Trump will scrap critical Obamacare subsidy

[sandensea]

Source: Politico

President Donald Trump plans to cut subsidy payments to insurers in his most aggressive move yet to undermine Obamacare after months of unsuccessful repeal efforts on Capitol Hill, according to two sources.

The subsidies, which are worth an estimated $7 billion this year and are paid out in monthly installments, may stop almost immediately since Congress hasn’t appropriated funding for the program.

Scrapping the funding is likely to provide another jolt to the already fragile Obamacare markets. The impact may be cushioned by the fact that many insurers had priced next year's plans higher than they otherwise would have, fearing this decision. Others have already fled the Obamacare markets, which are set to begin open enrollment in Nov. 1 for the 2018 plan year.

Insurers rely on the subsidies to reduce out-of-pocket costs for low-income Obamacare customers. They’re still on the hook to provide the discounted rates to their members under the law, despite no longer receiving the federal funding.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/12/trump-obamacare-subsidy-243736

[rdking647]

1. its time for him to be removed from office. any way possible

[BigmanPigman]

5. Do you have any Mafia connections? I will chip in.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

26. My last name ends in a vowel....

Would that help?

[briv1016]

23. Do you really think Pence or Ryan would be any better?

[MFM008]

25. its not a contest

Its like saying there was no difference between Maggot and Hilllary............
Lets deal with one ass hat at a time.

Nothing is as bad as he who will not be named.
NO ONE.

[briv1016]

27. Actually it's not like comparing Hillary to Donald at all.

Pence is just as vindictive and bloodthirsty as Donald with a religions twist that will make him even more focused on targeting LGBT+ Americans. And Ryan is an Ayn Rand follower who has lead the repeated repeal attempts of the ACA in the house and now the new tax reform bill.

What's more, both of them actually have half a brain so they might actually be able to work with the house and senate repugs to pass legislation.

Tell me where I'm wrong here.

[MFM008]

35. your wrong

Pence is standard republican crap.
Also he doesnt have the rabid insane following.
He is an establishment repuke.
He doesnt tweet compulsively.
He wouldnt threaten other world leaders with names.
Yes hes loathsome.
As far as targeting LGBT, maggot is doing a fine job all by himself.
Pence is a religious ass.
Maggot has no beliefs, only $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Its his God.
His mantra is Chaos and destruction.
He is a sadist he really gets off on suffering .
He is an emotional vampire.
Pence is the next Gerald Ford.

[world wide wally]

33. Trump is more brazen.

All of them would like to do it but I don't know if Pence would be brazen enough to steal America's health care from them so openly. We can only hope there is a hell for at least Donald J T rump

[riversedge]

32. our only hope is mueller.

[sinkingfeeling]

2. The F**king Moron single-handedly destroying the country.

[stevil]

3. *

Asshole.

[BigmanPigman]

4. Now 50% of my income will go toward my healthcare!

It was 35%. FUCK HIM!!!!!!

[msongs]

6. seems to me a prez cannot rewite congressional law. not sure how he can do this nt

[sandensea]

10. The problem is Congress.

What's to stop them from actually implementing his tinpot decrees?

[mdbl]

39. He's not rewriting the law, he's removing protections from Obama administration

The law didn't address certain problems so Obama compensated with executive orders, that are easily rescinded if an evil self-centered asshole takes over the white house - thus our current situation.

[MichMan]

42. Are you saying the ACA was poorly written in the first place? nm

[Yupster]

46. The ACA that passed was not supposed to be the law

They made all kinds of side agreements, additions and subtractions just to get the bill through the senate.

It didn't matter because the slop would be cleaned up when the real bill was written in the Conference Committee.

Then Ted Kennedy died and Scott Brown won the seat taking away the 60'th vote.

So the only choice was for the House to pass the senate's version which was never supposed to be the final law.

Obama did his best cleaning up the mess with Executive Orders.

[MichMan]

50. Were the subsidies ever in the law that was passed or not? nm

[mdbl]

53. You could just make your point instead of the snarky nm's

It doesn't solidify your position very well - it just makes it look like you want any kind of public health care initiative to fail.

[MichMan]

54. Not my intent

It is hard for me sometimes to type on my phone, so I usually wait until the PM when I can use a computer.

If the subsidies were in the legislation, the court would rule it couldn't be overturned. If it wasn't then that would indicate that the house and Senate screwed up by omitting it. Not sure which is true

[Yupster]

55. No

A Democratic congress would not pass a law that gave payouts to giant insurance companies year after year. This was added as an EO once the numbers didn't work out the way they hoped.

[Grassy Knoll]

7. Is There Still A Tax Return Penalty If You Have No Insurance ?

[Motownman78]

18. Depends

If your premiums for a bronze plan would be greater than 10% of your income you do not owe the penalty.

[not fooled]

19. I think the IRS

has been directed to not enforce the penalty. Sorry, I can't remember where I read that. But if he hasn't implemented such a directive, he will.

I don't think dump has the policy knowledge to figure out on his own how to destroy the ACA, but you can bet that he has been supplied by e.g. the Heriturd Fuckdation with kochbots who have gone over the legislation with a fine-toothed comb to determine what to do to dismantle Obamacare. Then, all they have to do is funnel the money into tax cuts and they have achieved their ends.

We are living with the consequences of a coup last November.

[AJT]

8. Getting this done is why the GOP will not impeach. They get the things they want while 45 provides

the distractions.

[enough]

9. How can he think this will help him? NT

[sandensea]

11. It seems he's just going for broke at this point.

He must figure his days playing dictator are numbered, and that he might as well inflict as much harm as he can while he still can.

[xor]

36. His base is really really stupid and/or brainwashed.

So he'll always have them. And then many of the anti-trump republicans will cheer this on because even though they hate Trump, they still hate the ACA.

