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highplainsdem

(48,977 posts)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:11 PM Aug 2012

Romney: Japanese In Century-Long Decline

Source: BuzzFeed

"We are not Japan," he told donors at a $2,500-a-plate fundraiser. "We are not going to be a nation that suffers in decline and distress for a decade or a century. We’re on the cusp of a very different economic future than the one people have seen over the past three years."

Read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-japanese-in-century-long-decline



Romney said this at a fundraiser this morning.

As the first paragraph of this two-paragraph story said, this was "a shot at Japan" from the candidate who just keeps proving that he isn't qualified for any office that demands diplomacy, let alone the presidency.
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Romney: Japanese In Century-Long Decline (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2012 OP
As the potential Diplomate-In-Chief, Romney's going to insult every single country no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #1
Ditto SoapBox Aug 2012 #4
Except for Ubeki-beki-bekistan KamaAina Aug 2012 #11
Alzheimers, gotta be. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #2
You may be more right than you think! LongTomH Aug 2012 #27
You mean like his inability to remember the word "doughnut"? starroute Aug 2012 #37
Well, half zeimers, at any rate. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #45
What century is he talking about? surrealAmerican Aug 2012 #3
What a gaffe factory this dumbass is! Lasher Aug 2012 #5
It might have been a "shot" at Japan... KansDem Aug 2012 #6
Maybe someone should send him a list of nations get the red out Aug 2012 #7
Wake me up goclark Aug 2012 #8
Whatever...Here's 10,000 Japanese in decline singing Ode to Joy BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #9
They must have just heard there is no way in hell MittWit will ever get elected! beac Aug 2012 #22
It's an end-of-year ritual in Japan BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #23
It isn't a ritual per se psychopomp Aug 2012 #63
Magnificent! silverweb Aug 2012 #40
10,000 Japanese in decline singing Ode to Joy kxm40 Aug 2012 #54
That's a worthy first post BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #55
Thank You kxm40 Aug 2012 #62
How many allies has does this make that he has insulted? rox63 Aug 2012 #10
We have found Romney's Achille's Heel. Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #12
Hee!! Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #13
WIN. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #21
DUzy candidate! rocktivity Aug 2012 #26
Excellent! xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #28
DUzy. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2012 #59
Way to insult another ally, dipshit. n/t reflection Aug 2012 #14
The flip-side to Romney's American Exceptionalism ... philly_bob Aug 2012 #15
Japan's Transportation otohara Aug 2012 #16
We stay in Okinawa a month or two out of the year. Rozlee Aug 2012 #35
Well, since he thinks Obama goes around "apologizing" to every country JBoy Aug 2012 #17
Romney woke up this morning and thought; "Who haven't I insulted yet?" Fozzledick Aug 2012 #18
"Wanna hear my funny Puerto Rican impression"? nxylas Aug 2012 #19
I wonder what Mittens Daddy ... bayareaboy Aug 2012 #20
OMG really - is there any country that Mitt hasn't offended LynneSin Aug 2012 #24
Luxembourg. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #47
Several of my family members own Prius cars. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #25
McCain was right. Palin IS better. nt Bossy Monkey Aug 2012 #29
"We are not going to be a nation that suffers in decline and distress for a decade or a century" Javaman Aug 2012 #30
He is just trying to see who he would like to start a war with Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #31
Chatty Cathy dolls made more sense than Romney. gordianot Aug 2012 #32
Except Switzerland and Cayman Islands. muntrv Aug 2012 #33
Where is he getting this stuff from? Justice wanted Aug 2012 #34
He's done it AGAIN!!! elleng Aug 2012 #36
Luckily for us he can't actually cause a global blackball of the US unless he's elected. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #38
Romney thinks we need to support only 1 nation. penndragon69 Aug 2012 #39
Oh how the neo-lib economists hate Japan Lefty Thinker Aug 2012 #41
the PLANET is going to be in decline, Willard maxsolomon Aug 2012 #42
Japan has both an aging and declining population hack89 Aug 2012 #43
Sure, Mitt. Leaving Japan with a GDP per capita of $42,820 (US - $48,450) pampango Aug 2012 #44
Romney just lost the Japanese-American vote. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #46
Is there no one this man will not gratuitously insult? n/t malthaussen Aug 2012 #48
Holy crap will someone shut him the fuck up? Marrah_G Aug 2012 #49
What bad timing! The 67th anniversary of Hiroshima ProgressiveEconomist Aug 2012 #50
what the fuck is he talking about? madrchsod Aug 2012 #51
Let's put this in perspective. The US dressage team placed a fabulous 6th place in the Olympics. dimbear Aug 2012 #52
Can't wait for the debates brush Aug 2012 #53
only Flatpicker Aug 2012 #56
what he's saying fairytales Aug 2012 #57
welcome to DU maddezmom Aug 2012 #58
There goes the Republican Nippon-American vote longship Aug 2012 #60
LOL - from New York magazine's article on this today: highplainsdem Aug 2012 #61
Also, Japan, after 20 years of 'decline' Ebadlun Aug 2012 #64
When rMoney gets finished downsizing, off-shoring, and doing a leveraged buyout of America, truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #65

no_hypocrisy

(46,104 posts)
1. As the potential Diplomate-In-Chief, Romney's going to insult every single country
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:14 PM
Aug 2012

in his first term, isn't he?

