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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:55 PM Nov 2017

NSC to present Trump $47M deal to arm Ukraine against Russia

Source: The Hill




BY JOHN BOWDEN - 11/18/17 10:53 AM EST

President Trump will be presented with a plan from senior aides to finance and sell weapons to Ukraine in an effort to counter Russian aggression in the region, ABC News reported Saturday.

A State Department source told ABC that the National Security Council decided Tuesday to approve the presentation of a $47 million grant package that would supply Ukraine with high-tech defensive weaponry including Javelin anti-tank missiles. The president and Congress must approve such a sale.

"We have no announcement at this time," a spokesman for the NSC told ABC.

Ukranian officials said last month that they are pleased with the "acceleration" of improving relations between the United States and Ukraine following a 2014 Russian annexation of Crimea, a region previously controlled by Ukraine.





Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/international/361026-mcmcaster-to-present-trump-47m-deal-to-arm-ukraine-against-russia

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NSC to present Trump $47M deal to arm Ukraine against Russia (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2017 OP
Should be interesting to see what the idiot does about this! williesgirl Nov 2017 #1
Wow MaryMagdaline Nov 2017 #2
Oh my! Pootie ain't gonna like this one bit! Whatcha gonna do donnie? PearliePoo2 Nov 2017 #3
What does $47 million buy in advanced weaponry? Trump change. Fred Sanders Nov 2017 #4
180 man portable anti-tank systems Mad_Mongol Nov 2017 #6
Sorry comrade, but a top down Javelin has a very good shot against a T-90 7962 Nov 2017 #7
Sigh...way to miss the point Mad_Mongol Nov 2017 #9
On that point, I'll agree; 180 isn't much. Maybe waiting to see if they use them well? 7962 Nov 2017 #11
On a shoot and scoot system? Mad_Mongol Nov 2017 #12
Good luck with that! SergeStorms Nov 2017 #5
his answer is? bluestarone Nov 2017 #8
It would be interesting to exactly where that money goes. rockfordfile Nov 2017 #10

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
3. Oh my! Pootie ain't gonna like this one bit! Whatcha gonna do donnie?
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 01:09 PM
Nov 2017

God, I hope he's freaking out so bad, sweating bullets with his guts in knots that he completely strokes out.


Mad_Mongol

(86 posts)
6. 180 man portable anti-tank systems
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 06:11 PM
Nov 2017

The FGM-148 is a capable infantry weapon with a 90% 1-shot, 1-kill capability against all but the latest Russian tanks (T-90) The Russians have ~ 1500 T-90s in all variants in service.

In short, nothing for Putin to worry about.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
7. Sorry comrade, but a top down Javelin has a very good shot against a T-90
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 06:48 PM
Nov 2017

Its not a typical TOW

Mad_Mongol

(86 posts)
9. Sigh...way to miss the point
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 08:00 PM
Nov 2017

actually no.

The dual, shaped-charges are good for reactive armor modules, and the top penetration flight path helps, but again against the T-90 it's not a 1-shot, 1-kill proposition.


The point was; its a 180 unit lot, *if approved*. Militarily it is inconsequential. Now if Trump were presented with a portoflio to provide the Ukrainians 1800 units, then it's a different matter.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
11. On that point, I'll agree; 180 isn't much. Maybe waiting to see if they use them well?
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 08:46 AM
Nov 2017

Why send 1000 if the Ukrainians suck using them.

Mad_Mongol

(86 posts)
12. On a shoot and scoot system?
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 11:37 AM
Nov 2017

Really?

No really!

Now you're being ridiculous.

The whole thing is probably a gesture -- an empty one; to make like we're doing something for the Ukrainians. Will be very telling when Trump turns it down.

So maybe its a test for Trump designed by our military and IC to gut check his loyalty? Recall that he signed the latest Russian sanctions law, but his adminitiation has yet to enact that law.

It would be very sad if this turned into a Rubicon moment for our defense establishment.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
5. Good luck with that!
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 05:40 PM
Nov 2017

I'm sure Donnie already has his marching orders from Pootie-poot, and I'm betting the answer is NO! .

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
10. It would be interesting to exactly where that money goes.
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 10:21 PM
Nov 2017

I mean some people in the Ukraine could be pro Russia. Then those weapons could get into the wrong hands.

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