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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:28 AM Aug 2012

Fire Breaks Out on 88th Floor of 1 WTC

Last edited Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: NBC

Nearly 90 firefighters are battling a fire on the 88th floor of 1 World Trade Center, fire officials said.

The fire was reported to the FDNY just before 7:45 a.m. Wednesday and is ongoing, officials said. The size of the blaze wasn't known.

No one was inside the building when the flames erupted.

It wasn't immediately clear what caused the blaze.

Read more: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Fire-World-Trade-Center-Tower-Police-Firefighters-165405566.html



Now contained (or possibly even a false alarm)...
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Fire Breaks Out on 88th Floor of 1 WTC (Original Post) Bosonic Aug 2012 OP
Somewhere, Alex Jones Lawlbringer Aug 2012 #1
The Professional Conspiracy PIMP... SkyDaddy7 Aug 2012 #22
Well, he was right about fluoride in water lowering IQ's... Ter Aug 2012 #39
Mercola? Seriously? Thor_MN Aug 2012 #48
Just the first link I could find Ter Aug 2012 #53
Joseph Mercola: proof advanced degrees CAN be found in Wheaties boxes jmowreader Aug 2012 #49
This guy was right about floridation too. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #50
Ahahahahaaaa! Codeine Aug 2012 #56
WAIT! Sorry for being dumb here but I thought they hadn't built anything on the site yet and I Justice wanted Aug 2012 #2
Not completely finished yet Bosonic Aug 2012 #3
Thanks. Justice wanted Aug 2012 #11
Here's the information page madaboutharry Aug 2012 #4
Thanks. Justice wanted Aug 2012 #10
this is the building that is under construction mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2012 #6
Thanks. Justice wanted Aug 2012 #9
Just one small correction Equate Aug 2012 #16
We should see it collapse in its own footprint in about an hour... rfranklin Aug 2012 #5
You got that right, rfranklin! At free fall speed, through the path of most reisstance, too! Th1onein Aug 2012 #7
Thanks for saying what was my first thought. canoeist52 Aug 2012 #14
Bush: "I first saw the fire! Then I was first told about it!... KansDem Aug 2012 #20
He said he saw the first plane hit Politicalboi Aug 2012 #29
Actually no one saw it lunatica Aug 2012 #30
A french film crew saw it. AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #35
I can't remember either because they showed it for weeks lunatica Aug 2012 #37
I find this extremely troubling... KansDem Aug 2012 #36
The truth is probably... jberryhill Aug 2012 #51
over a decade and the search for truthy moves onward! snooper2 Aug 2012 #21
+1 sarcasmo Aug 2012 #24
If they burn on multiple floors, uncontrolled without sprinklers for hours, yeah. AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #25
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's inane statement on the View Equate Aug 2012 #28
It was the first time it brought down a skyscraper Ter Aug 2012 #40
It was also the first time an aircraft of that size Equate Aug 2012 #41
No aircraft hit WTC7 Ter Aug 2012 #46
And WTC7 took several hours to fall Equate Aug 2012 #47
Not really Ter Aug 2012 #52
Fair enough Equate Aug 2012 #54
Hours? bongbong Aug 2012 #31
That was in reference to WTC7. AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #33
+1 Ezlivin Aug 2012 #26
What I was thinking. When is it going to collapse?... truth2power Aug 2012 #32
I like it more when they magically leap a few city blocks, pirouette, and lay down sideways. boppers Aug 2012 #38
I like it when they magically collapse at freefall speed... rfranklin Aug 2012 #42
Gravity sucks. boppers Aug 2012 #55
Oh, can you PLEASE take that bullshit over to the children's table? nt Codeine Aug 2012 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author rfranklin Aug 2012 #58
"Size of the blaze wasn't known" but it requires "nearly 90 firefighters"... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #8
FDNY doesn't mess around Equate Aug 2012 #15
If you say so...I honestly have no idea but I thought that number was a little high... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #18
Just what I was thinking. smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #43
Turned out to be a false alarm Equate Aug 2012 #45
False Alarm brooklynite Aug 2012 #12
"fire contained" same website as OP used irisblue Aug 2012 #13
If city planners would take into account the original uses of that site Berlum Aug 2012 #17
These things happen Renew Deal Aug 2012 #19
Does Silverstein still own that building? sarcasmo Aug 2012 #23
Be careful firefighters Politicalboi Aug 2012 #27
I think it was folly to build another tall one on that site wordpix Aug 2012 #34
Article updated. possible false alarm TriplD Aug 2012 #44

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
1. Somewhere, Alex Jones
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:33 AM
Aug 2012

is waking up with the biggest erection.


But seriously, where's the damn sprinkler system? Makes me worried about the building I'm in.

