Clinton: There are lots of questions about legitimacy of Trumps election

[riversedge]

Source: the hill





By Julia Manchester - 11/17/17 09:05 AM EST



Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton says there are still a number of questions surrounding the legitimacy of the 2016 presidential election due to Russian interference in the race.

"I think there are lots of questions about [the election's] legitimacy and we don't have a method for contesting that in our system. That's why I've long advocated for an independent commission to get to the bottom of what happened," Clinton told Mother Jones in an interview published Friday.

"This is the first time we've ever been attacked by a foreign adversary, and then they suffer no real consequences, and so I'm worried that we're not learning all of the lessons," she continued. "The forces at work outside of my campaign are not going away. Somebody else is going to be running for Congress or governor or eventually president. We've got to know how to protect ourselves."

"I think as we learn more about it, we know that the web of connections between people on Trump's team and Russian representatives just gets more dense," she added. ......................................

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/360857-clinton-there-are-lots-of-questions-about-legitimacy-of-trumps

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Oh my. Trumps EGO is going to have a sad!!
very good interview.




Hillary Clinton Sits Down With Mother Jones: The Interview

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Mother Jones
Published on Nov 17, 2017
A year after her defeat by Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton says “there are lots of questions about its legitimacy” due to Russian interference and widespread voter suppression efforts. A candid, wide-ranging interview with Mother Jones' senior reporter, Ari Berman. Read more at motherjones.com

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[getagrip_already]

1. oh the sad...

trump will go ballistic on twitter over this. He will probably indict clinton himself.

[machoneman]

3. Yes he will!

This is great! I do hope Hillary gets even further under his skin.

Hey. why not a special prosecutor to SOLELY look at the election results, voting data, etc. to declare the election was rigged!

[riversedge]

5. Trump has been ragging on Hillary since the election (much before also) and she has

refused to get into a twitter fight with him, much to my delight. But I am glad she hits back in this interview. I think the word--legitimacy is going to tear him apart. It really eats at him.

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

26. "I think the word--legitimacy is going to tear him apart".

Maybe. Once someone explains to him what legitimacy means.

[MontanaMama]

31. Have Kellyanne tell the Orange Simpleton

that it kinda means he's a fake president. SAD!

[blue-wave]

11. LOL!!

Thanks for the laugh when I'm sipping coffee. The sad is that he likely thinks he can.

My true concern is what Hillary mentions about half way in. That the forces who influenced the 2016 election are not going away.

And now they know how awake we are by gauging our recent victories. We must be constantly aware.

[dalton99a]

2. Kick

[saidsimplesimon]

4. Mrs. Clinton

I posted a link to a Russian think tank located in Toronto that published a call to "investigate" Mrs. Clinton, in 2016, before the David Corn news story. Instead of a gold medal, I was given a rebuke for "conspiracy theories" on another democratic blog.

[marble falls]

13. History has proven you were right, glow in the light.

[saidsimplesimon]

15. Bernie has my heart, still.

Being correct about predictions is a bitter pill.

[marble falls]

17. Especially when people who you respect condemn you for positing woooooooo.

Bernie and Elizabeth Warren are about the only two Senators that are unsullied and without hidden agendas. I think that when no more accusations come out of the woodwork for Al Franken, he'll be back in the light, too. Chuck Schumer comes close, but just not quite there yet.

[Hortensis]

39. Shining lights? Light on Sierra Blanca, maybe?

I'm a Paul Wellington type of progressive liberal Democrat. He WAS a genuine progressive light and his death a loss to all Americans.

As one who belonged in that light, Paul fought Sanders' plan to ship Vermont's radioactive waste to the outskirts of some poor village in Texas. When Paul couldn't prevent it, he tried to add an amendment that would at least give the people of Sierra Blanca some say in how it was done.
Sanders even voted against Paul's amendment. He voted that the people of Sierra Blanca would have NO say in what happened to their town.

And, since you mention it, Sanders has a huge personal agenda that we're all aware of.

I'll agree that Chuck Schumer, Warren and Franken, who has been a very good, democratically principled senator, belong on the list you inserted on this thread. There are a bunch of other Democratic senators, unnamed, who are also deserving of the light, of course.

