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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:03 AM Aug 2012

Romney on not releasing more tax returns: ‘I’m not a business’

Source: Washington Post

When pressed on why he’s not releasing more tax returns in an interview with Bloomberg Businessweek, Mitt Romney justified it by saying: “I’m not a business.”

Bloomberg asked Romney whether, if he was investing in a company, he would want to see more than two years of financial reports, likening that process to the American people electing a president. But Romney suggested the standards aren’t the same for people and businesses.

“I’m not a business,” he said. “We have a process in this country, which was established by law, which provides for the transparency which candidates are required to meet. I have met with that requirement with full financial ­disclosure of all my investments, but in addition have provided and will provide a full two years of tax returns.”

This is the candidate who, almost exactly one year ago, got into a somewhat-heated exchange with a heckler in Iowa in which Romney made that case that “corporations are people” — that is, what happens to corporations affects the people who work for them.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/romney-on-not-releasing-more-tax-returns-im-not-a-business/2012/08/09/18e2d062-e225-11e1-98e7-89d659f9c106_blog.html



Here is the latest Romney dodge as to why he is not releasing his tax returns, which is particularly noteworthy since he once vigorously asserted that "corporations are people."

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Romney on not releasing more tax returns: ‘I’m not a business’ (Original Post) TomCADem Aug 2012 OP
But I thought he said that "Corporatations are people, my friend!" rocktivity Aug 2012 #1
Yep, lol - the jokes have begun writing themselves. closeupready Aug 2012 #17
He's making me dizzy! rocktivity Aug 2012 #20
wow!! I haven't heard that song in ages! SemperEadem Aug 2012 #26
I thought wingnuts wanted to run the gub'mint 'like it's a business' Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2012 #62
The loser speaks: he corrected himself to say "human beings, my friend" sad sally Aug 2012 #66
that is awesome n/t Enrique Aug 2012 #2
LOL. bemildred Aug 2012 #3
Yeah, you are, Mitt. A criminal enterprise. Scuba Aug 2012 #4
not a corporation, not a person grantcart Aug 2012 #5
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated... FailureToCommunicate Aug 2012 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author yonder Aug 2012 #65
He's a people my friend tularetom Aug 2012 #6
People are corporations, my friend. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2012 #7
His HORSE is a business though. . .right? . .n/t annabanana Aug 2012 #8
I... am not... a business.. I am a human being or a horse, whichever gets the bigger deduction nt progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #46
That's why he skipped the Olympic dressage competition, to not distract Rafalca JHB Aug 2012 #61
Mitty McShifty, always stepping in his own bullshit BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #9
See, this is why I love America Canadian 2 Aug 2012 #10
You win this thread. Brigid Aug 2012 #13
+1 GrantDem Aug 2012 #33
"I'm not a human" he said, and then JBoy Aug 2012 #11
Corporations are people my friend Iliyah Aug 2012 #12
So Mitt is not a person? BSUbluNorange Aug 2012 #14
This proves Mitt is a Robot. sarcasmo Aug 2012 #15
Romney Talks The Talk DallasNE Aug 2012 #16
But in America, corporations are people, Mitt!!! nt msanthrope Aug 2012 #18
lol. Wut? Liberal Veteran Aug 2012 #19
I am choking on the irony! Atman Aug 2012 #21
What does that even MEAN??? Pirate Smile Aug 2012 #22
He's not a corporation or a person, so I guess he really is an animatronic robot. Confirmed. tridim Aug 2012 #23
Um, no... you don't get to walk this one back, mittiot SemperEadem Aug 2012 #24
"transparency"??? beac Aug 2012 #25
He's not a business but he is a robot Happyhippychick Aug 2012 #27
have provided and will provide a full two years of tax returns.” - is gramatically a mess karynnj Aug 2012 #28
Asshole! SoapBox Aug 2012 #29
Romney is a weasel. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #30
In snakeskin loafers. closeupready Aug 2012 #50
And a sharkskin suit!!! RKP5637 Aug 2012 #52
Still undecided Roy Rolling Aug 2012 #31
Just keeps getting better. Old and In the Way Aug 2012 #32
My Mother used to say ... bayareaboy Aug 2012 #34
Mitt sure likes to talk a lot about what he is not. sofa king Aug 2012 #35
I'll be darned...I never saw this. SoapBox Aug 2012 #43
He's making himself more unelectable by the minute! Amazing! truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #37
Well then he is hiding something....period. Evasporque Aug 2012 #38
Oh is that so, Willard? Blue Owl Aug 2012 #39
they bet on the least damaging choice... Evasporque Aug 2012 #40
I somehow don't think this will fly. Kerosene, meet match. Just gets better and better. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #41
lost mittens plays yet another game of "political twister". Javaman Aug 2012 #42
" have provided and will provide a full two years of tax returns.” Have or will? Which is it mitt?? progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #44
Try diagramming that sentence ThoughtCriminal Aug 2012 #59
really, romney, what's the difference? barbtries Aug 2012 #45
Romney demands that businesses public release tax records!!! n/t Blue Meany Aug 2012 #47
This guy is getting desperate. The problem with this argument is that IF Romney is like Justice wanted Aug 2012 #48
One grows weary of this loathsome prevaricating Republican Berlum Aug 2012 #49
All the warmth and charm of a corporate quanset hut libodem Aug 2012 #51
Corporations are people, but he himself is not a corporation. Peaceful Protester Aug 2012 #53
Yes you are, MittWitt. You're a real operator. bucolic_frolic Aug 2012 #54
I actually laughed out loud when I saw this headline at work underpants Aug 2012 #55
Huh what?? and-justice-for-all Aug 2012 #56
Businesses are people, friend. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2012 #57
He won't stop talking about it. He keeps the issue in the news every single day. randome Aug 2012 #58
Weasel words. Nothing instills trust and confidence like tax lawyer-speak. JHB Aug 2012 #60
Romney is right. He is not a business. mgarr Aug 2012 #63
as usual his responce makes no sense. nt Javaman Aug 2012 #64
Why can't he even get the 2nd year's out - what's the hold up?!! tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #67
Corporations are People but I'm Not a Business! Romney for President 2012 arely staircase Aug 2012 #68

