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bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:13 AM Oct 2017

N.C.A.A.: No Penalties for North Carolina

Source: NY Times

The N.C.A.A. on Friday morning announced that it “could not conclude that the University of North Carolina violated N.C.A.A. academic rules” in what is widely considered the worst academic scandal in college sports history.

The organization, which governs the top tier of college sports in the United States, did not levy any penalties against North Carolina.

According to a university-commissioned investigation, North Carolina had for nearly two decades offered a “shadow curriculum” of fake classes into which athletes were steered. The university appeared guilty of subverting the N.C.A.A.’s central tenet that college athletics are a mere component of education.

U.N.C. was charged with a “lack of institutional control” resulting in violations of bylaws governing extra benefits to athletes and ethical conduct.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/sports/unc-north-carolina-ncaa.html

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lancelyons

(988 posts)
1. Shocking. the NCAA is one of the most corrupt organizations out there. Academic Fraud.. no problem
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:17 AM
Oct 2017

Shocking. the NCAA is one of the most corrupt organizations out there. Academic Fraud.. no problem.
Having a hooker in the dorm, major major violation.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
2. This is bullshit and the NCAA is worthless!
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:21 AM
Oct 2017

The "cash cows" have a different set of rules than everyone else. Reminds me of the joke Bobby Knight told years ago. He said the NCAA was so mad at Ohio State that they put Western Kentucky on probation for 3 years.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
3. Well those kids will learn something in college
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:33 AM
Oct 2017

money can buy damn near anything and can corrupt damn near any human. Just ask the NCAA

christx30

(6,241 posts)
8. And as long as they can make jump shots,
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:10 AM
Oct 2017

who cares if they are prepared for life after college? Especially if they suffer some kind of career ending sports injury?

Sickening this is ok with some people.

Botany

(70,502 posts)
4. Nicky Santoro in Casino: "Always the dollars, always the fuckin' dollars."
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:34 AM
Oct 2017

What only 20 years of running a phony college in order to keep people
eligible to play basketball and still nothing?

Nicky Santoro in Casino: "Always the dollars, always the fuckin' dollars."

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
6. Most of the sanctions talk started from rival schools
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:57 AM
Oct 2017

Their pitchforks were out to get UNC from Day 1.

Sorry, but the NCAA didn't have a case to begin with- If they had imposed sanctions UNC would have taken them to federal court and won.





paleotn

(17,912 posts)
9. Why doesn't the NCAA finally admit the truth....
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:13 AM
Oct 2017

The idea of the scholar athlete is a myth and always has been in the power conferences. It's simply a farm system for professional athletics, under the guise of a major university. And like any minor league system, such as professional baseball, only a few ever make it to the top. At least professional baseball is honest about it, and not doling out worthless degrees to unqualified athletes. Most guys never make it out of the bus leagues and end up selling cars or going back to school.

An equally pernicious myth is held by a handful of usually more academically rigorous institutions who still believe they can actually educate their scholarship athletes AND compete in the power conferences, without cutting corners. They simply cannot. Period. End of story.

unc70

(6,113 posts)
10. NYT article written before NCAA results
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:17 AM
Oct 2017

The article, like many, was written anticipating that the NCAA would find UNC guilty of further NCAA infractions. But that was not the case, but the article remains essentially unchanged.

The NCAA findings are the same as what various prior investigations have found: the chair of the AFAM department and his assistant ran a system of “slide” courses that only required term papers for credit. About 30% of the students who benefited were athletes. (There were a high percentage of AA students in those classes. No one wants to talk about that.)

There were problems found at the beginning of all this with sports agents providing benefits to several football players at UNC. UNC sanctioned itself and the NCAA added a ban on bowl games years ago. The N.C. SoS investigated the sports agents using subpoena powers, ultimately gaining convictions of several. One of those revealed back then, Marty Glazer, became a cooperating witness for the FBI and wore a wire leading to the recent charges against prominent college basketball programs.

I am glad this sordid mess is finally coming to an end.

unc70

(6,113 posts)
12. I am biased, but not necessarily wrong
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:28 PM
Oct 2017

The problems in the African American Studies department were real. As bad as it was, it only affected a very small corner of one department. The biggest scandal is that, because of the politically sensitive nature of that department and many of its students, norms for oversight were not maintained. Academic freedom cuts both ways.

BTW you’re

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