ANA flight's mid-air U-turn could result in criminal charges
Source: ABC News
The FBI is weighing criminal charges against two brothers who got on a Tokyo-bound flight together in Los Angeles allegedly using a single boarding pass, forcing the plane to turn around mid-flight.
Law enforcement sources with knowledge of the situation told ABC News that two brothers went through security at Los Angeles International Airport on Tuesday with legitimate tickets, but were booked on separate flights to Tokyo. One had a ticket on an All Nippon Airways flight and the other was booked on a United Airlines plane.
The brothers, who have nearly identical names, were able to board the ANA flight together by apparently using a duplicate boarding pass, the sources said. It's unclear how the brother with a United Airlines ticket found a seat on the plane. Their identities have not been revealed, other than being male American citizens.
The flight crew didn't become aware of the situation until roughly four hours into the flight. The airline then decided to turn around mid-air and head back to Los Angeles.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/ana-flights-mid-air-turn-result-criminal-charges/story?id=52024185
Justice
(7,245 posts)I can see how it happened, given that boarding passes are printed on regular paper, but would think the basics of security would flag
a boarding pass code being used twice.
mainer
(12,501 posts)So this should have happened.
kimbutgar
(26,812 posts)I think someone at Ana messed up.
demopilot
(50 posts)but not again normally once you're in the gate area.
kimbutgar
(26,812 posts)demopilot
(50 posts)for good reason. One time a while back they actually KEPT every passenger's passports
when they checked in and took them all onto the plane right before closing the doors then
returned them while we taxied out. I think it was Caracas. They even did this to the crew.
Very odd.
truthisfreedom
(23,516 posts)It should have become instantly invalid like a concert ticket.
Irish_Dem
(79,859 posts)rpannier
(24,848 posts)They check the boarding pass and passport
Granted, it's Chicago to Incheon and on Korean Air, but still...
demopilot
(50 posts)he, being the ultimate and absolute authority over his aircraft, should have continued on
to Japan and let the local authorities sort out what was very obviously a confusing but no
way threatening situation.
The pilot did exactly the correct thing.
Had he proceeded, the airline would have been subject to enormous liability under Japanese law for having landed a passenger who was not on their manifest. This isn't a "let the local authorities sort it out" any more than a truck driver caught smuggling drugs into the US is.
Ms. Toad
(38,308 posts)8 hours of wasted jet fuel (not to mention hundreds(?) of people's time) is not an appropriate response to a stow-away.
There are local police/homeland security/TSA agents in every major country. Alert them to the problem. Have them take the idiots into custody upon landing and hold them temporarily until the plane is serviced, refueled, and ready to head back to the US. March them back on the plane, and send them back to the US.
demopilot
(50 posts)A truck driver who -unknowningly- brought drugs into the US wouldn't be prosecuted.
mpcamb
(3,180 posts)I agree, Keep going, Most of the people payed legitimately and deserve to get where they're going as expected. Legally and every other way kick ass on the perps, but why penalize the hundred(s) of innocents?
Scruffy1
(3,502 posts)Or at least he checked in with the company before turning around to CYA.
demopilot
(50 posts)That has always been the case. I suppose some would like to change it, I do not.
RainCaster
(13,385 posts)That is the law. Same for ships - the captain of a ship is not in charge until the pilot has left the helm.
demopilot
(50 posts)at 36000 feet over the Pacific Ocean.
NCDem777
(458 posts)flying is, I think it should be legal for passengers to lay out other passengers who do stupid shit like this. Everybody aboard gets a free shot.
demopilot
(50 posts)Salviati
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Rollo
(2,559 posts)They are ALL named George Foreman... LOL...
That or some kind of twinsters convention.
mainer
(12,501 posts)Also, from what I read in an earlier story, it was one of the brothers who brought up the issue during the flight.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)Number 1, turn around. Number 2, continue with the extra passenger. Number 3, let the passenger off.
Retrograde
(11,375 posts)There aren't a lot of places to land on a direct LA-Tokyo route without going a good deal out of the way. I suppose they could have given the guy a life vest and told him to swim back....
I was on a flight to Hawai'i once that turned back due to a medical emergency on board. We were only about 90 minutes out from SFO, but it was still a big deal for the airline, who after landing had to deal with a planeful of passengers who still needed to get where they were going, not to mention all the other delayed takeoffs and landings, since the emergency landing of our flight essentially grounded everyone else. Then the plane had to be refueled, and a new flight crew found as the original crew went over their time limit, but I'll give United credit for getting us to the original destination that same day - barely.
What I'd be interested in knowing is why didn't the flight attendants notice that their headcounts were off, and how did the guy managed to find an empty seat? I haven't been on a less than full airplane in over a decade!
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)I was thinking about 35,000 feet.
demopilot
(50 posts)FL 360, 380, etc.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)I stand corrected, 36,000 feet.
miyazaki
(2,595 posts)occasional Pacific flights use when in distress.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)I don't know if the Army Security Agency (old name) still has a listening station there.
jmowreader
(52,903 posts)Airliners use a wedge-shaped plug door. When the plane gets up to altitude, the door just jams itself shut.
This may only be me, but if I was running ANA flight ops that day I would have given serious thought to diverting the plane to Honolulu. HNL is definitely out of route if you're flying LAX-NRT, but they could have handed the two brothers over to TSA in Hawaii, bought the honest passengers lunch and refueled...most people would be okay with that, as long as they landed in Tokyo the same day so they didn't have to screw with their hotel reservations.