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demmiblue

(36,850 posts)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:27 AM Oct 2017

Bernie Sanders coming to Detroit to deliver opening-night speech at Women's Convention

Source: The Detroit Free Press

The Women's Convention will feel the Bern later this month, when Bernie Sanders visits Detroit to address more than 3,000 women and progressive activists as they get ready for the 2018 midterm elections.

The senator from Vermont, an independent who challenged Hillary Clinton for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination, is to address the crowd the evening of Oct. 27, on the first day of a three-day convention organized by the Women's March.

...

He was the right choice to be a headliner for the first national Women's Convention in 40 years, said Tamika Mallory, co-founder of Women's March, because Sanders knows how to mobilize a new generation of activists.

"I think that right now, no one can deny that Bernie Sanders is probably one of the most powerful U.S. senators ... on progressive issues, women’s issues, mobilizing millennials. He is really in line with the principles of the Women's March," Mallory told the Free Press in an exclusive interview Wednesday night.

Read more: http://www.freep.com/story/news/2017/10/12/bernie-sanders-speech-womens-convention/756532001/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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Bernie Sanders coming to Detroit to deliver opening-night speech at Women's Convention (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2017 OP
Senator Sanders is a tireless warrior. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #1
Kamala Harris would have been a better choice keen observer Oct 2017 #2
+1000 (nt) ehrnst Oct 2017 #3
How 1950s... DURHAM D Oct 2017 #4
I think that, in the 21st century, a women's organization should be able to decide for themselves Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #6
Of course you do Tom. nt DURHAM D Oct 2017 #7
Now this is a legitimate +1000! KPN Oct 2017 #10
Ironic to the 10th degree LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #17
No one is arguing otherwise. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author demmiblue Oct 2017 #9
And he's particularly polarizing in this case. My daughter is going to the convention and was not deurbano Oct 2017 #14
I hope she makes her feelings known. LisaM Oct 2017 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #22
My daughter is not a member of DU, but I can guarantee that she is a lot more progressive deurbano Oct 2017 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #29
There you go starting your bullshit, Iam a man and a woman is a no-brainer to lead this..... Old Vet Oct 2017 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #38
That is another reason to stay out of it. Scruffy1 Oct 2017 #42
Tamika Mallory GaryCnf Oct 2017 #5
He's what women need? WhiteTara Oct 2017 #8
Guess they want someone who speaks with authenticity KPN Oct 2017 #11
i consider myself very strongly feminist barbtries Oct 2017 #12
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #13
Bernie keeps on trucking! Many interviews and lots of invites all over USA. Love to see Sunlei Oct 2017 #16
Bernie is our friend and ally LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #18
Lol snooper2 Oct 2017 #19
You forgot the ROLFL smiley. Its much more dramatic. LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #20
I, too, "just find all the irrational hatred tiring" -- though I would add "predictable" Jim Lane Oct 2017 #21
Yup LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #23
The Our Revolution methods are what is divisive. R B Garr Oct 2017 #35
Interesting that Democrats in Washington appreciate his efforts and work with him LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #43
The continued efforts to elevate yourselves because you worship one Senator R B Garr Oct 2017 #44
I guess Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris and others must really think he's God LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #47
Sigh. I don't see Warren's or Harris's supporters berating people because they don't R B Garr Oct 2017 #48
Is he gonna mansplain? Pugster Oct 2017 #24
A man is the headliner at the Womens Convention? Hmmm... that seems odd. LonePirate Oct 2017 #26
A man speaking at a women's convention? dubyadiprecession Oct 2017 #27
Not sure why an actual woman couldn't headline a woman's convention all american girl Oct 2017 #28
Right, Because Women Can't Possibly Speak For Themselves Me. Oct 2017 #30
There are around 40 people speaking. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #31
And The Headliner? Me. Oct 2017 #32
Seriously??? Beacool Oct 2017 #33
K&R.. disillusioned73 Oct 2017 #34
Really, Hate, You have to go there..................... Old Vet Oct 2017 #40
Yeah, when the default position of some (small %) disillusioned73 Oct 2017 #41
Exactly. Owl Oct 2017 #46
The Group Could Not Find A Qualified Female Speaker, So They Chose... TomCADem Oct 2017 #45

Voltaire2

(13,027 posts)
1. Senator Sanders is a tireless warrior.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 06:32 AM
Oct 2017

I am amazed at what he has been doing since November's disaster.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
6. I think that, in the 21st century, a women's organization should be able to decide for themselves
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 08:56 AM
Oct 2017

who they choose to invite to speak to them.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
10. Now this is a legitimate +1000!
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:17 AM
Oct 2017

Exactly!

Ironic this stuff comes from those who complain about "purists".