Hillary's not in the senate now, of course, but, like Paul, she is herself a light.

[marble falls]

40. This Paul Wellington?:

http://obits.syracuse.com/obituaries/syracuse/obituary.aspx?pid=164848058

[marble falls]

41. Ahhhhh Paul Wellstone whose seat Al Franken holds ....

https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/15/what-about-sierra-blanca-bernie-from-radioactive-waste-on-the-rio-grande-to-reparations/

Counterpunch is a source of information for me that sometimes tends to go off a tad far. About the dump I vaguely remember it, I drive thru Sierra Blanca on my way to Phoenix and stop there to eat usually going to visit folks. The last time the drought had affected the town so bad the wells had become contaminated with waste from septic systems. No drinking water except bottled and I boycott Nestles.

In terms of the geologic stability, this area is "suitable" for radioactive storage. Personally for me there is nowhere on earth safe for radioactive waste. And a fairly low income area is not fair game for a state 1000+ miles away with a problem with their own waste.

There's a large portion of our population of our nation comfortable with nuclear and comfortable not knowing anything about the details. No politician in Vermont would advocate holding nuclear waste until some sort of solution makes itself known. Just like there's no politician Texas that wouldn't sell out a small, lower middle-class town with few jobs, few voters by advocating the storage of waste if its done to currant "standards".

The issue isn't waste. The issue is killing nuclear. All around Sierra Blaco are some of the hugest wind farms (and some photoelectric farms) on earth and Texas produces so much wind electric it give the power away for practically free at night. Too bad we really don't have a cohesive grid in the US.

As to reparations, in what form and how? Bernie Sanders answers to his electorate and no doubt has some amount of clay feet, but so do most of our heroes. I'll take Bernie over 99% of those we manage to elect any day.

BTW Paul Wellstone was a great man and his seat is well filled by Al Franken, someone I didn't care much for until he got elected.

[Hortensis]

43. Yes, THAT Paul Wellstone. :) (My fingers have a life of their own

sometimes, and I'd been updating a recipe for boeuf bourguinnone if you can follow that!)

Seriously, I do object to the false equalization though. Paul Wellstone was a liberal progressive of good character and good judgement who had already become one of our greats when he was tragically taken from us. His agenda was often considered radical, not his personality or ethics. He had many friends and admirers among his Democratic Party colleagues, and when he died the right was vociferously, and nastily, glad.

Robert Reich, Facebook, July 24, 2015: Years ago when Paul Wellstone was running for the Senate from Minnesota he took positions I thought absolutely correct, but were to the left of most of his constituents. He assured me voters are more interested in the integrity and authenticity of candidates than the specifics of any policies they espouse. "They know that I believe what I say, and they trust I have their interests at heart," he told me. "That's why I'll win." Paul did win, and he became one of America's greatest senators. I often think about him these days, as Bernie gains momentum."

Yes, it worked that way for all of us who remember him. Seemingly about the only thing Sanders cared to take from his example was his method of financing his campaign. .

The Nation, 2012: From Paul Wellstone to Elizabeth Warren: The great progressive senator fought an often lonely battle to prevent banks and credit card companies from rigging the system against working families. His ally then is running for the Senate now.
https://www.thenation.com/article/paul-wellstone-elizabeth-warren/

[lamp_shade]

6. She's wonderful. She knows how to "bait" the idiot. I love it.

[Gothmog]

7. Trump is an illegitimate president

[onit2day]

19. Trump is a PINO who was not democratically elected and ddoes not represent the majority.

[lagomorph777]

24. PINO - "Penis In Name Only"?

[MontanaMama]

32. That too.

[Botany]

8. "There are lots of questions about legitimacy of Trumps election."

Of course there are because "Trump's win" does not pass the smell test.

[onetexan]

9. Hillary really knows how to get under the idiot's skin doesn't she

keep pressing his sorry little buttons Madame President .

[MFM008]

10. She said it in the campaign

Its easy to push his buttons.

..................................................................................mission accomplished.

[fierywoman]

14. I can see her finally push a certain of his buttons

which causes him to blurt out damning evidence against himself.