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
27. You may be more right than you think!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:07 PM
Aug 2012

I posted something on this earlier in the week. I was talking to someone who remarked on Romney's gait, specifically the very short steps he takes. It seems that can be an early sign of Alzheimers or dementia.

See the links in this: Could Romney be an early case of Alzheimers or dementia?

Maybe it's time for a "Romney on the couch" post. His gaffes, his habit of laughing at inappropriate times, all could be signs of mental disturbance.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
8. Wake me up
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:21 PM
Aug 2012

When he decides to tell "the whole truth and nothing but the truth".....

Wake me up when he finally understands how to NOT insult other countries.

IdiotMitt

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
9. Whatever...Here's 10,000 Japanese in decline singing Ode to Joy
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:22 PM
Aug 2012

I've been looking for an excuse to post this...Thanks, Willard:

beac

(9,992 posts)
22. They must have just heard there is no way in hell MittWit will ever get elected!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:29 PM
Aug 2012


Cool video. Thanks for posting!

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
23. It's an end-of-year ritual in Japan
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:43 PM
Aug 2012

And not a bad advertisement for the human race, if you ask me.

Thanks for watching.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
40. Magnificent!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:02 PM
Aug 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]This piece always brings me to tears. It's so beautiful and uplifting, created by a genius who was almost completely deaf at the time he composed it.

Joy, beautiful spark of the gods,
Daughter of Elysium,
Joy, beautiful spark of the gods,
Spark of the gods!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beethoven%27s_Ninth_Symphony

Thank you so much for posting this incredible performance.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
16. Japan's Transportation
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:36 PM
Aug 2012

I was in in one of the many train stations and wondered if my country will ever have bullet trains or any trains like there are in Japan - I'm beginning to think not. Hydro-electric plants are common in Japan. They have survived Atomic bombs, Tsunami's and recessions - The Japanese are an amazing people IMO.

Fuck this guy, how dare he trash Japan, especially after suffering the loss of 3/11/11

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
35. We stay in Okinawa a month or two out of the year.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:34 PM
Aug 2012

My stepson is half-Japanese and we visit, plus we own property there. Their ghettos look like our more modest subdivisions. If they're in decline, we should follow in their steps.

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
17. Well, since he thinks Obama goes around "apologizing" to every country
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:40 PM
Aug 2012

it's only logical that he would try to do the exact opposite.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
19. "Wanna hear my funny Puerto Rican impression"?
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:51 PM
Aug 2012

"Whaddya mean they're practically American? They don't look American!"

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
20. I wonder what Mittens Daddy ...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:05 PM
Aug 2012

would have said about might have said about manufacturing cars? Japan vs America.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
47. Luxembourg.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:45 PM
Aug 2012

That's the country Romney likes to funnel his winnings through to avoid paying income taxes in the United States.
Err, I mean, earnings.
Uhh, I guess it actually could be considered both . . when you buy a company and then bet against it by burdening it with massive amounts of debt like Bain did with GST Steel.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
25. Several of my family members own Prius cars.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:52 PM
Aug 2012

We still buy a lot of Japanese technology.

I don't think Romney knows what he is talking about. But then, what is new?

As of the most recent census (October 2010), Japan's population is 128,057,352; for March 2012 the estimated population is 127,650,000[1] making it the world's tenth most populated country. Its size can be attributed to fast growth rates experienced during the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

Japan experienced net population loss in recent years due to falling birth rates and almost no net immigration, despite having one of the highest life expectancies in the world at 81.25 years of age as of 2006.[2] Using the annual estimate for October of each year, the population peaked in 2008 at 128,083,960 and had fallen 285,256 by October 2011.[3] Its population density was 336 people per square kilometer. Based on the Health and Welfare ministry estimation released in January 2012, Japan's population will keep declining by about one million people every year in the coming decades, which will leave Japan with a population of 87 million in 2060. By that time, more than 40% of the population is expected to be over the age of 65.[4]

. . . .


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Japan

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
30. "We are not going to be a nation that suffers in decline and distress for a decade or a century"
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:16 PM
Aug 2012

if mittens becomes prez, it will only take us 4 years.

"We’re on the cusp of a very different economic future " no shit, if the anti-pinnochio is elected, we will be in crash dive mode.

elleng

(130,905 posts)
36. He's done it AGAIN!!!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:34 PM
Aug 2012

ALLIES ALLIES ALLIES!!!

What a dummkopf!

And in addition, he's WRONG, we ARE going to continue to decline as long as he, his friends, their friends, and their friends around the world behave as if financiers are entitled to FIDDLE WHILE ROME BURNS!

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
38. Luckily for us he can't actually cause a global blackball of the US unless he's elected.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:44 PM
Aug 2012

The man is a blazing disaster waiting to happen if he is elected, though.

 

penndragon69

(788 posts)
39. Romney thinks we need to support only 1 nation.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:46 PM
Aug 2012

He would be a lapdog for the imperial dreams of the fascist
leaders of Israel.