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
39. No one is arguing otherwise.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:15 AM
Oct 2017

No one is arguing otherwise.

Unless of course, you believe arguing a particular choice is wrong or inaccurate or even thoughtless is the same as arguing choice should be denied... which seems a rather irrational jump to a conclusion.

Response to DURHAM D (Reply #4)

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
14. And he's particularly polarizing in this case. My daughter is going to the convention and was not
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:06 PM
Oct 2017

happy to hear this was the choice, even though she started as a Sanders supporter in the primary. She's actually rethinking whether she wants to go.

Response to deurbano (Reply #14)

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
25. My daughter is not a member of DU, but I can guarantee that she is a lot more progressive
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:05 PM
Oct 2017

than “the real world." (For that matter, so is DU.) She did become a “hardcore Clinton supporter,” volunteering hours every day in the general, entering data with her one good finger. (She’s quadriplegic with a speech disability.) But as I said, she started out for Sanders. We met him in the late 1990s at a book signing in Berkeley because we were fans when few outside of Vermont knew who he was, and she even got a photo with him which she later posted on FB at the beginning of the primary. (My daughter and I lived in VT when she was a young child, and I had followed Sanders' political career with interest after voting for him during one of his unsuccessful bids for governor; we were excited when he decided to run for president.) In order not to refight the primaries (and I would include the convention), I won’t go into the reasons Sanders lost my daughter’s support (and sometimes respect), but she is not alone in that reaction, and there are other progressives like my daughter (and me!) who feel that way. I don't get why the guy who lost the primary to the first women nominee of a major party would be the person chosen for this role at this particular
convention... except my daughter says she thinks it was mainly organized by people who supported Sanders in the primary?

Response to deurbano (Reply #25)

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
36. There you go starting your bullshit, Iam a man and a woman is a no-brainer to lead this.....
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:06 AM
Oct 2017

And your just trying to start shit with that Clinton/Sanders debate again. Some like myself have had enough threads ruined by this in-fighting.

Response to Old Vet (Reply #36)

Response to Old Vet (Reply #36)

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
42. That is another reason to stay out of it.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:14 PM
Oct 2017

Maybe in another 4 or five years we will be able to discuss the -18 election debacle rationally. Until then there is just too many looking for a fight, not a discussion. Personally I think they made a good choice, but then it's really none of my business and criticizeing is just carping. It was their choice, not mine. I think the reason was to draw more attention and support for progressives and younger people, who lean toward Bernie. We really need to quit looking back and look forward. I do know if we keep doing the same thing we will get the same results. One lesson that should have been learned a long time ago is that many voters do not vote rationally. If you can't appeal to emotion you are going to lose. This applies to all elections In the age aof media sound bites and blathering talking heads. The message has to be able to rise above the noise.

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
5. Tamika Mallory
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 08:19 AM
Oct 2017

is what community activism is about.

She is a voice for women's rights, a voice against gun violence and a voice against our racist criminal justice system.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
12. i consider myself very strongly feminist
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:24 AM
Oct 2017

for about 45-50 years now, and just can't get riled up about this.
to me womens liberation always represented everybody's liberation, the way to break out of destructive roles and all live our lives in the best way for us. in a letter my son gave me the greatest compliment when he wrote that i raised my sons to be feminists. 2 of my sons marched with us in DC in January.
Men can be extremely effective women's advocates. anyway on twitter i read that he "co opted" the convention, but google brought me to a page where the organizer gave her reasons for choosing him. so i don't know. just my 2 cents.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. Bernie keeps on trucking! Many interviews and lots of invites all over USA. Love to see
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:16 PM
Oct 2017

interviews with Him and Hillary about current affairs.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
18. Bernie is our friend and ally
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:48 PM
Oct 2017

"I think that right now, no one can deny that Bernie Sanders is probably one of the most powerful U.S. senators ... on progressive issues, women’s issues, mobilizing millennials. He is really in line with the principles of the Women's March,"

Democrats in Washington see this. Kamala Harris is a close ally on issues with him as well as other Democratic women. But on DU we have this grumpy group that is still fighting the primaries, (even though they won which is doubley bizzare)

Some have convinced themselves that if only Sanders had never existed. Or just chosen not to run. Or failing that, just chose to bow out earlier...then Hillary would have swept to power.

In fact I would contend she would have done worse. She would have faced all the Russian and GOP assaults on her own. Case in point, even Sanders running against her, scolded the press about obsessing about "her damn emails". Hillary, though no fault of her own, was seen as a cold bureaucrat without much stage presence, also someone that, once again through no fault of her own, was seen as damaged goods due to relentless fake news about her for years. And that would have been the only face of the Democratic party. I don't think the GOP or Putin for that matter was prepared for Sanders. They had no dirt. And the SOCIALIST! bogeyman meme just didn't catch on. So he was free to extol the advantages of voting Democrat. And he did it in a loud, populist, full arena kind of way. He drew many more, including young people into the party......many whom then voted for Hillary.

