After Video Refutes Kellys Charges, Congresswoman Raises Issue of Race
Source: nytimes
WASHINGTON Video of a 2015 speech delivered by Representative Frederica S. Wilson revealed Friday that John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, misrepresented her remarks when he accused her of bragging about securing $20 million for a South Florida F.B.I. building and twisting President Barack Obamas arm.
Ms. Wilson, in an interview on Friday, called Mr. Kelly a liar and hinted strongly that the altercation, prompted by a call from President Trump to the widow of a fallen black soldier, was racially charged.
The White House itself is full of white supremacists, she said.
Mr. Kelly, escalating a feud between Mr. Trump and Ms. Wilson, had cast the congresswoman on Thursday as a publicity-seeking opportunist. However, the video, released by The Sun Sentinel, a newspaper in South Florida, showed that during her nine-minute speech, Ms. Wilson never took credit for getting the money for the building, only for helping pass legislation naming the building after two fallen federal agents.
She never mentioned pleading with Mr. Obama, and she acknowledged the help of several Republicans, including John A. Boehner, then the House speaker; Representatives Mario Diaz-Balart and Carlos Curbelo; and Senator Marco Rubio.
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I feel very sorry for him because he feels such a need to lie on me and Im not even his enemy, Ms. Wilson said of Mr. Kelly. I just cant even imagine why he would fabricate something like that. That is absolutely insane. Im just flabbergasted because its very easy to trace."
"They are making themselves look like fools. They have no credibility, she said. They are trying to assassinate my character, and they are assassinating their own because everything they say is coming out and shown to be a lie.
spooky3
(34,452 posts)it is likely to be sexism/misogyny as well as racism, that is driving Kelly's lies and insults.
SunSeeker
(51,554 posts)Of course, it can be both racism and sexism. The two are not mutually exclusive. Indeed, they usually go hand-in-hand.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)I didn't like the way Kelly spoke about the congresswoman, but calling someone an "empty barrel" refers to the old saying "Empty barrels make the most noise". It has nothing to do with race.
SunSeeker
(51,554 posts)And Lawrence did a great job of explaining the highly segregated neighborhood Kelly grew up in and how that affects Kelly's world view. I can see racism in it.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 22, 2017, 11:26 AM - Edit history (1)
On the whole, I thought O'Donnell was out over his skis on Kelly,. because, for one thing, he does not even know the man, and he's drawing inferences on him that are based solely on a neighborhood that Kelly -- and he -- left fifty years ago...The argument being that, if the neighborhood didn't "stick" to Lawrence, why should he -- and the rest of us -- assume it stuck to Kelly?...
As I said, I think Kelly's a jerk, a Trump toady, and maybe even a liar given his false account of Rep. Wilson's speech. He may even be racist, I just don't think there's enough here to be certain about it.
SunSeeker
(51,554 posts)The account wrote about assembling "ten good men to help carry out a lynching," adding that they "must have own horse and saddle" but "rope will be provided.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/356545-congresswomans-office-getting-thousands-of-calls-during-feud-with
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)But I don't see how race is involved.
spooky3
(34,452 posts)The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)They are making themselves look like fools. Kelly jumped the shark.
lapfog_1
(29,204 posts)that smell of the bullshit just expelled onto the American People.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)world wide wally
(21,743 posts)spooky3
(34,452 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)against her.
Trump goes even more insane with each new challenge to his divinity.
Kelly pulled out all the stops trying to intimidate her.
The Congresswoman is still standing, more power to her.
She has the support of sane people everywhere.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)He should have followed Mark Twain's advice, It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)She's gotten a lot more famous. Not just from her criticizing the President's call, but because the White House then made a personal attack on her.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)They thought they were putting out a fire by sending out a Gold Star general. They've now managed to turn this into an inferno. They should have left it alone after Rep. Wilson said she wouldn't be making further public comments, but it's personal now.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That's what I heard on the news. The W H people were all teary eyed at the wonderful defensive speech Kelly gave.
He won't be leaving because of this. I'm sure they think this was one of his shining moments.
CousinIT
(9,244 posts)lark
(23,099 posts)What a wonderful heroine and role model for young women.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I'd love to be a young woman, entering college and/or the working world, with all these role models. So many choices that weren't there when I was that age.
NBachers
(17,108 posts)FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Too many newspapers chickened out last year. This would have never happened while Cheeto was campaigning last year.
If they're lying - call it that way.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)to indicate they're using that word but meaning "lie."
ffr
(22,670 posts)They are caught red handed in their lies upon lies. What kind of low self esteem individual sinks to such cowardly lies to cover up their own weaknesses???
These are people we're suppose to look up to. Heaven forbid what future generations will take from these most chaotic of times!
Good for you Ms. Wilson!
Discussionist KING
(34 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Martin Eden
(12,867 posts)It's the Trump effect.
Kelly hasn't contained the orange abomination; he's been co-opted.
shanny
(6,709 posts)He's a believer: look no further than his behavior at his previous post of Homeland Security
TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Referring to him as Mister Kelly, rather than using his former military rank, implies correctly, albeit painfully so that he is a civilian now.
Some but not all of these high-ranking officers may infer that, somehow, we taxpaying citizens are beneath them. I would remind them that theyd raised their right hands and swore to defend our nation. All of us. And while rank may have its privileges, respect is earned.
As an Army brat (Ret.), Im quite familiar with the dedication and loyalty of military families, not to mention the sacrifices they make, especially when the service member becomes a wounded warrior, or pays the ultimate price. There, but for the grace of deities, fate, Karma, et al., might my father have gone. Mr. Kelly as a Gold Star parent deserves our support. But, as a member of *45s administration, he sacrificed the respect, honor and perhaps dignity he earned in uniform.
Still, this slight deliberate or accidental will not go unnoticed.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,981 posts)Don't put your foot in your mouth after walking the cow pasture.
tavernier
(12,388 posts)Enoki33
(1,587 posts)doing so he laid bare the fact that he allowed himself to be used by DOTUS in an attempt to cover his outrageous words to a grieving widow and his subsequent lies to hide that fact. Kelly described that man who hid behind him in an attempt to erase more proof that he is in a job way above his level of competence and morality as bravely making the call. Shame on him.
coolsandy
(479 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)we all already know a bigot and misogynist when we see one.
The thing these two old, white men can't stand is being taken to task by a black woman. Just too much for their fragile egos and delicately constructed masculinity.
FigTree
(347 posts)From a to z, from the onset to now, and for the foreseeable future. As usual with any form of discrimination, racism is largely invisible because everyone, aside from a handful of very disturbed individuals, knows it is essentially immoral. It therefore tends to express itself indirectly and allusively, at least in the mass. When Trump uttered his tacky and third-rate slogan of "make america great again", it communicated, surreptitiously, indirectly and allusively, albeit very clearly to targeted individuals, "white" in the place of "great". It allowed the repressed racist impulse to find a behavioral expression while preserving an appearance of morality.
On a macro-sociological level, the election of this clownish individual can be seen as the result of a sort of gagging reflex of a racist majority that knows that non-whites are on their way to rapidly become the majority. Racism is historically dead. But history does not move fast.