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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:37 PM Aug 2012

Gingrich explains change of heart on Ryan budget

Source: CBS News

(CBS News) After having to apologize last year to House Budget Committee Chair Paul Ryan, R-Wis., for calling the Medicare overhaul in his budget proposal "right-wing social engineering," former House Speaker Newt Gingrich on Sunday argued his budget efforts, "in my mind, makes him an extraordinarily exciting choice" as Mitt Romney's newly announce VP nominee, "because you now have a national leader who is capable of talking in detail with the American people about some very complicated topics."

"The one thing I objected to back in May 2011," Gingrich told CBS News correspondent Nancy Cordes, "was that he eliminated Medicare for everybody. He came back with Ron Wyden. He listened, and one of the things I give Paul a lot of credit for is, he really listens. And he came back with an improved Medicare plan that Ron Wyden [the Democratic senator from Oregon] has co-sponsored and is the only bipartisan reform, by the way... It basically allows people to stay in the current system. He met my only objection."

Gingrich said the only fallout from the plan in senior-heavy states like Pennsylvania and Florida, would come as a result of "plain lies" from President Obama's campaign alleging the proposal would risk their Social Security and Medicare: "The Romney team doesn't touch anybody who's over 55, so it's a non-event," he said. "It's just plain, a lie, to run a campaign trying to scare people who are over 55 about his plan... if you want to keep the current system, you can."

"I think you can have an honest debate about it," Gingrich continued, "but when you start with an Obama plan which took $700 billion out of Medicare in order to put it into Obamacare, I think you're gong to have a pretty hard time being credible in trying to scare people about Paul Ryan."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57491677/gingrich-explains-change-of-heart-on-ryan-budget/



Interesting. Republicans are going to argue that the Affordable Care Act's costs savings actually constitute a "cut" in Medicare benefits! According to the CBO, the Act will reduce future Medicare spending by between $400 billion and $600 billion by pressing hospitals, hospices and other providers to become more efficient and by reducing spending on private Medicare Advantage plans.
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Gingrich explains change of heart on Ryan budget (Original Post) TomCADem Aug 2012 OP
there's a word I can't use on DU to describe Newt his his merry band of hookers. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #1
Sounds like Newt was told to tow the party line if he wanted help DJ13 Aug 2012 #2
You nailed it Bainbridge Bear Aug 2012 #5
Seems to me Newt was paid off and used goclark Aug 2012 #18
That would require him to have a heart. n/t Bossy Monkey Aug 2012 #3
Who? Scuba Aug 2012 #4
this will be an Obama ad Enrique Aug 2012 #6
Ack...the Newty... SoapBox Aug 2012 #7
He's a leach Iliyah Aug 2012 #8
Basically he is saying if you are under 55, you are screwed. Kalidurga Aug 2012 #9
To quote Condi-On-The-Ball, No one could have foreseen this! JHB Aug 2012 #10
And now Team Obama can make that ad that Newt said he didn't want them to make, Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #11
Wyden is a hack. Crow73 Aug 2012 #12
"in my mind" ... "have an honest debate about it," --Newt, honey, you can't have an honest debate underpants Aug 2012 #13
Here's the explanation for the "change of heart" - to keep going in front of the cameras n/t UTUSN Aug 2012 #14
What a Joke. The Last Democrat Aug 2012 #15
No To Newt elbloggoZY27 Aug 2012 #16
Newt's Delusional as Usual bucolic_frolic Aug 2012 #17

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
2. Sounds like Newt was told to tow the party line if he wanted help
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:40 PM
Aug 2012

in paying off his campaign debts.

 

Bainbridge Bear

(155 posts)
5. You nailed it
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:55 PM
Aug 2012

Its amusing to see that arrogant porker kowtow to the Rethug PTB. He never imagined that he would end up badly losing the race for the nomination AND in big time debt. He also has to contend with the fact that the Rethug party has passed him by and now they increasingly look to slash and burn Randian zealots like Ryan as their future. No Oval Office for you, Newtie, but maybe you can get a job at some right-wing "think" tank where they will still consider you as some kind of intellect. Hah, hah.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
7. Ack...the Newty...
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:11 PM
Aug 2012

he makes me want to vomit.

Hey Newty...STFU! I NEVER want to see your bloated face again.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
8. He's a leach
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:18 PM
Aug 2012

and I'm pretty sure the indies are flowing away from the gop like flies are attracted to s***.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. Basically he is saying if you are under 55, you are screwed.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:37 PM
Aug 2012

Guess what. I know people my age and people a bit older and we aren't just worried about ourselves. I want my kids to also have the same kind of safety net when they get older that I might have. If the GOP has their way, I am going to get bupkiss. Anyway, seniors care about their children just like anyone else. I can't tell you of all the heartbreak I have seen with seniors when they are worried about their children and the future of their grandchildren.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
10. To quote Condi-On-The-Ball, No one could have foreseen this!
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:37 PM
Aug 2012

Next up, Newt retroactively withdraws everything bad he said about Mitt.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
11. And now Team Obama can make that ad that Newt said he didn't want them to make,
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:40 PM
Aug 2012

They have shot their mouths off saying they support both sides of the issues so many times, they act like they are dizzy from riding on the GOP's Merry-Go-Round of Lies!!!

 

Crow73

(257 posts)
12. Wyden is a hack.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:46 PM
Aug 2012

MINNEAPOLIS — Sen. Bob Bennett (R-UT) came to the Hubert Humphrey Institute of Public Affairs to “shill” for the Healthy Americans Act he’s co-sponsoring with Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR).
Bennett insisted his bill was meant to expand the debate on health care policy with the hope that it could become the framework for real legislative action next year. The driving force behind the Wyden-Bennett bill is the belief that the health care system cannot be fixed without changing the tax code. Specifically, their plan targets the subsidies businesses receive to provide health care for their employers. Bennett explained that pensions and health care funded and managed by employers may have made sense in the 1930s, but that the success of 401(k)s in transforming the field of pensions shows consumer-centered health care reform can work.

http://blog.heritage.org/2008/09/04/the-employer-employee-health-care-link-must-be-broken/

"the success of 401(k)s"
Tell that to my boss that lost everything when MCI went belly up.
Charging people to manage their own money... Sounds just like their plan for Social Security.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
13. "in my mind" ... "have an honest debate about it," --Newt, honey, you can't have an honest debate
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:51 PM
Aug 2012

on anything.

15. What a Joke.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 04:53 PM
Aug 2012

Gingrich thinks you can have an honest debate. I don’t know why the new media keep letting him on, he’s a waste of time.

 

elbloggoZY27

(283 posts)
16. No To Newt
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 05:02 PM
Aug 2012

I listened to Mr Gingrich being interviewed about the Paul Ryan VP Selection and all he did was take pot shots at President Obama. That is the Agenda of the GOP. No real plans but the usual attack on our President.

By the way Social Security and Medicare are sound and the GOP is trying every excuse to scare the seniors and future SSA Beneficiaries.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
17. Newt's Delusional as Usual
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 07:06 PM
Aug 2012

He's known as a visionary, a thinker, an intellectual

but that's because the MSM call him that

just like they called right-wing John McCain a maverick.

Their ideas are simply delusional.

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