Thankfully no one was in there, and I hope the firefighters come out okay after cleaning up this mess.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
22. The Professional Conspiracy PIMP...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:24 AM
Aug 2012

Alex Jones? If so, why would he care about this fire? Let me guess it was cover for the NWO to take over the world again?

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
53. Just the first link I could find
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:39 AM
Aug 2012

It was all over the mainstream news last week, including right here in LBR.

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
2. WAIT! Sorry for being dumb here but I thought they hadn't built anything on the site yet and I
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:38 AM
Aug 2012

thought it was suppose to be a memorial site..


I am keeping all the NYFD in my thoughts this morning.

 

Equate

(256 posts)
16. Just one small correction
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:31 AM
Aug 2012

it's FDNY. If you ever went into a fire station, which BTW, are called houses, and called them NYFD, they would set you straight PDQ.
As far as I know, they are the only Fire Service that has FD before the initials of their city.

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
5. We should see it collapse in its own footprint in about an hour...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:47 AM
Aug 2012

Isn't that what happens when skyscrapers catch on fire?

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
7. You got that right, rfranklin! At free fall speed, through the path of most reisstance, too!
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:56 AM
Aug 2012

You don't want to light a cigarette, turn an appliance on, or anything that generates the least bit of heat, in those steel framed skyscrapers nowadays! I remember one incident, in 2001, when THREE of them collapsed into their own footprints in one day!

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
20. Bush: "I first saw the fire! Then I was first told about it!...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:46 AM
Aug 2012

...then I first saw it, then I was first told about it!"

And the media sits idly by...

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
29. He said he saw the first plane hit
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:21 PM
Aug 2012

Even though at the time, he was on his way in his limo to the school. But hey, do facts really matter with 9/11? He said that 3 months after 9/11, and he said it later again. Just let Obama get away with saying shit like that when facts tell us different. Oh but that's "crazy truther" talk.

After this weeks shooting, even though they weren't Muslim, 9/11 seemed to be this assholes revenge. If I were Muslim, I would want to clear our name, and make these threats go away. I would involve the help of other countries since the US can't stop lying about 9/11. They should take it to the point of running a remote controlled plane into a created building like the WTC just to see what would really happen.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
35. A french film crew saw it.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:31 PM
Aug 2012

But that video didn't surface for days. So, no, he couldn't have directly seen it.

I personally, after the endless tape loops of the impacts, cannot with any certainty say if I saw the second impact live, or if I was catching a replay when we piled into the conference room.

Neither is anyone else that was in the room with me.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
37. I can't remember either because they showed it for weeks
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 05:17 PM
Aug 2012

The images are forever seared on our minds. All of them. It took me years to be able to talk about it without crying. Now, at times I stil cry when I talk about it. I'm choking up right now.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
36. I find this extremely troubling...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:41 PM
Aug 2012

Bush tells audience he saw first plane hit WTC on TV--



Bush tell National Geographic he was told about first plane hitting WTC (0'48&quot --



Yet, where's the media to find out which story is the truth?
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
51. The truth is probably...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:18 AM
Aug 2012

He was fried that morning with the hair of the dog that bit him the night before, and the whole day is kind of a blur.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
25. If they burn on multiple floors, uncontrolled without sprinklers for hours, yeah.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:48 PM
Aug 2012

Actually they do.

All the metal components of the Windsor Tower in Madrid collapsed to the ground in a couple hours, all that was left was the concrete-pillar construction components of the building, as the fire didn't do much to concrete.

It was a hybrid building, part concrete, part steel-frame. All the steel frame stuff collapsed under it's own weight in the heat.

 

Equate

(256 posts)
28. I remember Rosie O'Donnell's inane statement on the View
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:03 PM
Aug 2012

when she said, and I quote, "I do believe that it's the first time in history that fire has melted steel".
When I heard that, I lost all hope for her.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
40. It was the first time it brought down a skyscraper
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:48 PM
Aug 2012

In fact, it's only happened three times in world history, all on the same day.

 

Equate

(256 posts)
41. It was also the first time an aircraft of that size
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:53 PM
Aug 2012

with that much force and that much highly flammable jet fuel hit a skyscraper.
There was no govt. conspiracy involved like Rosie claimed. It was a foreign terrorist attack carried out by Al Qaeda.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
46. No aircraft hit WTC7
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:49 PM
Aug 2012

If Osama bin Laden was involved, why was he murdered and not allowed to surrender? They never wanted to capture him alive.

 

Equate

(256 posts)
47. And WTC7 took several hours to fall
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:49 PM
Aug 2012

Are you one of these 9/11 truthers? If so, then we're done here.
I've argued with enough of those nuts, don't want to do it again.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
52. Not really
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:37 AM
Aug 2012

But I think there's more to WTC7, and I don't believe a plane hit the Pentagon. However, I don't think the government did it either, so I'm not a truther by definition.