[Wellstone ruled]

12. Been waiting for Hillary's

honest off the cuff comments about the passed Election. She is much more Politically savvy than her Husband. She never uses mush mouthed answers,just facts,and that scares the crap out of her opponents.

[PearliePoo2]

16. He's going to freak the fuck out!

Berman: "Do you still think he's Putin's puppet?"


Clinton: "I do...I do."


Clinton: "There needs to be an independent investigation."

Oh my!

[orangecrush]

18. Your rubles

At work!

[saidsimplesimon]

33. Vlad release the Pee Pee tapes

It's the least you can do for him that adores you.

[orangecrush]

34. When it rains

it pours.

[saidsimplesimon]

35. "Yellow Submarine" time?

[orangecrush]

36. They call him

"Mellow Yellow"!

[sandensea]

20. I'll say!

Starting with the purported vote total themselves, in certain states at least.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029253229

[bucolic_frolic]

21. Keep floating these trial balloons

illegitimacy of many things must be reversed in some way

We. Did. Not. Vote. For. This.

[HipChick]

22. She knows how to heap salt into a wound..

Bravo ...

[BigmanPigman]

23. AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION!!! YES!!!!!

I have been yelling for one for 9 months. The Dems in both houses, including Pelosi, have been writing and introducing bills calling for one but the GOP obviously will not allow it. It would be like the 9/11 commission and would be non partisan and couldn't be detailed by the GOP. Also it would be fully staffed and funded and relatively fast and the public would get to know the info. Hillary said she put the book out in part to alert the country to the fact that Russia is still messing around with our country and they can easily alter any legitimate election results again. We need to act fast so it will not effect future elections. The GOP is has given this country to the Russians, Koch and Mercers. No matter how many doors we knock on and gerrymandering is outlawed we still will not win if big donor money and foreign computer sabotage are allowed to continue. Our efforts at the grass roots levels with hope of a midterm win will be a waste of time and futile until we stop the hacking!

[lunatica]

25. I wish we could have an investigation into the 2000 selection of Bush as President

And of the assholes who swiftboated John Kerry.

And, of course the 2016 elections

Our Constitution has been in shreds fror almost three decades now.

[saidsimplesimon]

27. This is worse than Gore vs. Bush. imo

We must deny this cancer any ground. We'll fight, you'll see

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[marybourg]

28. Finally! We need to pick this up and repeat it

at every possible opportunity. TRump is illegitimate. Needs to become as frequently heard as
"Crooked Hillary" and "Lock her up"

[Me.]

29. REsist Hillary Resist

[lunamagica]

30. WTG, Hillary! Hit him were it hurts, Madam President!

[peggysue2]

37. Hillary Knows A lot More than We Do

Not only does Russian influence threaten our future elections, it threatens the Hive Mind conversation right now. Hamilton 68 has been tracking over 600 twitter accounts that have been cited as Russian influence operations. Quite interesting. Today and yesterday's Hot Topic?

Al Franken.

Do the Russians and their surrogates care about Franken and his frat boy behavior? No. They care about sowing disruption and chaos. They care about Americans distrusting our own Government, our institutions, our own free press. Doesn't matter which side as long as they get to stir the pot then sit back and smile with satisfaction. False equivalency, whataboutism? That's all part of the mind game.

And who in the US best mirrors this game-playing? Donald J. Trump and his traitorous sycophants, the men and women who claim 'alternative facts' are = to truth, the press = fake news, the slime merchants like Roger Stone who broadcast dirty trick plans in advance, people who beat the drum, claim it's better to elect a suspected pedophile to the Senate than a civil rights Democrat, etc., etc., etc.

This is real. It's happening now. It's called cyber-war and the majority of American citizens are only partially awake to what's going on around them. Forgetting who we are, what we stand for is the real poison. This goes way beyond party politics. This is a fight for our Democratic Republic.

Hillary Clinton knows how dangerous this is; she tried to warn us before. It's why she refuses to remain silent now.

[Rhiannon12866]

38. Of course she does, she knows more than she can possibly make public

And this is not a partisan issue, it's an issue of our national security and our future as a country depends on it. We need to hang on her every word.

[HipChick]

42. No wonder Twiddler is tweeting up a storm this morning..