Fiorina on being a victim of sexual harassment: 'Of course I was. Every woman I know was'

[DonViejo]

Source: The Hill




BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 11/26/17 09:36 AM EST

Carly Fiorina, the former CEO of Hewlett Packard and Republican presidential candidate, on Sunday said she faced sexual harassment as she climbed the corporate ladder as did every other woman she knew.

When "Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace asked her whether she was ever a victim of sexual harassment, Fiorina said, "of course I was. Every woman I know was," she said.

"Was I propositioned? Of course. Was I introduced as a bimbo? Of course," Fiorina continued, adding that "this is common occurrence, unfortunately."

Fiorina said that despite more women coming forward to challenge men who act inappropriately, the real "watershed moment" will take place only when men begin to challenge and stand up to other men.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/361837-fiorina-on-being-a-victim-of-sexual-harassment-of-course-i-was

[customerserviceguy]

1. Gawd, I had to turn the channel

Carly Fiorina is what you get when Republicans try affirmative action.

[dalton99a]

2. She had no problem harassing women about abortion

[yallerdawg]

3. The Republican solution to everything.

"When men begin to challenge and stand up to other men."

Because history has shown repeatedly that the criminal oppressors are best at fixing their problem.

Certainly not the victims!

[7962]

5. I'm sure she's referring to other men in positions of power who will say "no more"

How are the women going to stop men if good men do nothing? The key is having those in power, men or women, make it clear that those days are now over. And I refer to both because we've seen women who stood by and said nothing just as other men did. BOTH need to change

[yallerdawg]

7. Let's ask the Native Americans how it has worked out.

Let's ask Black America.

Let's ask immigrants, especially those we exploit everyday.

Let's ask women.

"How is it working out letting the men with the power solve these problems for you?"

[7962]

12. OK, ask them. Who passed the Civil Rights Act? White votes. Women right to vote? Male votes

Who gave Native Americans US citizenship? White votes.
Did either have the ability to do anything without those in power going along? No. Certainly protests brought publicity to the problems. But ACTUAL change requires those in power to agree to that change
Men and women in power positions saying "this stops now" is what will turn the tide. That and pressure from shareholders of companies affected by lawsuits/settlements/loss of revenue due to harassment or other abuse. NOW it is in the public eye in a major way.
To ignore that is just lengthening the time it will take to see things change

[atreides1]

15. You have a point!

What you failed to acknowledge is the part played by the American people who applied pressure, and a few of those white politicians, who believed in those rights being given to all Americans!

LBJ pressured Democrats to support the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, because he played hardball with members of Congress.

Women getting the vote, once again public pressure.

Very few of those in "power" gave rat spit about giving rights to women, blacks, and native Americans...what they were concerned about was keeping their seats, and by ignoring an active American public wasn't the way to do that!

What I'm saying is that it wasn't only white votes, it was public pressure and political pressure that that made most of those whites vote the way they did!!!

[The Mouth]

16. That part- is OUR part.

All of those people who say 'I can do nothing' or 'I'm not part of the problem'- Yes, you CAN do something. All of us can apply pressure. Our union has been taking advantage of the new dialog, and we employees have been more easily able to get the ear of those in power.

Now I'm not absolving anyone of anything, yes many of those in power either don't give a shit or see nothing wrong, but every letter, every email can make it a tiny amount harder for them to do so.

Also, not to be ignored IMHO is the capacity of us who aren't directly affected to offer moral support, an 'I believe you', a thumbs up, to those who come forward. Again, perhaps not much if we're not a CEO or celebrity, but something. President Obama absolutely nailed it when he said he needed US to keep his feet to the fire.

[Lucky Luciano]

6. She is not wrong here, but she is far from being a champion of women. nt

[yallerdawg]

8. Men get together and come up with...

Non Disclosure Agreements, payouts, job terminations and black-balling!

Exactly the fox running the hen house!

[Lucky Luciano]

10. No - powerful men calling out other men and punishing them when they can.

Just like racial minorities and lgbt people needing allies from the privileged group.

Maybe be we are reading it differently, but your post is the opposite of how I was reading her comments - your post is suggesting she likes the status quo of NDAs payouts etc.


Make no mistake though - she is scum. Her pandering re Planned Parenthood means she is mostly worthless as an advocate for women. Her promotion of disaster capitalism makes her terrible on other levels as well.


Post #9 below is on point.

[7962]

13. Absolutely. nt

[still_one]

4. Let's ask the person who brought HP to its knees with the jackass Compaq deal, walked away with

millions, and caused 30000 people to lose their job.

One of the most inept people in the corporate arena

[Guilded Lilly]

9. Women know and have lived these attacks hourly their entire...

lives.
Women speaking out is absolutely the primary fight plan.
Men taking accountability and responsibility for their primary role is also essential.

[keithbvadu2]

11. Carly criticized Hillary for using the 'gender card' and then used it herself.

Carly criticized Hillary for using the 'gender card' and then used it herself.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/130146-carly-fiorina-used-the-gender-card-in-the-fifth-gop-debate-something-she-said-shed-never

Didn't the Donald say something about Carly's looks and not in a positive way?

[7962]

14. Of course. because he's a 12 yr old in a grown mans body. nt

[marble falls]

17. I honestly can't tell if she has Stockholm Syndrome, is turning lemons into lemonade or ...

minimizing others' experience and trivializing their victimization. I tend to lean to the third option.

[Orangeutan]

18. And yet she backed Trump.

[Grins]

19. On that "challenging men who act inappropriately", Ms. Fiorina....

Nov. 23, 2017. Asked whether she was ever a victim of sexual harassment:

"Of course I was. Every woman I know was. Was I propositioned? Of course. Was I introduced as a bimbo? Of course...this is common occurrence, unfortunately."

Fourteen months ago, Sept. 2015:

"Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?! I mean, she's a woman, and I'm not s'posedta say bad things, but really folks, come on. Are we serious?" - The great orange menace about Carly Fiorina

One. Effing. Year. later....

"We must have President Trump - we can't have President Clinton." - Carly Fiorina at the Washington State Republican Party's Fall Dinner, Sept. 2016