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demmiblue

(39,240 posts)
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:24 AM Oct 2017

Fox & Friends guest blames CNN for mass shootings

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by muriel_volestrangler (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Think Progress

A forensic psychiatrist told Fox News on Tuesday morning that CNN was to blame for mass shootings like what transpired in Las Vegas.

“I think that CNN’s going to have to answer how they demonize gun enthusiasts and how CNN actually contributes to mass shooting,” Michael Welner said. “And I think that they do.”

Welner appeared on Fox & Friends to try to answer the question as to why Stephen Paddock opened fire on a Las Vegas concert Sunday night. Offering his perspective that Paddock did not seem to fit the profile of many other mass shooters, he concluded that he must have had a cause, and that cause must have been guns themselves.

“Absolutely, people who are gun enthusiasts and who are populists or nationalists in this country are dehumanized. They’re demonized,” Welner said, agreeing with the completely unfounded assumption that Paddock perceived the attendees of a country music festival as being gun-toting Trump supporters. “His mind-set is that they deserve to die.”

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-cnn-mass-shootings-1ad50b45ba2c/



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Fox & Friends guest blames CNN for mass shootings (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2017 OP
Dr. Thredson, I presume? n/m bagelsforbreakfast Oct 2017 #1
So...uh...the gun nut was shooting supposed gun nuts for being gun nuts underpants Oct 2017 #2
Then the shooter realized he himself was a gun nut . . . so he shot himself. tclambert Oct 2017 #21
Just another crazy Pox contributor with insane conspiracy theory BS. democratisphere Oct 2017 #3
Just as soon as Fox News admits that demonizing Muslims causes terrorist attacks... ExciteBike66 Oct 2017 #4
What the hell? montana_hazeleyes Oct 2017 #5
Its sad that the people who are FOX AND FRIENDS don't have yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #6
Now that is some tortured logic. Saviolo Oct 2017 #7
People who claim that "white nationalism" is a benign and acceptable form of belief.... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2017 #14
Welner is chasing squirrels inside his head until he goes cross eyed IronLionZion Oct 2017 #8
[CNN] "demonizes gun enthusiasts and contributes to mass shooting." I've heard that crud right here. Hoyt Oct 2017 #9
Sounds like maybe that's a special kind of stupid which proliferates in certain circles Major Nikon Oct 2017 #16
Because...goodness. Let's not demonize people who feel they have a need forgotmylogin Oct 2017 #18
When did we start calling them "gun enthusiasts"? Grins Oct 2017 #10
It's like being a "poison enthusiast". forgotmylogin Oct 2017 #19
I kept telling you anti-gunners that you should love them nuts packman Oct 2017 #11
That's one hell of a keychain. Saviolo Oct 2017 #22
Nonsence. It's Obama's fault. Grins Oct 2017 #12
He was blamed within minutes: Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #15
I'm glad, I think, somebody watches that channel so I don't have to, pangaia Oct 2017 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author turbinetree Oct 2017 #17
sounds like blaming the BBC and other news organs for Hitler rurallib Oct 2017 #20
Locking - this is opinion, not news muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #23
 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
1. Dr. Thredson, I presume? n/m
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:27 AM
Oct 2017

underpants

(194,915 posts)
2. So...uh...the gun nut was shooting supposed gun nuts for being gun nuts
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:27 AM
Oct 2017

Dr. Welner is a nut.

tclambert

(11,187 posts)
21. Then the shooter realized he himself was a gun nut . . . so he shot himself.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:32 PM
Oct 2017

Thereby illustrating how it takes a gun nut to stop a gun nut.

(Hey, this logic stuff is fun.)

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
3. Just another crazy Pox contributor with insane conspiracy theory BS.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:31 AM
Oct 2017

ExciteBike66

(2,700 posts)
4. Just as soon as Fox News admits that demonizing Muslims causes terrorist attacks...
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:31 AM
Oct 2017

"“I think that CNN’s going to have to answer how they demonize gun enthusiasts and how CNN actually contributes to mass shooting,” Michael Welner said. “And I think that they do.” "

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
5. What the hell?
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:33 AM
Oct 2017

What a bunch of convoluted Bullshit!

yuiyoshida

(44,964 posts)
6. Its sad that the people who are FOX AND FRIENDS don't have
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:34 AM
Oct 2017

a single brain cell they can claim as an intelligent life form.

Saviolo

(3,321 posts)
7. Now that is some tortured logic.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:36 AM
Oct 2017

That word salad is barely coherent.

Also, "Nationalism" is not the same as "Patriotism" which seems to escape just about everyone on the right who's bending themselves into pretzels to excuse and empower white nationalists and normalize them as "populists."

Do you want nazis? 'Cause that's how you get nazis.

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,409 posts)
14. People who claim that "white nationalism" is a benign and acceptable form of belief....
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:03 AM
Oct 2017

.....should do themselves a favor and take out the "-ism" and wonder how exactly that sounds and if that can actually be defended in good faith.

IronLionZion

(50,820 posts)
8. Welner is chasing squirrels inside his head until he goes cross eyed
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:40 AM
Oct 2017

Trying to follow their logic could cause headaches, dizziness, shortness of breath, seek medical attention if you have been watching Fox News.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. [CNN] "demonizes gun enthusiasts and contributes to mass shooting." I've heard that crud right here.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:46 AM
Oct 2017

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
16. Sounds like maybe that's a special kind of stupid which proliferates in certain circles
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:24 AM
Oct 2017

Whenever you hear the same stupid shit repeated as if it's an original thought, chances are it isn't.

forgotmylogin

(7,942 posts)
18. Because...goodness. Let's not demonize people who feel they have a need
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:57 AM
Oct 2017

to amass enough firepower to take out 59 people and to injure half a thousand more in three minutes.

Grins

(9,245 posts)
10. When did we start calling them "gun enthusiasts"?
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:54 AM
Oct 2017

And this guy is nuts. He needs a psychiatrist.

forgotmylogin

(7,942 posts)
19. It's like being a "poison enthusiast".
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:58 AM
Oct 2017
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
11. I kept telling you anti-gunners that you should love them nuts
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 09:55 AM
Oct 2017

and hold them close to your liberal bosoms. All that anger against them using guns to shoot up people makes them feel their penis' really are small driving them to show that they have the real power.

I am going to hug a gun owner today and tell him how much I love him and his 3 doz. guns and bedroom full of ammo.

Saviolo

(3,321 posts)
22. That's one hell of a keychain.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 01:18 PM
Oct 2017

How does he fit that in his pocket?

Grins

(9,245 posts)
12. Nonsence. It's Obama's fault.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:02 AM
Oct 2017

Isn't it always....?

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
15. He was blamed within minutes:
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:13 AM
Oct 2017

These are country-music fans and police being shot. Obama’s and Blm’s favorite targets.

33 posted on 10/2/2017, 3:15:03 AM by Vision Thing (You see the depths of our hearts, and You love us the same...)


Obama soros black ops against country-music fans.

58 posted on 10/2/2017, 3:23:45 AM by Vision Thing (You see the depths of our hearts, and You love us the same...)


pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. I'm glad, I think, somebody watches that channel so I don't have to,
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 10:02 AM
Oct 2017

Not that I ever turn on the TV, anyway.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

rurallib

(64,554 posts)
20. sounds like blaming the BBC and other news organs for Hitler
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:36 AM
Oct 2017

muriel_volestrangler

(105,562 posts)
23. Locking - this is opinion, not news
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 03:41 PM
Oct 2017

and opinion of an idiot Fox found to waste everyone's time, so not important news of national interest. Please repost in GD. Thanks.

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