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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 06:58 PM Oct 2017

Nunes: Democrats Made Russians 'Successful' By Pursuing Dossier

Source: Talking Points Memo




By MATT SHUHAM Published OCTOBER 26, 2017 5:56 PM

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) on Thursday blamed Democrats for what he called “successful” Russian interference in the 2016 election, saying that the “commotion” created by Democrats over a dossier of information about President Donald Trump had played into the Russians’ hands.

“What has allowed them to be successful in this sabotage of an election is that they’re trying to change public opinion,” Nunes told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto, referring to Russia.

Nunes attempted to argue that revelations that Hillary Clinton and the DNC partly funded the research on Trump by former MI6 official Michael Steele could have biased the Congress and the intelligence community’s potential use of that information. (Republicans previously funded research about Trump.)

“With all of this commotion, and with all of the nonsense that was put out, don’t you think it would have been important for the Congress to know back in January, when we were first briefed on this Trump dossier, that it was actually paid for by the opposition party?” Nunes asked.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/nunes-democrats-made-russians-successful

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Nunes: Democrats Made Russians 'Successful' By Pursuing Dossier (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2017 OP
I cant take anymore of this treason. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #1
Oh yes you will. You will take lots and lots more before they are done. Kablooie Oct 2017 #43
Lord give me strenght Iliyah Oct 2017 #2
Two questions--what difference to the truth of the report does this make? Maeve Oct 2017 #3
Trump is claiming that HRC paid for FICTION-WRITING. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #25
And the Trumpanzee knows fiction! Maeve Oct 2017 #36
The DNC should loudly boast about vetting Dotard J. Turd. lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #39
Nunes would be bluestarone Oct 2017 #4
How did HE make it on to Scarsdale Oct 2017 #5
I have never but I think I'll donate to anyone who runs against Nunes D OR R blueinredohio Oct 2017 #6
Nunes is nothing but a shady fuck head. What garbage. YOHABLO Oct 2017 #7
So the democrats made Russia hack our elections so they would lose the elections? Botany Oct 2017 #8
I did some digging and at least found this - our old friend Ari underpants Oct 2017 #13
Gas lighting and or The Big Lie Botany Oct 2017 #15
And he's still at it. Poxy. eom sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #21
Wow. The balls. Even uses "collude" to defang Trump investigation. Beartracks Oct 2017 #31
The entire GOP is corrupt. Dawson Leery Oct 2017 #9
Dang, I love me some nutshell goodness! WinkyDink Oct 2017 #26
This is nonsense. But they shouldn't have been handed this ammunition. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #10
It's not ammo. They know that the GOP originally hired them and Don Jr met w Russians .... bettyellen Oct 2017 #33
Apparently not. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #37
It's not ammo because collision with reps of a foreign state is different. bettyellen Oct 2017 #38
OMG that's a pretzel-twisted vat of logic right there. BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #11
The real question is, how will the dossier implicate Nunes Mr. Ected Oct 2017 #12
Michael Steele? IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2017 #14
I so wish he could lose in November 2018 kimbutgar Oct 2017 #16
Give it up, Nunes. You can't even fake talking points. Sheesh. What a sucker. Must be ensnared. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #17
Jesus Christ this fucking hemorrhoid just shits diarrhea right out of his fucking mouth, doesn't he? NBachers Oct 2017 #18
That's the best ya got, GOP? C Moon Oct 2017 #19
I would pray for Mueller to nail Nunes but BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #20
That's okay. We possess a 'spirit' and it attunes itself to all things good. sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #22
If hoping that Nunes gets nailed with the rest of them BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #23
Good deal! Meet and right and proper resolution as sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #24
Me too! I think Nunes... machoneman Oct 2017 #35
The brain explodes in trying to find the language to describe these....things in human skin. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #27
Dumb, twisted, illogical argument. The GOP base will most certainly believe it. Beartracks Oct 2017 #28
Yes, because it's "the real collusion with Russia," according to FOX. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #29
Isn't ANYONE digging up information on Nunes ??? OnDoutside Oct 2017 #30
He has something to do with a winery. Demtexan Oct 2017 #32
Huh??? Pachamama Oct 2017 #34
The way these scumbags torture logic Nac Mac Feegle Oct 2017 #40
LOL Skittles Oct 2017 #41
Here's where the Pubes try to discredit the Russian Investigation by discrediting a single Dossier. Hugin Oct 2017 #42
Nunez ought to go to jail for obstruction of justice. coolsandy Oct 2017 #44

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Lord give me strenght
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 07:06 PM
Oct 2017

Something must be coming forth that has the GOP scared because they are pooping all over themselves.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
3. Two questions--what difference to the truth of the report does this make?
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 07:08 PM
Oct 2017

After all, many of the details have been proven true and NONE proven false...and secondly, why, if Clinton and the DNC knew what the dossier said, didn't they USE it in October 2016?

Third question...just who has what part of you in what kind of a vice to make you act this way, Nunes?

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
36. And the Trumpanzee knows fiction!
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:27 AM
Oct 2017

He spouts little else....so, projection, again.

And if she paid for it, why didn't she use it? The only answer that makes any sense is that she didn't know about the dossier before the election.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
39. The DNC should loudly boast about vetting Dotard J. Turd.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:31 PM
Oct 2017

We and our enemies would respect them more.

