, Winner of Iowa Caucus
Transparent count process may have revealed reporting error...

Thanks to the transparent, open counting process at Tuesday's night's Iowa GOP Caucuses, and a Ron Paul supporter who was paying close attention to the results, we may now be learning that Rick Santorum, not Mitt Romney, actually won

[roguevalley]

64. thank god for bradblog. :) This made my day.

[skinnydipinacid]

57. it shouldn't be hard to confirm this

I am a caucus chairman in Iowa and not only are the votes counted by the Secretary and witnessed by people such as the caucus reporter, representatives of whichever candidates' campaigns are present and sometimes even volunteers and the chairman/woman themselves. After all votes have been verified and counted they are then recorded on form a signed and dated w/time of vote by both the Secretary and Caucus Chairman. They are then turned into that county's headquarters.

This should be an issue that is both easily (and quickly) confirmed or denied between the headquarters and caucus secretary/chair.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

2. Too funny.

So, if true, he actually lost by 12 votes then. Or did he? *insert dramatic organ music here*

[rocktivity]

15. One ominous organ chord, coming right up!

http://www.rocktivity.com/audio/ominousOrganChord.wav


rocktivity

[Lone_Star_Dem]

21. Perfect!

Thank you!

[AlbertCat]

54. Let's not forget....

[PatrynXX]

37. huge news .....nah

Tiger's ex tearing down a $12 million mansion cause she decided she didn't like it is huge news. Changing a bloody tie from an 8 lost to a 12 loss makes about as much news George Bush did in recess appointments

[Lone_Star_Dem]

44. I said too funny, not huge.

No matter, according to the article in post #35 they've found a 21 point error in Romeny's favor.

A tragedy has been avoided!

[Kingofalldems]

3. This is HUGH!!

[L. Coyote]

22. Hugh is as Hugh does!

That pun never dies

[RandySF]

4. Counties have not all turned in certified results.

If I remember correctly.

[L. Coyote]

23. This was not an election, it was a party event run by a bunch of clowns

with another bunch of clowns for candidates



Rocktivity rocks

[goforit]

51. Great toon!! Reminds me of it's a "Mad Mad World"

And it is a Mad world

[LongTomH]

61. I love that toon!

The GOP slate this year is "The Insane Clown Posse"

[Survivoreesta]

32. The votes don't need to be certified>

But the candidates do!

[Skip Intro]

5. Not sure if that relates to this, but...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/100282549

[Dawson Leery]

8. The GOP power brokers are going to do anything and everything to

place this nomination into Romney's hands.

[rocktivity]

25. And how about this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=115378

[liberal N proud]

6. Mistakenly?

I have bridge for sale.

[jtuck004]

7. Please take this to the Supreme Court. It would make their heads explode from partisan thinking. /nt

[Bozita]

9. Fat Tony could tell ya it'd be a 5-4 vote for the guy with less votes

There's a precedent.

[pennylane100]

10. This is going to create a big pile of santorum.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

34. No chit...

...LOL

[OmahaBlueDog]

11. If they'd have only used electronic voting machines!

[PatrynXX]

38. what did they have wheels?

let in about 500 robots to caucus for something....

[Gringostan]

12. And the dual for votes is on

And the dual for votes is on

[TBF]

13. The voting is even worse that the debates ... nt

[SmittynMo]

14. Is no one held accountable anymore?

How in the hell can you get this wrong? All measures should be in place to avoid this!!! Did anyone double check anything before telling the world? Where is the accountability? Un frickin beleivable. To me, it really don't matter as to the outcome. My biggest concern is the accountability. Especially with something this small. Gee, can't wait til November.

[PatrynXX]

39. well they didn't to that in Wisconsin , go figure some nut would do it in IA

o_O cept you can't blame it on Excel or Access

[jimlup]

17. I'll bet it isn't the only anomally that night...

Rove and crew at work for sure. And once you cross the line it becomes standard operating procedure. These guys don't think twice about it.

[muriel_volestrangler]

18. Delegates are unpledged; Romney, Santorum and Paul 'have' 20 each anyway

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/IA-R

[arcane1]

19. Reason number 1,586 why Iwoa is bullshit

Not the state itself, but the importance of their silly primary theater.

[PatrynXX]

40. Republican Iowans...

big difference. We did set the tone for Obama.. (I live in Iowa...) if I was half nuts I'd run that alert button but I'm not , cause I'm fully nuts..

[RoccoR5955]

20. Not another RepubliCON who can't count?!?!?!

They can't even count, and they wanna run the freakin' country?!?!?!
I don't think so!

[James48]

24. Wait for it.......

Romney said he was going to win. He paid top dollar to win, no matter what that took.

[McCamy Taylor]

26. So Santorum won Iowa?

[cstanleytech]

27. Didnt you know? Santorum always comes out in the end.

[Bozita]

30. DUzy, for sure!

Not a pretty one, but a DUzy nonetheless.

[PatrynXX]

41. fortunately I missed the scat namecalling all these years

but I don't think anyone thought Rick the scat would get this far... either way, Rick won the same place Mike did. What does that say? Did mike huckabee win? o_O Nope, we got some old dude and his milf. and one porn star who looked just like her. o_O So if Rick really was a number 1 by a mere 12 votes. snore... bye bye dude... and the sweaters.


only wool sweaters please. anything else.. is fuel for the fire..

