Interior Sec. Zinke on Confederate monument removal: Native Indians will want Union statues remove

[Archae]

Source: Raw Story

In a recent Breitbart interview, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said that if the country begins to remove Confederate monuments, soon, Native Americans will want the statues of anti-indigenous Union generals removed too — but he didn’t use the term “Native Americans.”

“Where do you start and where do you stop?” Zinke asked his Breitbart interviewer. “It’s a slippery slope. If you’re a native Indian, I can tell you, you’re not very happy about the history of General Sherman or perhaps President Grant.”

The argument, New York Magazine notes, is a novel twist on President Donald Trump’s “slippery slope” logic that posits the removal of Confederate monuments will lead to the removal of other monuments, such as those dedicated to past presidents.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/interior-sec-zinke-on-confederate-monument-removal-native-indians-will-want-union-statues-removed-next/

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Another racist pig in Trump's circle.

[madaboutharry]

1. This guy Zinke is a true deplorable.

[cos dem]

2. Fine remove them all. Most statues are kind of stupid anyway.

Here in Colorado Springs we have a statue in the middle of a busy intersection. It causes it to be one of the most dangerous intersections in town. But everyone throws a fit if there's talk about moving it to the park RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROAD! Melt the stupid thing for all I care.

[dhill926]

3. Fuck this asshole...

it's like a moron apocalypse.

[Purveyor]

4. Hell, might just as well go all Isis and let there be no statues... nt

[JoeOtterbein]

5. Yes, remove the statues and write their histories in stone so their evil will be known forever.

[djg21]

6. State Capitol statue of Civil War Union general vandalized

ALBANY -- State employees found a message in red spray paint on the statue of famous Civil War Union Gen. Philip Sheridan Tuesday morning. Written on the base of the statue in front of the state Capitol was "F--- Colonization, no borders, no nations".

http://wnyt.com/news/statue-vandalized-in-front-of-state-capitol-philip-sheridan/4630532/

While Sheridan was perhaps a Civil War hero, he engaged in a campaign of genocide against Native Americans, termed “total war.”

General Philip Sheridan played a decisive role in the army's long campaign against the native peoples of the plains, forcing them onto reservations with the tactics of total war.

Sheridan was born in Albany, New York, in 1831, but grew up in Ohio. He attended West Point and, after a year's suspension for assaulting a fellow cadet with a bayonet, graduated near the bottom of his class in 1853.

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After the war, Sheridan was first given command over Texas and Louisiana, where his support for Mexican Republicans helped speed the collapse of Maximillian's regime and where his harsh treatment of former Confederates led to charges of "absolute tyranny." Within six months he was transferred to the Department of the Missouri, where he immediately shaped a battle plan to crush Indian resistance on the southern plains.

Following the tactics he had employed in Virginia, Sheridan sought to strike directly at the material basis of the Plains Indian nations. He believed -- correctly, it turned out -- that attacking the Indians' in their encampments during the winter would give him the element of surprise and take advantage of the scarce forage available for Indian mounts. He was unconcerned about the likelihood of high casualties among noncombatants, once remarking that "If a village is attacked and women and children killed, the responsibility is not with the soldiers but with the people whose crimes necessitated the attack."

The first demonstration of this strategy came in 1868, when three columns of troops under Sheridan's command converged on what is now northwestern Oklahoma to force the Kiowa, Comanche, Arapaho and Cheyenne onto their reservations. The key engagement in this successful campaign was George Armstrong Custer's surprise attack on Black Kettle's encampment along the Washita River, an attack that came at dawn after a forced march through a snowstorm. Many historians now regard this victory as a massacre, since Black Kettle was a peaceful chief whose encampment was on reservation soil, but for Sheridan the attack served its purpose, helping to persuade other bands to give up their traditional way of life and move onto the reservations.

https://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/people/s_z/sheridan.htm

[L. Coyote]

7. Slippery slope: Remove statues of treason weasels and next thing you know, rape and genocide

will no longer by admired! That is NOT a problem.

[SCantiGOP]

8. Next thing you know

They will take down the Walt and Mickey statue at Disney World.

[L. Coyote]

10. Now I'm confused.

Which one is the rapist?

[Philistein]

9. Probably not.

Check out the Little Bighorn battlefield monument. Originally, it was purely to glorify Custer, but the Indian nations gradually transformed it into a site that presents their side of the story and makes you think about what happened.

[HAB911]

11. This seems to be a logical fallacy

Seems to me to be absurd on many levels

He states:
Confederates are to Union soldiers
what
Union soldiers are to Native Americans

On the one hand,
Traitorous seditionists are not equal to conquering christian supremacists

I'm going with straw man: A fallacious argument often seen in polemical debate is the straw man logical fallacy. A straw man argument attempts to refute a given proposition by showing that a slightly different or inaccurate form of the proposition (the "straw man&quot has an absurd, unpleasant, or ridiculous consequence, relying on the audience failing to notice that the argument does not actually apply to the original proposition.



Your mileage may vary, like maybe argumentum ad absurdum

[malthaussen]

12. While the idea is not without merit...

... as Archae points out above, the cases are dissimilar. Although we could have lots of fun arguing whether genocide is a worse crime than treason.

Statues, however, are usually erected to people who advanced the goals of a nation, and not on the basis of how nice a guy one was. I doubt many other countries in the world have several statues of their enemies.

-- Mal