Devin Nutcase always spews nonsense that sounds like he's meth-addled. I can never trace the "logic" in it. I guess that's why deplorables are sucking it right up.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
5. How did HE make it on to
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 07:15 PM
Oct 2017

the Intelligence Committee? Were all the other stupid people already on other committees??

underpants

(182,789 posts)
13. I did some digging and at least found this - our old friend Ari
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 07:45 PM
Oct 2017



In other words, someone hired by someone hired by someone hired by the Clinton campaign talked to sources in Russia and got dirt that the campaign didn’t use that could have undermined the Kremlin’s goal of electing Mr. Trump, ergo, Hillary colluded with Mr. Putin. For that, Mr. Fleischer earns undisputed Alternative Fact of the Week honors.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-1027-alt-fact-russia-dossier-20171025-story.html

Botany

(70,501 posts)
15. Gas lighting and or The Big Lie
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 07:58 PM
Oct 2017

Gas Lighting

Gaslighting is a form of manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, hoping to make them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, it attempts to destabilize the target and delegitimize the target's belief.


Joseph Goebbels:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

*****

BTW don't forget Ari's work on the Iraq war.

We know for a fact that there are weapons there.

Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
January 9, 2003

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
33. It's not ammo. They know that the GOP originally hired them and Don Jr met w Russians ....
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:22 AM
Oct 2017

Everyone knows this is bulkshit.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
37. Apparently not.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:41 AM
Oct 2017
The law firm for the Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee has acknowledged its clients' role in paying a company called Fusion GPS for opposition research on Trump. Some of that research became the dossier of allegations about the now-President and Russia.
This matters because:
Fusion GPS is the research group that hired as a subcontractor the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele. And it was Steele, working for Fusion GPS sometime after it hooked up with the Democrats, who compiled the now-famous dossier.


but also....

(Steele's) investigations related to Mr. Trump were initially funded by groups and donors supporting Republican opponents of Mr. Trump during the GOP primaries, multiple sources confirmed to CNN. Those sources also said that once Mr. Trump became the nominee, further investigation was funded by groups and donors supporting Hillary Clinton.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/26/politics/trump-clinton-podesta-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html

We gain nothing by not acknowledging facts. So the HRC campaign did fund it, but they didn't START the funding by that research group. That was apparently started by REPUBLICANS.
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
38. It's not ammo because collision with reps of a foreign state is different.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:13 PM
Oct 2017

It's different than standard oppo research.

BumRushDaShow

(128,912 posts)
11. OMG that's a pretzel-twisted vat of logic right there.
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 07:43 PM
Oct 2017

Democrats were "successful" in enabling Russia to have Drumpf win the election.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
16. I so wish he could lose in November 2018
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 07:59 PM
Oct 2017

Unfortunately that part of California is filled with low information chemicallly poisoned people that affected their brain cells. I drove though that area last year and it smelled so rancid. The chemical smells were overwhelming.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
18. Jesus Christ this fucking hemorrhoid just shits diarrhea right out of his fucking mouth, doesn't he?
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 08:20 PM
Oct 2017

Projectile-vomiting of shit-drenched lies.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
19. That's the best ya got, GOP?
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 08:33 PM
Oct 2017

The GOP trying their typical spin-doctoring. Next, they'll repeat it again, and again, and again, and again, and again.

sprinkleeninow

(20,246 posts)
22. That's okay. We possess a 'spirit' and it attunes itself to all things good.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 02:09 AM
Oct 2017

It works kinda mysteriously. I can't even explain properly.

I believe when one generates positive and beneficent hopeful 'thoughts', they translate into a kind of 'prayerful' substance.

I don't want to offend by these words of mine.
Please forgive me if I have.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
23. If hoping that Nunes gets nailed with the rest of them
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 02:19 AM
Oct 2017

is a positive and beneficial hopeful thought then I am sure I can do that. I will wish my head off for such an outcome.

sprinkleeninow

(20,246 posts)
24. Good deal! Meet and right and proper resolution as
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 02:45 AM
Oct 2017

a stepping stone in saving our nation and we the people.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
35. Me too! I think Nunes...
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 07:30 AM
Oct 2017

is once gain going all in to protect Trump since he has nothing to lose.

I thought after the last kerfuffle (singularly issuing subpoenas w/o any knowledge by the rest of the bi-partisan committee) we might have heard the last from this dunce. Ah, but since then news has appeared of a Mueller or FBI investigation into his corrupt acts. I venture that now he feels that he has nothing to lose and may earn a pardon from Trumpenfuehrer for his efforts here.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
30. Isn't ANYONE digging up information on Nunes ???
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 02:56 AM
Oct 2017

He's clearly not the smartest villain in the GOP, and is likely to have left a trail. So how come no one is coming out with stuff on him ?

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
32. He has something to do with a winery.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:07 AM
Oct 2017

Mostly likely cleaning up some dirty money.

He is in this neck deep.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
34. Huh???
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:30 AM
Oct 2017

There is no logic in their reasoning and arguments
I don't give a rats ass who paid for this dossier and how much or even why...

What is relevant is it exists and we all acknowledge the dossier exists. And the contents of this dossier whether having been used (or not!) by any of the parties prior to the election or after - is accurate and tells the truth about Donald Trump, his campaign and the players involved in his election and why!

Who the fuck cares who paid and why etc....

What's relevant is what the dossier contains.....

THE TRUTH!!!!

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
42. Here's where the Pubes try to discredit the Russian Investigation by discrediting a single Dossier.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 05:10 AM
Oct 2017

They are attempting to try this thing in the court of public opinion. Working the refs, as they always do.

The Prosecution needs to keep strongly and repeatedly emphasizing that the Steele Dossier was a small part of a much wider investigation on a scandal which was recognized by at least seventeen domestic intelligence agencies and several allied foreign governments.

In fact, the only role for the Steele Dossier so far, was that the Special Prosecutor was confirming the information it contained. Which, apparently the investigators have been successfully doing.

Oh, and for you lurkers reading this... Even if the Russian Collusion is somehow discredited. There is ALWAYS the whole Obstruction issue.

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