House needs to vote again on sweeping tax bill over procedural snag

[mobeau69]

Source: CNBC

House needs to vote again on sweeping tax bill over procedural snag.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/19/house-passes-gop-tax-reform-bill.html

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[VMA131Marine]

1. BWAAAHAAAAHAAAA!!!!

[floppyboo]

48. Bernie strikes again! With Ron Widen. well done!

https://24-hours-news.com/2017/12/20/the-house-has-to-revote-on-gop-tax-bill-because-it-broke-the-byrd-rule-what-is-the-byrd-rule/

[DeminPennswoods]

2. Wouldn't surprise me

This bill was thrown together so quickly and stuff was added in conference, the potential was always there for a technical screw up.

[rogue emissary]

3. What hell does this say about us that we lost control of Congress to these idiots?

[Plucketeer]

18. Word change

Surely you meant to say "GAVE" instead of "lost".

[BumRushDaShow]

4. Here's a link

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/19/house-passes-gop-tax-reform-bill.html

(they had it in a tweet)

[mobeau69]

5. And nothing about the snag. Great reporting, huh?

[BumRushDaShow]

10. I think the House was trying to follow reconciliation rules

so the Senate wouldn't have to amend it to death to be eligible for reconciliation under their rules and pass with < 60 votes and have to have it go back to the House again.

They may have snuck (draconian) policy things in there that weren't related to the bill subject.

[kwalter66]

28. Exactly

They threw in a Ted Cruz buy off allowing 529 college savings to be used for home school expenses and an exemption from taxes of endowments for the few colleges Betsy Devos supports. Neither of which are related to the budget. Can't wait to see if Cruz will throw a fit.

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Yup - I did see that... Plus they repealed an item via the number vs the title

which was also a violation, and was the 3rd provision (so far) that they found. There may be more in there!

And that buy-off for Devos was also one for Teabagger Toomey as I understand.

[mobeau69]

6. I don't know if it's a "procedural snag".

The reporter on CNBC that broke the news said the parlimentarian ruled that two provisions couldn't be part of what they voted on.

My Christmas wish would be that killing the individual mandate is the issue.

[mobeau69]

9. Figured it out.

The lazy asses at CNBC just added a new headline about the "snag" to an earlier story published TWO HOURS ago. Geez-O-Pete.

Do they teach journalism in college anymore?

[SoCalMusicLover]

7. Of Course, CNN & MSNBC Are Right On Top Of This

Well, not so much.

They have not said a single word yet.

Edit: MSNBC is too busy giving CC some airtime to spout his BS.

[DownriverDem]

8. CNBC

I think CNBC and MSNBC are all part of NBC. Why don't you put your energy into beating the crap out of the repubs?

[irisblue]

15. NPR top of the 5 pm EST news read has it.

Parliamentarian said needs to be redone, no details yet.

[mobeau69]

20. Blitzer's show just lead with but they didn't report the explanation. n//t

[pangaia]

25. Blitzer. LOL

Blitzer Blitzer..



How in hell does that freak have a job anywhere but cleaning up shit in the dog pound??

Ruff ruff wollff ruff.. wollffie ruff...

[mobeau69]

32. CNN should replace him with Chris Cuomo.

I'd miss him in the morning though.

[pangaia]

35. You would miss woof woof?

I don;t watch TV but have seen him at the gym.

How do you watch such stupid idiocy?

Like other male actors playing journalist, he has no fucking idea what to do with his hands, so he holds some paper,

[mobeau69]

36. No, Cuomo's on in the morning not woof woof.

[pangaia]

37. Oh, soorrrrie

[still_one]

24. I never rely on CNBS. They are loaded with Roger Ailes hires from when they were first started.

Bloomberg is where I go for actually financial news:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-19/house-plans-early-vote-democrats-plan-drama-tax-debate-update

[pangaia]

26. I get my info right here !!!!!!

YAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mobeau69]

33. Agree but CNBC was the first outlet with the story.

[still_one]

40. Just stating my personal preference, but I understand

[Bengus81]

11. A violation of rules is what CBS is reporting......no link,still looking

[Leghorn21]

14. Here, 81

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-tax-bill-house-passes-tax-reform-bill-live-updates/

Edit to add some text:

Last Updated Dec 19, 2017 4:59 PM EST

The House will revote on the bill it passed to much fanfare Tuesday afternoon, fearing procedural violations in the version it already passed.

The vote will likely take place Wednesday. The Senate is still expected to take up the bill later Tuesday evening.