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
1. But I thought he said that "Corporatations are people, my friend!"
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:05 AM
Aug 2012

Not that he hasn't made it clear that he's not a person...


rocktivity

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
62. I thought wingnuts wanted to run the gub'mint 'like it's a business'
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 06:32 AM
Aug 2012

In which case, Willard should show his damn returns.

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
66. The loser speaks: he corrected himself to say "human beings, my friend"
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:04 PM
Aug 2012
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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #36)

JHB

(37,160 posts)
61. That's why he skipped the Olympic dressage competition, to not distract Rafalca
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 06:31 AM
Aug 2012

Any time he's around Rafalca gets all lusty for that exemplary horse's ass.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
13. You win this thread.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:24 AM
Aug 2012

We Americans really keep you Canuks entertained, especially in election years, don't we?

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. Corporations are people my friend
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:22 AM
Aug 2012

kicking your ass right now huh Mittens.

Release the Gawd Damn taxes asshole.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
16. Romney Talks The Talk
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:31 AM
Aug 2012

But if you want to be able to see whether he walks the walk one has to be able to review the record and his tax returns are a big part of the record. At this point it is almost a given that he has not paid any meaningful income taxes for a number of years and he will at all costs hide this part of his record.

I wonder if anybody in the media has attempted to contact this man as he could well be the source behind the story about Romney not paying taxes for all of those years. He certainly fits the profile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._Gay

tridim

(45,358 posts)
23. He's not a corporation or a person, so I guess he really is an animatronic robot. Confirmed.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:44 AM
Aug 2012

It all makes sense now!

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
24. Um, no... you don't get to walk this one back, mittiot
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:44 AM
Aug 2012

you said, and I quote "corporations are people, my friend..."

I'm sure it could be argued that you aren't a person, but a robot, but that's non sequitur right now to the fact that you have already stated the above. To use the transitive property, if corporations are people, and you are presumably a person, then you are a business.

Sucks to be you, huh?

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
28. have provided and will provide a full two years of tax returns.” - is gramatically a mess
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:52 AM
Aug 2012

He can say he provided one year and will provide another -- which sounds less than "two full years". Not to mention, how do you release only part of a year. "full" is there just to maximize what he did.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
32. Just keeps getting better.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:08 PM
Aug 2012

I hope Mitt likes marinating in his financial exposure. The real story of Bain Capital is slowly cooking the Mittster.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
34. My Mother used to say ...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:17 PM
Aug 2012

That boy likes to hear his voice a lot.

And I guess his Mother didn't tell him about talking like a fool.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
35. Mitt sure likes to talk a lot about what he is not.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:17 PM
Aug 2012

He seems reticent, however, to talk about what he is.

Some days I wonder if Mitt's nominating process actually worked like the one depicted starting at the 10:00 mark in this excellent film:



(Graphic politics warning. Also, Danny Trejo sighting @ 2:43)

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
43. I'll be darned...I never saw this.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:54 PM
Aug 2012

Bugs! I hate Bugs!