 

Equate

(256 posts)
54. Fair enough
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:03 AM
Aug 2012

but how do you explain the video of the plane hitting the Pentagon? What about the people on that plane, I'm sure they would love to hear that their plane didn't hit the Pentagon, oh wait, I forgot, they can't, their dead.

There only conspiracy here is that foreign terrorists planned and carried out the worse attack on U.S. soil since Pearl Harbor.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
31. Hours?
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:17 PM
Aug 2012

> uncontrolled without sprinklers for hours,

WTC #1 fell less than an hour after the plane crashed into it. WTC #2 fell 1 hour & 42 minutes after impact.

Are you using the word "hours" to mean "less than an hour", or "one hour and change"?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
33. That was in reference to WTC7.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:10 PM
Aug 2012

WTC 1 and 2 were hit with aircraft travelling at 500+ mph, in excess of ~300,000lbs, full of fuel, and lit, again, multiple floors on fire across 1 acre areas, imparting ~7.4 million foot-tons of torque on each of the buildings at impact.

WTC7 was hit with burning debris from tower 1, some structural damage, but nothing like WTC 1 and 2 experienced, and simultaneously lost all water pressure as the collapse of 1 & 2 cut the local water mains. WTC7 failed entirely due to fire, and it took several hours longer to do so, than the steel framed components of the Windsor Tower fire.

The issues with WTC1 & 2 are not directly comparable to 7, because your starting point with the fires is already so far behind the curve, with structural members already removed by the physical impacts. Typically the 'hurf durf fire steel building' references are directed at WTC7, and this is what I was responding to. Towers 1 & 2 initated progressive collapse at the points they were physically impacted by aircraft for a reason. Had there ONLY been widespread fires in towers 1 & 2, they would have stood much longer, like WTC 7 did.

I'm glad this is just a big stupid fucking joke to you.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
32. What I was thinking. When is it going to collapse?...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:08 PM
Aug 2012

You have a lot of courage for saying it, though. The disinformation artists will be along shortly.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
38. I like it more when they magically leap a few city blocks, pirouette, and lay down sideways.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:39 PM
Aug 2012

Gravity is so boring and predictable.

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
42. I like it when they magically collapse at freefall speed...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:09 PM
Aug 2012

as if the girders not exposed to high temps had been somehow weakened by a mystical force.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
55. Gravity sucks.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:40 PM
Aug 2012

Acceleration, more so.

It's not mystical to somebody who understands high-school physics.

Response to Codeine (Reply #57)

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
8. "Size of the blaze wasn't known" but it requires "nearly 90 firefighters"...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:09 AM
Aug 2012

...to this no-nothing that sounds like alot of fire-fighters for a "small fire"...

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
18. If you say so...I honestly have no idea but I thought that number was a little high...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:55 AM
Aug 2012

...and I can see the increased sense of urgency to get this dealt with quickly based on its location and recent history...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
43. Just what I was thinking.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:23 PM
Aug 2012

Sounds like a pretty big deal to require nearly 90 firefighters for a fire on one floor of an unoccupied building.

brooklynite

(94,513 posts)
12. False Alarm
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:16 AM
Aug 2012

NY1: A reported fire at One World Trade Center this morning has been investigated with fire crews giving an all clear.

irisblue

(32,969 posts)
13. "fire contained" same website as OP used
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:17 AM
Aug 2012

I will never be able to read those words , fire, WTC again w/o that gut kick twist. If I'm, living so far away feel ill, how must that be hitting the emotions of the new yorkers? huge vibes for the firefighters and new yorkers who need and anyone who would need them

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
17. If city planners would take into account the original uses of that site
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:47 AM
Aug 2012

-- and I do mean the Original Uses (pre-imperialist invasion) -- they would have another think coming.

Those who willfully ignore history tend to reap a Kickass Fiery WhirlWind of KaRmA.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
19. These things happen
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:57 AM
Aug 2012

I can think of at least two times I've seen this happen in construction areas in NYC. Once in a 1st floor and once on the higher floors. In the second case, I think it was a pretty big fire and it delayed the buildings opening.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
27. Be careful firefighters
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:59 PM
Aug 2012

Tall buildings in NY tend to bend and collapse due to fire. 9/11, still a joke even 10 years later.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
34. I think it was folly to build another tall one on that site
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:30 PM
Aug 2012

It will forever be a terror target. Should have built a park instead, planted trees and had a memorial site.

TriplD

(176 posts)
44. Article updated. possible false alarm
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:39 PM
Aug 2012

The FDNY said responding firefighters encountered workers welding, which was causing the smoke visible from outside the building.

There were conflicting reports from the Fire Department and the Port Authority about whether there had been a fire.

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