[Freethinker65]

12. What a vindictive fucking asshole. The GOP owns this motherfucker

[SHRED]

13. This is horrible

What an evil bastard.

[MFM008]

14. Why won't this MFr

Drop dead?

[jzodda]

15. The blood will be on his hands.

The deaths that are about to occur, the blood is on his hands.

[BigmanPigman]

16. I just wrote him an email and said that along

with my wish to see him suffer in agonizing pain throughout eternity and I called him every awful name in the book. This was not the first time I have written to him with such sincere hatred.

[Danmel]

41. He probably bathes in blood

He is a fucking monster.

[workinclasszero]

43. Yes it will be on his hands

and he could care less.

He and his ***kin party exist to attack and destroy as many American citizens as it can and they fully control all political power in this godforsaken fascist state we are all living in at this time.

Will people finally get off their asses in 2018 and start to fight the terrorist GOP?

I have many doubts about that.

[Matthew28]

17. The same people that drive this crap

are the same people that said let them die.

This is what Trump believes. Pure evil.

[not fooled]

20. Between those people who want to see others die

and the ignorant among us who have tuned out, the GOPee won't suffer any consequences. I hate to say so, but they have been destroying this country since raygun and look where they are now. Of course, they got there through lying, cheating, and stealing but they don't care. They are ruling as a minority through election rigging.

I remain convinced that it will take a major depression or war to wake people up and end the grip pukes have on this nation.

[BlueIdaho]

21. Let the suffering begin.

Trump is determined to kill Obamacare no matter how much it hurts ordinary Americans.

[Grammy23]

22. The adult daughter of a very good friend of mine is getting her insurance

Thanks to the subsidy paid for her. She had not had health insurance in some time so she went for a physical and because she had a dark mole on her back. She is very fair skinned and is a true redhead. Turned out to be melanoma, but caught fairly early. She had surgery and has been seen for follow ups ever since. In addition, she has other health issues that were misdiagnosed for years as COPD. She has been under the care of pulmonary doctors, too.

When I heard that tRump is yanking the subsidy payments, I felt a knot in the pit of my stomach. My friend’s daughter is the first person I thought about. Even if she doesn’t get kicked off of her insurance immediately, it will probably eventually run out. The stress they will feel worrying about this is just so unfair.

tRump will have the blood of every person who suffers as a result of his cruel actions. Out of pure spite, he has jeopardized the lives of millions. What a sick bastard he has turned out to be.

Karma has a sh*t load of revenge coming for him. May he be consumed by the heat of a thousand suns. I cannot wrap my head around the sickness that has control of his life to make him so cruel. But he is building up a debt he will never pay off if he had all the gold in Ft. Knox.

[sandensea]

24. It's so important to have real-life accounts. Thank you for this!

I suspect these bastards are so convinced they're already going to Hell, they've figured they might as well go for broke.

I like to think instead that we come back - and that such people will be reborn in Haiti or some afflicted place like that.

[cilla4progress]

28. There will be a lot of medical bankruptcies

again.

[Doreen]

29. He is going to have the blood of a whole hell of a lot of people on his tiny hands.

How come I have a sick feeling he and the administration like this.

[NBachers]

30. He's standing at the broken window and unloading as many rounds as he can.

[sandensea]

31. ↑ Thread winner.

[workinclasszero]

45. Yep

[Beartracks]

34. GOP fails to repeal ACA, so Trump opts to hurt the sick & elderly on his own by kneecapping it.

[videohead5]

37. He's Trying to Blackmail

The Democrats to come to the table.I would tell him to go screw himself.he will be blamed.

[muriel_volestrangler]

38. Joint statement from Pelosi and Schumer:

“Sadly, instead of working to lower health costs for Americans, it seems President Trump will singlehandedly hike Americans’ health premiums. It is a spiteful act of vast, pointless sabotage leveled at working families and the middle class in every corner of America. Make no mistake about it, Trump will try to blame the Affordable Care Act, but this will fall on his back and he will pay the price for it.

“President Trump has apparently decided to punish the American people for his inability to improve our health care system. Trumpcare collapsed because Americans overwhelmingly recognized the cruelty and higher costs it meant for them and their loved ones. Now, millions of hard-working American families will suffer just because President Trump wants them to.

“If these reports are true, the President is walking away from the good faith, bipartisan Alexander-Murray negotiations and risking the health care of millions of Americans.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-to-end-csr-payments

[Bayard]

49. So much for working with Chuck and Nancy

Is this going to yank people out of nursing homes?

I suspect Medicaid is the next target.

[Vinca]

40. Republicans will soon find this affects them, too.

What's so maddening is that Obamacare could be fixed fairly easily. Instead, people are going to be made to suffer and die. I know what Obamacare meant to me (now on Medicare) and I also know there are millions more like me.

[Javaman]

44. basically what the trumpster fire did was...

when the other kids wouldn't give him the basketball, he took out his switchblade and popped it.

[Bengus81]

47. GD this POFS!! ...........................

[LudwigPastorius]

48. I loathe that fucking piece of shit.

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Thanks to him my monthly premium will probably more than double.

Chances are, I'll just end up going uninsured.

[Kablooie]

51. And of course the Fox News headline:

President cuts payments to ‘pet insurance companies,’ triggers war with Dems

They will hide the damage he's doing and blame it all on the Dems while people die from lack of proper medical care.

[Bengus81]

52. Who's the FIRST Trump voter out there with ACA and a pre-existing condition.....

that will LOSE coverage and have to re-apply with some insurance company? Good luck FUCKER,you might as well spend the money on a burial plot and services because they WON'T cover you.

That's the thing dumb asses,when that shit gibbon pulls these stunts Republicans don't get a pass because they voted for him. Your in that same sinking boat we're NOW stuck in.