The Democrats as a party owe Bernie a yuuuuuuuuge debt of gratitude for all the work he has done and continues to do. And for this purpose, Sanders speaking will raise the profile of the event, as he is such a popular politician. Also, isn't it important that its NOT always women talking to women on women's issues? That its important for others, specifically other men, to see a "bro" stand with women and their concerns?

I just find all the irrational hatred tiring.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
20. You forgot the ROLFL smiley. Its much more dramatic.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:33 PM
Oct 2017

I thought that was the MO of those in here that can't argue back and think laughing out loud will cover up that uncomfortable fact.


 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
21. I, too, "just find all the irrational hatred tiring" -- though I would add "predictable"
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:36 PM
Oct 2017

Before I even clicked on this thread, I could have pretty much written most of the hostile posts, just on the basis of the headline.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
23. Yup
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:46 PM
Oct 2017

I think its important to the party and to DU in general, to point this divisive behaviour out when it happens. Unfortunately some find it amusing.

R B Garr

(16,953 posts)
35. The Our Revolution methods are what is divisive.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:05 AM
Oct 2017

I notice the desperate attempts to copy the "divisive" narrative. Claims of splitting the party are what is divisive. Not worshipping one man is not what is divisive. Nice try, though, but Fail.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
43. Interesting that Democrats in Washington appreciate his efforts and work with him
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:29 PM
Oct 2017

And also the American people appreciate him as he tops polls as the most popular politician.

Yet on DU we still have folks like yourself that just cannot stomach the man. A man that is working tirelessly, at his age, to fight against Trump, work with Democrats, and to promote a platform of positive progressive change. And yet he's not accepted. He is a Sneech without a star.

An example of divisive posts is ones that exaggerate why people like myself support all his hard work. Calling it "worshiping". Because we applaud his efforts. News Flash: Politicians are in a public job. Paid for by working people. It is important, even imperative that they go on TV as guests, and make speeches in front of crowds, when given the opportunity. If what they say catches wind, they are applauded and become popular. That is how it works.

Your welcome.

R B Garr

(16,953 posts)
44. The continued efforts to elevate yourselves because you worship one Senator
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:08 PM
Oct 2017

from a small state is what is divisive and also sadly amusing. "Appreciating his efforts" has only been going on since 2015. Before that he wasn't spoken of, really -- he even said himself he had to run as a Democrat to get the media attention. I'm from California, and I like my Senators. It's a good thing to like Democrats. Nothing wrong it, and anyone who can tolerate Trump in office just to make a purity statement is hardly a "progressive."

Winning elections is also proof that you are "applauded and become popular." That's how it works. That's the ultimate poll. Not some obscure poll where people are pitted against folks like Newt Gingrich.

Trying to split the party is what is divisive. Not liking the divisive ways of one politician is not what is divisive. I see you keep trying to turn the tables but keep failing.


LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
47. I guess Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris and others must really think he's God
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 07:24 PM
Oct 2017

Because they actually work with him!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/13/us/sanders-medicare-for-all-plan-support.html

One-Third of Democratic Senators
Support Bernie Sanders’s Single-Payer Plan

I'm just a lowly peon. Maybe He'll appreciate me more after I finish this 40 foot marble statue of Him, but ....cough,....the marble dust is getting to me.


R B Garr

(16,953 posts)
48. Sigh. I don't see Warren's or Harris's supporters berating people because they don't
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 08:10 PM
Oct 2017

worship them or demand absolute fealty to anything they say, whether abstract, damaging to the Democratic party or otherwise.

I fully expect Senators to work together. I'm sure Sanders will support California's new bill to show his taxes if he wants to campaign in my state.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
28. Not sure why an actual woman couldn't headline a woman's convention
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:38 PM
Oct 2017

We have so many awesome women, why do this....this is a problem that some women have, revert to a man to tell us about our experiences...not cool.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
33. Seriously???
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:56 PM
Oct 2017

Why is he the opening night speaker, as opposed to a woman of note? He could be a speaker, but the opening night headliner???

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
41. Yeah, when the default position of some (small %)
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:53 AM
Oct 2017

is to criticise and/ or smear anything remotely positive from a certain politicain - yes, that is the textbook definition..

or they r trolls trying to divide any unified front going forward.. probably a mixture of both though IMO

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
45. The Group Could Not Find A Qualified Female Speaker, So They Chose...
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 12:27 AM
Oct 2017

...someone who called one of the most qualified Presidential candidates in history unqualified? Is he going to give tips on how to deal with men who interrupt and speak over women in conversation?

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