No wait...I hate Mittens! Mittens = BUGS!

ECKKK!

truthisfreedom

(23,147 posts)
37. He's making himself more unelectable by the minute! Amazing!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:34 PM
Aug 2012

mittens is absolutely determined to guarantee his own demise.

Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
40. they bet on the least damaging choice...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:38 PM
Aug 2012

Not releasing will loose some voters (probably enough to lose) but releasing them will probably ensure defeat.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
42. lost mittens plays yet another game of "political twister".
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:50 PM
Aug 2012

He's like a bizarre new super hero: Inconsistent man.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
44. " have provided and will provide a full two years of tax returns.” Have or will? Which is it mitt??
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:56 PM
Aug 2012

I love that bullshit doublespeak by Romney. "I have and WILL" You either HAVE or you WILL, it's not both!!!

His 2010 is not complete, AND his 2011 is 'being worked on!" now. Meaning, they're trying to clean it up. The media should ALSO be very very suspicious about his 2011 returns, as he's working on them now. He'd be willing to make a huge tax payment now, if it meant that his forms look almost normal.

So next time I'm asked to file a tax return, as a person, can I use the "I'm not a business" line instead? Sorry.. taxes are for the LITTLE people.

ETA- I always enjoy the Bloomberg articles, because the majority of commenters don't seem like deranged rageaholics or paid shills.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
59. Try diagramming that sentence
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:52 PM
Aug 2012

I'm not sure it can be done in two dimensions or even three. It time travels retroactively into some sort of mobius strip.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
45. really, romney, what's the difference?
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:58 PM
Aug 2012

where were the reporters who could have followed up with that? since corporations are people what fucking difference does it make whether you're a business?

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
48. This guy is getting desperate. The problem with this argument is that IF Romney is like
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:00 PM
Aug 2012

Most rich men--ie Koch Brothers, Adleson etc he probably has made himself into an LLC of some sort so when Bain lost money He could say it effected him as well and the Money he gained at Bain that went into special accounts so it isn't his money--but it is.


Also doesn't his backing of Corporations are People just nullify his argument.?

libodem

(19,288 posts)
51. All the warmth and charm of a corporate quanset hut
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:00 PM
Aug 2012

Shell of a building facade, surrounding a stack of dollars equals freedom of speech from a human.

underpants

(182,802 posts)
55. I actually laughed out loud when I saw this headline at work
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:20 PM
Aug 2012

it's not just the campaign that is a mess - this guy is clearly "not ready for prime time"

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
58. He won't stop talking about it. He keeps the issue in the news every single day.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 06:59 PM
Aug 2012

He's beyond stupid. We are in uncharted territory.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
60. Weasel words. Nothing instills trust and confidence like tax lawyer-speak.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 06:23 AM
Aug 2012

Just what we want in a president, right? A guy who STARTS OFF sounding like a Defendant in a corruption scandal.

mgarr

(41 posts)
63. Romney is right. He is not a business.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 09:55 AM
Aug 2012

Romney said he was not a business. I agree. If he is not a business, it follows that corporations are not people. Citizens United and the conservative majority of the Supreme Court to the contrary, people are not corporations and corporations are not people. Any other take on this is nonsensical.

Reelect President Obama. Retake the House. Secure a 60 vote majority in the Senate (ignoring the fact that a supermajority of 60 votes is now "required" only because of Republican abuse of the filibuster rule.)

And then DEMAND Congress pass a constitutional amendment to reverse Citizens United (and at same time, demand Congress pass a law requiring federal funding of all political campaigns.)

The best-kept secret in Washington is that voters still have the ultimate power. So get mad. Then get out and vote. Every general election; every primary; every local election. Vote. (and make sure everyone you know votes.) Start the process of reform by making it politically dangerous for Congress to be bought and sold.

We will then have answered the question. Corporations are NOT people.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
67. Why can't he even get the 2nd year's out - what's the hold up?!!
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:25 PM
Aug 2012

My guess is that even this most recent year's return could have been done with his crack accounting team in a week's time. If Romney can't even figure out his own taxes in a reasonable amount of time, how on earth is he going to be able to tackle real problems and budgets in the White House.

What's the hold up Mitt? What are you hiding about this past year that you don't want America to know about until the absolute last second?

I can only imagine

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
68. Corporations are People but I'm Not a Business! Romney for President 2012
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:53 PM
Aug 2012

This political ad paid for by the truely clueless and ultimately doomed to defeat and humiliation.

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