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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:29 PM Aug 2012

Coloradoans likely to vote on ‘fetal personhood’ for a third time in November

Source: Raw Story

Coloradoans likely to vote on ‘fetal personhood’ for a third time in November
By Eric W. Dolan
Wednesday, August 8, 2012 18:04 EDT



Personhood Colorado has announced it collected 112,121 signatures for a proposed anti-abortion amendment to the state’s constitution. If 86,105 of those signatures are valid, the proposed amendment will be placed on the Colorado ballot for the third time in four years.

“Once again, we are amazed at the tenacity of our nearly fifteen hundred volunteers,” said Rosalinda Lozano of Rachel’s Vineyard, one of the sponsors of the proposed amendment. “We had seven fewer weeks to petition due to another failed lawsuit from Planned Parenthood, yet we are turning in over thirty thousand signatures more than in 2010.”

The ballot measure would define a human being as “a member of the species homo sapiens at any stage of development.” The proposed amendment is meant to set up a legal challenge to Roe v. Wade, by completely prohibiting a woman from terminating her pregnancy, even in cases of incest or rape.

A similar constitutional amendment was defeated by Colorado voters in 2008 and again 2010. Critics of the previous amendments claimed that it would do more than just outlaw abortion. They said it would also affect common birth control methods, the treatment of ectopic pregnancy, in vitro fertilization treatment, and stem cell research.


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/08/coloradoans-likely-to-vote-on-fetal-personhood-for-a-third-time-in-november/

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Coloradoans likely to vote on ‘fetal personhood’ for a third time in November (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2012 OP
I am so goddamned fucking sick of this goddamned fucking shit. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #1
All men opposed to abortion should never get one. Botany Aug 2012 #2
+1 Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Aug 2012 #26
Here in California, xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #3
Can fetuses vote? lame54 Aug 2012 #4
maybe someone should start a meme that 4 in 5 fetus's born to single mothers azurnoir Aug 2012 #5
Now there's a thought! Good one, indeed. It'd be bound to work. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2012 #20
The best part is I'm betting it's true azurnoir Aug 2012 #24
My ectopic "person" could never have been born HockeyMom Aug 2012 #6
or in the terms of these nutjobs it is a crime scene. grantcart Aug 2012 #7
I'd like to see states pass laws saying the same ballot measure can't be voted on again for 3 years davidpdx Aug 2012 #8
I've voted for the same damn amendment in '08 and '10 and it's back again. Panasonic Aug 2012 #15
It's frustrating for sure davidpdx Aug 2012 #18
++++1! CrispyQ Aug 2012 #27
Change even one word and it's a different measure... Thor_MN Aug 2012 #17
That's true, the loopholes that would be put in would likely be big enough to drive a tank davidpdx Aug 2012 #19
I think abortion should be legal until the "person" is about, well... smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #9
If there'd ever be a case -> for <- abortion, he'd be the first exhibit. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2012 #21
Because it's not a democracy until they get their way! tanyev Aug 2012 #10
k&r to get on greatest page for wider exposure. uppityperson Aug 2012 #11
I think it's time to bring George Carlin from the dead: sakabatou Aug 2012 #12
*sigh* Those pro-lifers don't get it. We said NO twice before. Panasonic Aug 2012 #13
I bet he supports war and the death penalty. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #14
If at first you don't succeed, use the same shit to rally your base to the polls again. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #16
Damn I wish Focus on the Family would get the hell out of Colorado Springs. Drahthaardogs Aug 2012 #22
It's working against them, now. sofa king Aug 2012 #23
Joe Coors must be aiming for the independents... blaze Aug 2012 #25

Botany

(70,504 posts)
2. All men opposed to abortion should never get one.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:34 PM
Aug 2012

"they" are against abortion but they are against birth control, health care,
education, and helping out people in general ...... when you are a fetus they
are all there but once you are born you are on your own.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
3. Here in California,
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:37 PM
Aug 2012

we had to put up w/ 'parental notification' as a constitutional amendment. It fined and imprisoned doctors if they did not notify parents of a minor seeking a termination. It was defeated 3 times in 5 years, each time by a larger majority. They tried again in 2010 and couldn't get enough signatures to turn the measure into the SoS.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. maybe someone should start a meme that 4 in 5 fetus's born to single mothers
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 06:49 PM
Aug 2012

will grow up to be Democrats , that'll stop 'em if nothing else does

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
6. My ectopic "person" could never have been born
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:11 PM
Aug 2012

from my fallopian tube. Dead "baby". Dead woman. Never conceived, or born, younger sibling.

WHO has a "right to life"? Me? Younger sibling? Or a doomed embyro in a fallopian tube?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. I'd like to see states pass laws saying the same ballot measure can't be voted on again for 3 years
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:20 PM
Aug 2012

if it is defeated. These people believe they can dupe the voters if they just keep putting the measure on the ballot.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
15. I've voted for the same damn amendment in '08 and '10 and it's back again.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:18 PM
Aug 2012

If anything at all, that petition should be banned from consideration for at least 10 years. Any attempts to go-around that ban will increase the ban to another 10 years, effectively banning pro-lifers from fucking with other people's lives.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
18. It's frustrating for sure
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:01 AM
Aug 2012

Similar stuff has happened in Oregon, but not nearly as bad as that. Maybe we keep our crazies in check better then you guys do.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
17. Change even one word and it's a different measure...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:48 PM
Aug 2012

I can't imagine trying to get people to agree that it is substantially the same measure and should not be allowed.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
19. That's true, the loopholes that would be put in would likely be big enough to drive a tank
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:02 AM
Aug 2012

through them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. I think abortion should be legal until the "person" is about, well...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 07:30 PM
Aug 2012

about - how old is that guy in the photo?

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
13. *sigh* Those pro-lifers don't get it. We said NO twice before.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 08:15 PM
Aug 2012

While I'm voting FUCK YES on Amendment 64 (make pot legal), That personhood amendment will be voted out.

Any more attempts to put it in again by the election should be banned from petitioning and held in prison for wasting Colorado's time and money on an useless amendment that will never pass.

Any pro-lifers should be paying the State $5 million to have the petition EVEN considered (before rejecting) and keeping the money.

But first, we must remove Gessler from SoS, and we can't remove him until '14, I think. He replaced a very good SoS who has kept integrity on the election side. Gessler is already busy trying to disenfranchise the voters, but the courts are kicking his ass right now.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
16. If at first you don't succeed, use the same shit to rally your base to the polls again.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 09:40 PM
Aug 2012

Sadly, the people this is aimed at don't get that they're being played. They don't expect it to pass, it's just to get the people most likely to vote against a Democrat in office to the polls.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
22. Damn I wish Focus on the Family would get the hell out of Colorado Springs.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:54 AM
Aug 2012

It was always a different city, not really "Colorado", but these whackjobs have to leave. They are setting policy for the whole state. Focus on the Family and Douglas Bruce = two worst things that ever happened to Colorado.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
23. It's working against them, now.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:06 AM
Aug 2012

The demographics have changed, and I would hazard the guess that they have changed faster than anyone thought because the people who shambled to the polls to oppose it have died from Republican causes.

And yes, I think there is a lot of irony in that, because if those people had voted just once in their own best interests instead of telling people they don't know what they can do with their own internal plumbing, they would still be an important political lobby today.

Instead, they are old, sick, dying, and being told to go out and vote to raise their own taxes.

Spike it for us, Coloradans!

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