Several provisions in the House-passed overhaul appear to violate the procedural rules of the Senate, according to Democrats, and the Senate will need to vote on whether to waive the rules and keep those provisions in the bill, which takes 60 votes. Republicans will most likely lose those votes, striking the contested provisions from the bill and changing the language of the legislation. After the bill gets a final stamp of approval in the Senate, the bill will return to the house for a revote, likely Wednesday morning.

One possible violation involves the use of 529 savings accounts for home-schooling, and private elementary and high schools. Another exempts colleges from a new endowment tax if they have fewer than 500 students paying tuition. Another objection appears technical in nature, as the bill repeals a section by its number, instead of the title of the section.

[Plucketeer]

21. "Several provisions in the House-passed overhaul appear to violate the...."

.... violate the wishes of the voters who sent them to DC.

[Freethinker65]

12. Let me guess... Orrins (Corker kickback) and Corbyns last minute additions exceed the deficit cap?

This would be almost too perfect.

[mobeau69]

13. 6. would be even sweeter.

I know, I'm dreaming, but as Rudy's father told him "dreams are what makes life tolerable".

[MadLinguist]

16. That would truly be a case of poetic justice

I fervently hope the 'snag' is due PRECISELY to busting the deficit cap!

[x1959b]

17. well,

maybe they think they should steal more $$$

[radical noodle]

49. Welcome to DU!

I hope you'll like it here.

[sandensea]

19. So now they're literally tripping over themselves to whore for their bankrollers

Someone should really make a movie out of all this.

[unblock]

27. i think lani reifenstahl made quite a few....

[sandensea]

29. Hmph.

At least those Nazis stayed in shape.

[DeminPennswoods]

22. The 2 provisions are

the Toomey tax break that applies only to Hillsdale College and the Cruz ask that adds a 529 savings acct tax break for home/private schools.

Toomey's probaby wetting himself waiting to vote for the tax cuts, so his vote won't change, it's just his "hail mary" pass to Hillsdale fell incomplete. I can't imagine Cruz won't vote for it either, but I don't know how much he had invested in his "sweetner".

[Iliyah]

23. Well Dems actually read the bill . . .

The title change also. It should be "Fuck America and that job's act toooooooooooo"

[Gothmog]

31. House will have to vote for tax-cut bill again

There was a portion of the House bill that failed under the reconciliation rules http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/365670-house-will-have-to-vote-for-tax-cut-bill-again

House Republicans will need to pass their tax plan for a second time after the Senate parliamentarian ruled that provisions in the bill violated the rules governing the legislation.

"Members are advised that we expect Senate Democrats to insist on a Byrd Point of Order on the Conference Report to Accompany H.R. 1, which is likely to be sustained," said guidance from House Majority Whip Steve Scalise's (R-La.) office, which was sent to GOP lawmakers.

"As such, Members are further advised that an additional procedural vote on the Motion to Concur is expected tomorrow morning, which will clear the bill for President Trump’s signature," his office added.

[mobeau69]

34. At least the pukes had it all thought through.

[Turbineguy]

38. It ain't easy to govern

when you can't.

[ffr]

39. Republicon priorities are not America's priorities

Link to tweet

[floppyboo]

41. msnbc is no help with this

just watching Ari - and he goes, well that's as much substance as I can take - let's just get to the politics of it." And then a bunch of opinions - and then: let's get onto the next big story: UFO's!"

This news source is really diggin a ditch. Enough already!!!

[FakeNoose]

43. They have to confirm it before they can report it on the air

I'm sure they have people checking it out right now.
By the time Chris Hayes and Rachel come on, they'll have the whole story.
Stay tuned!

[floppyboo]

44. thanks. breathe everyone! itchy dreams getting the best of me

[floppyboo]

47. didn't hear the details on Hayes or Maddow but found it

Last edited Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:51 PM - Edit history (1)

at Jimmy Dore - don't know if that's allowed here as he is quite critical of many democrats - so I won't put the link, but looks like Bernie and Ron Widen (sp?) found the loop holes. Well done! Another few days grace to get the attention of the masses and shame the GOP.

I sure hope the silence on how this delay came about isn't because Sanders deserves some credit. It sure looks like the silent treatment has returned big time on MSM.

[AllaN01Bear]

42. hem

wha wha wha.

[djacq]

45. This is what happens when you ram shot legislation

[Grammy23]

46. Dumbasses.

They were so eager to take a victory lap and pop a cork, they forgot the rules. What does that say about them?
Dumbasses.