Lefty Thinker

(96 posts)
41. Oh how the neo-lib economists hate Japan
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:07 PM
Aug 2012

I'll bet Romney picked up his antipathy for Japan from his business studies. You see, Japan steadfastly refuses to follow the neo-liberal models: even though their national debt is significantly higher than ours proportional to GDP, they still borrow yen at an astoundingly low rate. In fact, the Japanese economy is a poster child for Modern Monetary Theory. When they recently tried to abandon the prescriptions of MMT for neo-lib models, they were looking at a recession until they reverted to MMT prescribed policies.

I'll not claim that the Japanese Govt. actually ascribes to MMT, but they do exactly what MMT would recommend, which is good enough. Their big problem, the one they are in dire need of addressing, is their impending real goods and services shortage. With an aging population they won't be able to produce as much per capita, which monetary and fiscal policy can't readily address. They need to increase immigration or family size or they'll face some serious consequences in the future.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
42. the PLANET is going to be in decline, Willard
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:39 PM
Aug 2012

the cheap energy century is OVER, and it's never coming back. shuffing the deck chairs on the Titanic makes you look busy, but the boat's still sinking.

we need an honest politician who can manage contraction and a shift to a sustainable development model.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
43. Japan has both an aging and declining population
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:45 PM
Aug 2012

23% of their population is over 65.

Fewer workers and fewer consumers supporting a large and growing population of the elderly is not a recipe for economic success.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
44. Sure, Mitt. Leaving Japan with a GDP per capita of $42,820 (US - $48,450)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:49 PM
Aug 2012

and a much more equitable distribution of income (Gini - 38.1) than the US (46.8-the worst in the developed world).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_japan

The Japanese middle class is much better off than our. Even though their economy produces slightly less goods and services per capita than ours does but the benefits are shared much more equitably than they are here.

On second thought, I suppose that is a good reason for Mitt to disparage Japan (as republicans regularly do to Europe). Wouldn't want Americans getting too many ideas from other countries, would you Mitt?

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
46. Romney just lost the Japanese-American vote.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:41 PM
Aug 2012

Never had it, but he could have acted like he wanted to have it.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
50. What bad timing! The 67th anniversary of Hiroshima
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:15 PM
Aug 2012

bombing by the US, where tens of thousands of civilians were incenerated instantly in the first use of nuclear weapons, occasions Romney's insult to the Japanese people. Is he blaming Japanese culture for lesser economic achievement, the way he's recently blamed Palestinian and "welfare" recipient culture?

A diplomat Romney certainly is not.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
52. Let's put this in perspective. The US dressage team placed a fabulous 6th place in the Olympics.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:28 PM
Aug 2012

Japan wasn't even in the top 9 places. Clearly a once proud empire gone to seed.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
56. only
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:29 PM
Aug 2012

$2,500 per plate?
I thought that was the "wave in your general direction while walking by" price.

We ARE on the cusp of a very different economic future. But, who in hell thinks that Romneyhood would be the RIGHT economic future?

fairytales

(1 post)
57. what he's saying
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:41 PM
Aug 2012

He didn't say Japan was declining from 100 years ago . He said US isn't going to suffer for a century from now. The reason why he's talking about Japan is because Japan's birth rate is too low and the debt is too high which is still becoming larger every year, and this suffering started around 1990. Japan might not be able to have a healthy economic growth until 2090 and that's what he's saying about.

longship

(40,416 posts)
60. There goes the Republican Nippon-American vote
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 01:16 PM
Aug 2012

How many more voter demographics can Rmoney alienate?

The astounding one this last week was the normally conservative Iowa farmers who make a profit by leasing their farmland for wind energy production.

No wonder Rmoney is tanking. By November there won't be a demographic that he hasn't insulted.

Poor Mitt. Poor poor Mitt.

highplainsdem

(48,977 posts)
61. LOL - from New York magazine's article on this today:
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 04:12 PM
Aug 2012
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08/mitts-foreign-policy-etiquette-still-needs-work.html

As Foreign Policy's The Cable points out, the line could be interpreted as "needlessly insulting the face-conscious Japanese," particularly since Japan analysts (Japanalysts?) say the assertion that the country has been in decline for a century "isn't a fair characterization," considering the immense economic strides the country made following World War II. A former spokesman for the Japanese Foreign Ministry explained that, while the Japanese are somewhat used to being cited as a cautionary tale, Romney would be better off if he didn't seem to think "decade" and "century" were interchangeable.

Ebadlun

(336 posts)
64. Also, Japan, after 20 years of 'decline'
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:56 PM
Aug 2012

is still the world's third largest economy, with very low rates of inequality and crime, superb public transport, and cars and electronics the world wants to buy. And this with a country with few natural resources.

I think it suits some people to talk of Japanese stagnation - Germany got the same shit in the 90s, and look at them now. They're not playing the neo-liberal rules, they must be suffering for it some how!

truthisfreedom

(23,147 posts)
65. When rMoney gets finished downsizing, off-shoring, and doing a leveraged buyout of America,
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:16 PM
Aug 2012

we'll be better than ever! And he can walk away with all of the cash!

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