[slay]

43. rofl

yeah this deserves a DUzy for sure!

[Tx4obama]

28. Looks like it now, BUT the results will not be certified until sometime in February, SO ....

there is still time for MORE mistakes to be found.

[Historic NY]

29. Voter fraud, voter fraud...........cheater....

[PatrynXX]

42. :P

actually whether your joking or not , this would be closer to election fraud. Since the 2 votes were counted. 20 people didn't come in and vote out of thin air. thereby it's election fraud. and it became election fraud if this really is true and the Republicans are resisting...

albeit why? Lutherans probably won't vote for a catholic (depending on the synod) why would they vote for a Catholic if the pope is the anti christ? (at least they believe that) I would consider myself WELS.... and I still don't believe that X_X

[Historic NY]

58. The point was they would be pointing fingers all around if this was a Democrat....

controlled caucus. They either can't count or there is something more nefarious going on. They claim fraud all around except when its them.

[alfredo]

31. Borowitz on the outcome of the Iowa caucus

BorowitzReport Andy Borowitz

If only 8 more people liked me than Rick Santorum I would put a gun in my mouth.

[zentrum]

33. If true.....

[James48]

35. Hahahah! Now FAUX NEWS SAYS....

Now FAUX News says that Iowa Republican leaders say "Yes, there was a 20 vote error in favor of Santorium but there was another 21 vote error in favor of Romney, so Romney still wins."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/05/santorum-vote-count-error-in-iowa-is-no-big-deal/

You can't make this stuff up!!!

Romney paid for his win, fair and square, and (R) party leaders are going to see that he gets it, no matter how many new votes they have to create out of thin air.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

36. Ha! How convenient!

[jakeXT]

63. K&r

[Firebrand Gary]

45. Does this surprise anyone? Really?

Not me. Romney will do whatever it takes and that means BREAK every rule of ethics along the way.

[JHB]

46. Does anyone have a stash of Sore/Loserman signs? n/t

[AtomicKitten]

47. Nobody puts Lil Ricky in the corner.

[SpiralHawk]

48. Republicons not only cheat Americans, they cheat other Republicons

with their corrupt election horseshit. Ptoooey.

[Botany]

49. Karl Rove said on tuesday night (?) that some "undervote"

would be found that would put Mitt over the top in Iowa. "They"
don't even try to hide it anymore manipulating the vote and
election is SOP for the repugs.

[goforit]

50. Evidence Evidence Evidence!!!..., But where are the corrections

Where is the enforcement?
Just like all the white collar crimes by bankers/Gov't/Corporations
Where is there ANY ENFORCEMENT????

[ehrnst]

52. And Santorum surges from behind!! (nt)

[Yavin4]

53. Why Can't Republicans Count?

From Florida in 2000 to Ohio in 2004 to Wisc. in 2010, somehow they always seem to miscount votes.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

55. Would this affect the delegate count at the convention?

I think Romney got 13 delegates, Santorum got 12.

Would this 20-vote swing at that particular caucus site change the outcome?

[truthisfreedom]

60. We all know what this is. It's almost not worth discussing anymore.

The pukes are all about manipulation. They have no qualms about breaking the "rules" because the rules aren't written for them. They're "above" the rules. That's exactly how they run their party and please their contributors and cronies and make sure that the vast wealth of America is gravitationally dumped directly into their own pockets.

[gopiscrap]

62. MSM Lameos

won't bother to even report this...this just goes to show the culture of respect or rather lack of respect for the sanctity of voting among gop asshats!

[TriplD]

65. It looks like the votes were misreported in at least one other county

In the "Comments" linked at the bottom of the story:

Sheila Hoch · Chariton, Iowa
Will make Iowa look foolish? Well then maybe people had better be more careful in the future about the numbers they post. This wasn't the only county with discrepancies. The discrepancy from my county won't affect who wins, but still needs to be addressed.

//

Angela Hagerty · Iowa State University
Sheila, Was their a discrepancy between what your precinct reported--and what the Central Republican Office had in their final vote totals?
Reply · 3 ·
· 16 hours ago
Sheila Hoch · Chariton, Iowa
Angela Hagerty I dont have all the precinct totals but did photograph the final tally sheet for the county. We had 58 votes for Ron Paul while the official report said 48. Also had 10 more votes for Gingrich than were officially reported.
Reply · 3 ·
· 7 hours ago

//

Kim Yoblonski
Sheila Hoch You did report it, then? I guess I misunderstood.
Reply ·
· 6 hours ago
Sheila Hoch · Chariton, Iowa
Kim Yoblonski Yes. Has been reported.
Reply · 2 ·
· 6 hours ago
Pat Ross
Sheila, I hope you pursue those discrepancies as Edward True has. The more we allow the bar to be moved the smaller our voice becomes to those in charge, regardless of the level of the office county, state or federal and the less creditability we have.
Reply ·
· about an hour ago

[the Weird Liberal]

66. EXTREMELY interesting...

wouldn't be surprised if the Iowa GOP stole the election for Romney.
In fact, I'd be surprised if they DIDN'T.
Put NOTHING past them. They will go to any length, take any measure, say or do ANYTHING to win. ANYTHING.

[Octafish]

67. So this means Willard didn't win in a landslide?

What's the Homeland coming to, when a cheating greedhead dimwit can't steal an election?

[Dont call me Shirley]

68. Yeah, when KKKarl Rove announces the results you gotta know something's fishy