Appeals Court OKs Warrantless Wiretapping
Source: Wired
The federal government may spy on Americans communications without warrants and without fear of being sued, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday in a decision reversing the first and only case that successfully challenged President George W. Bushs once-secret Terrorist Surveillance Program.
This case effectively brings to an end the plaintiffs ongoing attempts to hold the executive branch responsible for intercepting telephone conversations without judicial authorization, a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals wrote.
The case concerned a lower court decision in which two American attorneys who were working with the now-defunct al-Haramain Islamic Foundation were awarded more than $20,000 each in damages and their lawyers $2.5 million in legal fees after a tortured legal battle where they proved they were spied on without warrants.
They sued under domestic spying laws Congress adopted in the wake of President Richard M. Nixons Watergate scandal. The government appealed their victory, and the appeals court Tuesday dismissed the suit and the damages.
Read more: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/08/appeals-court-oks-wiretapping/
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(4,769 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Estamos tan jodidos.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)and if they're doing this, we are totally screwed.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)We shall have to see what Obama tells us he will do to rectify this in his Second Administration.
SURELY...He HEARS our CRIES!
We have to get together for coffee one day when I'm down in the big city. I hope all is well with you!
KoKo
(84,711 posts)So much has gone beyond since then. I think of those days as the HOPE...for something better where we might have had chance to stop Bush.
But...it was not to be...and Edwards imploded after that along with his "Two America's Message."
Still ...it's good to see Edwards Message Morph into 1% and OCCUPY. Even though Edwards was a dud with terrible personal problems......there's something still there out of the "message" that was created for him.
We have to hope.....
Good to see you.
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)Hope you can you can hold your breath for at least 8 years (Obama's 4 more, plus Jeb BushCo or another Re-Thug's first term).
The US Constitution is going down like the
or perhaps I missed your
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)*who sent his Justice Dept. to the Supreme Court to argue FOR warrantless GPS surveillance and strip searches for any arrestee?
*who has publicly defended and joked about TSA groping?
*whose administration remained silent about a federally coordinated, nationwide, violent crackdown on OWS?
*who signed his approval of indefinite detention?
*who oversees "kill lists"/targeted assassination of US citizens?
*under whose administration the NSA is building a massive spy center for warrantless access to the email and phone calls of all Americans?
*who has approved or overseen proliferation of drones in American skies, grants for provision of military drones to police departments, and general militarization of our police forces?
*who signed the internet-censoring ACTA and then tried to hide it from the American press by claiming "national security"?
*who supported Joe Lieberman's CISPA-like cybercensorship bill even before the mild privacy-protecting measures touted by the press were added to it?
*whose administration is quietly moving forward with plans for an internet ID?
.......That President?
I'm sure he'll get right on it.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...holy fuck!
kath
(10,565 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)This is nauseating, frightening, disgusting.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)So the 2nd is still there.
The 3rd might still exist, but only on a technicality. You can't be forced to quarter troops in your home if we aren't at war, but it looks like we're going to be in a war for the next few decades, so I dunno how you'd check.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)be worried about the 1st and 4th Amendments.
24601
(3,967 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)quickly realize that you cannot defend the 1st and 4th Amendments with 18th century, 19th century technologies like rifles or even 20th century technologies like AK 47s.
Whether or not the Second Amendment is inviolate is no longer the issue. We are way beyond it.
Drones, electronic surveillance, mind control, these are the authoritarian weapons of the future. Guns are not that relevant.
malthaussen
(17,237 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Well at least we know it's official now. The Truth is always a good thing to know.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,382 posts)20 grand for the plaintiffs, 2.5 million for the lawyers? Way better than the usual 30-50% split.
Regardless of the financials, this is a big hit against the 4th amendment. One more slap after the "Patriot" act.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)..I guess it really is "just a piece of goddamned paper" after all....
What a sad, sad day for America...
Hydra
(14,459 posts)You were always watched before, but now it's "legal" despite it being "unconstitutional."
Let's see...torture, domestic spying, strip searches, "show me your papers," assassination all legal now. Did we miss anything that the "Reds" or the Nazis were doing?
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Is it serious yet?