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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:09 PM Oct 2017

Losses at Trump's Scottish resorts doubled last year

Source: Associated Press, via the Charlotte Observer

Losses at Trump's Scottish resorts doubled last year
By BERNARD CONDON AP Business Writer

October 07, 2017 12:30 PM

NEW YORK

Donald Trump boasts of making great deals, but a financial report filed with the British government shows he has lost millions of dollars for three years running on a couple of his more recent big investments: his Scottish golf resorts.

A report from Britain's Companies House released late Friday shows losses last year at the two resorts more than doubled to 17.6 million pounds ($23 million). Revenue also fell sharply.

In the report, Trump's company attributed the results partly to having shut down its Turnberry resort for half the year while building a new course there and fixing up an old one.

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/national-business/article177618226.html



Losses at Trump's Scottish resorts doubled last year as revenue fell sharply. Nice work by @AP spotting this filing.




"I don't have a scooby" is now my favorite expression. I don't have a scooby why, exactly.


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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
4. It's Cockney rhyming slang for "clue." They get into that later in the thread. NT
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:21 PM
Oct 2017
"But it was just a guess. I don't actually have a scooby," the employee added, using an expression that means, "I don't have a clue."


groundloop

(11,519 posts)
3. Oh, but 45* has divested himself of his business interests so this is of no concern ...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:16 PM
Oct 2017

Oh, wait.....

NEVER MIND.

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
5. A fitting punishment for a resort that ruined neighboring farmers' water supplies,
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:32 PM
Oct 2017

apparently in order to pressure them into selling their land.

Next stop: lenders and partners will be left holding the bag. The quintessential Trump scam.

keithbvadu2

(36,804 posts)
7. No sweat! He'll just have the Secret Service (taxpayers) rent more golf carts.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:40 PM
Oct 2017

No sweat! He'll just have the Secret Service (taxpayers) rent more golf carts.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
9. They really hate him over there and have been letting him know
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 05:03 PM
Oct 2017

it in some very clever ways. Samantha Bee showed their tactics on her show a while ago. One guy would make static electricity and touch 45's hair so it stuck straight up at photo shoots.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
10. Oh, you mean the Scottish golf courses that
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 05:43 PM
Oct 2017

fucked up many regular Scottish peoples lives and lands? I say good he deserves a loss.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
12. Can anyone figure out what losses are and whether he is making it up through things like
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 06:23 PM
Oct 2017

Foreigners staying at the dc hotel and all the money he is making the secret service spend on his own crap .

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
13. Couldn't happen to a better crook.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 11:12 PM
Oct 2017

He will blame the UK Labour Party, EU/UK taxes, or Obama, or Hillary, or........(fill in the blank).

He'll have a shit fit when he goes there and sees fewer pictures of him on the walls. Some poor schmuck will be fired.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
14. Trump Is Pouring Millions Into Money-Losing Scottish Golf Course
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:41 AM
Oct 2017

Hat tip, David Fahrenthold: https://twitter.com/fahrenthold

Bloomberg goes to @realDonaldTrump's Scottish courses, digs deeper into those U.K. Filings to see how much cash he's sunk in them m.



Donald Trump is pouring millions into his money-losing Scottish golf course https://bloom.bg/2xrzskF



Trump Is Pouring Millions Into Money-Losing Scottish Golf Course
By Stephanie Baker


--> U.K. reporting rules permit rare look at private businesses
--> The president’s diviseness may be keeping some people away

From the 300-plus crystal chandeliers to the gold-plated taps in the bathrooms, Donald Trump has transformed a hotel overlooking one of the world’s most legendary golf courses into an eponymous glittering palace. Members gathering for their tee times on a recent cloudy Wednesday say they love many of the changes at the Trump Turnberry resort in Scotland, but they doubt the president will ever make his money back. ... “It’s a personal investment in aggrandizement,” says Mervyn Caplan, a member for the past 17 years, sipping tea in the clubhouse. “He’ll never get a return on the capital he’s invested.”

So far, that looks like a sound prediction. Financial reports made public in the U.K. over the weekend show Trump last year faced mounting losses at Turnberry and his other Scottish golf resort, forcing him to inject more cash to cover shortfalls. Losses at Trump Turnberry, his biggest investment outside of the U.S., more than doubled to 17.6 million pounds ($23 million) in 2016, while revenue fell 21 percent to 9 million pounds. Trump’s other course north of Aberdeen also posted widening losses of 1.4 million pounds, an increase of 28 percent, while revenue fell 12 percent.

Beyond last year’s losses, however, the latest disclosures show Trump has now poured a combined 152 million pounds, or nearly $200 million, into the ventures without either one turning a profit under his ownership. The results, among the few made public anywhere in the world for Trump’s private businesses, may add to questions about whether his brand of divisive politics is starting to take some of the luster off of his businesses.
....

Earlier this year, golf writer James Dodson, co-author of Arnold Palmer’s autobiography, said Eric Trump told him in 2014 that the family had “all the funding we need out of Russia” for golf. “We don’t rely on American banks,” Dodson quoted him as saying, in response to a question prompted by the fact that many banks were steering clear of golf. “We’ve got some guys that really, really love golf, and they’re really invested in our programs.” ... Eric Trump later tweeted a denial, calling the author’s comments “completely fabricated.”

Denzil_DC

(7,241 posts)
15. I know some keen golfers here in Scotland who have enough spare money to golf at the Trump courses.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 10:14 AM
Oct 2017

They choose not to, which is pleasing. One gave me a a Trump International Golf Links golfball he'd found on some course, which is a trophy on our mantelpiece.

That course near Aberdeen hasn't taken off, and Trump has never ploughed the money into it or the neighbouring major housing development (let alone his projected second course in the area) which was essential to making it a financial success. He bought off the local press by employing the wife of the editor of the regional paper. The promises of investment and jobs haven't materialized.

He tried to blame the development of an experimental offshore windfarm a mile or so off the coast of his course for his refusal to invest, but around 2008-2009, before the windfarm was on the horizon, he blamed the 2008 crash for his lack of funds, so that's a red herring.

Turnberry's a different story. Money has been ploughed into it, but he scuppered its chances of hosting The Open because of his comments and moves on US immigration etc., so that's one revenue stream gone. The course has since been trying to play down his involvement, in its internal decor if nothing else.

The weak pound may help his enterprises by attracting overseas visitors, not least from the US, but in a country so rich with good golf courses, there's plenty of competition.

If they end up being untenable, he'll just walk away and leave it to the bankruptcy courts to sort out, as he has done so often in the past.

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