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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 02:04 PM Feb 2018

Mueller just made a move indicating Rick Gates has something of significant value to offer him

Source: Business Insider

Mueller's decision to drop the charges indicates Gates most likely has something of significant value to offer him.

A federal court in Alexandria, Virginia, on Tuesday granted a motion by the special counsel Robert Mueller's office to dismiss several charges brought against Rick Gates, the former deputy chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign.

The charges were brought on Thursday in a 32-count superseding indictment that accused Gates and Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, of financial crimes related to tax and bank fraud. Gates was charged with 24 counts related to tax fraud, bank fraud, bank-fraud conspiracy, and failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.

Gates pleaded guilty on Friday to one count of conspiracy against the US and one count of making a false statement to federal investigators.


Read more: https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Fmueller-charges-rick-gates-dismissed-2018-2#pt0-7049



Axios is reaching the same concluion
https://www.axios.com/mueller-dismiss-charges-rick-gates-manafort-943f1e3c-9ab7-4064-b7eb-84f6bf3fcb8b.htm
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Mueller just made a move indicating Rick Gates has something of significant value to offer him (Original Post) Julian Englis Feb 2018 OP
Is/was Carter Page an America double agent asset? Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #1
As far as I know, when he was on All in with Chris Hayes(a few times) and the Lead with Jake Tapper dewsgirl Feb 2018 #10
I think he may just be the BumbleFuck he seems to be. mackdaddy Feb 2018 #16
O. M. G. calimary Feb 2018 #17
Interesting side note - Gates had a business interest with the guy that trump just named.... George II Feb 2018 #2
Parscale is in deep w Mercers & social media & analytics Russia. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #13
I think people may be misreading this move. onenote Feb 2018 #3
That two front legal war was going to be expensive for Gates bucolic_frolic Feb 2018 #5
Your explanation sounds most plausible. Pepsidog Feb 2018 #12
I disagree with the assessment Gates 'has something of significant value to offer' Mueller... DonViejo Feb 2018 #4
Ding, ding ding... we have a winner ! WheelWalker Feb 2018 #6
Winner, winner, chicken dinner! Amsterdammer Feb 2018 #7
Yep, that is the ticket. redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #8
still more to sqeeze out perhaps. OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #15
Once dropped can Gates be recharged? griloco Feb 2018 #9
Yes Sanity Claws Feb 2018 #11
How I love The Sword of Damocles! griloco Feb 2018 #14
Whoa. You just can't make this stuff up. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #18
Yes. Part of a deal. But not the one people are suggesting. See post #3 onenote Feb 2018 #22
Oh, I see. Just a venue thing. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #23
The link as it is doesn't quite work muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #19
"conspiracy against the US " sfwriter Feb 2018 #20
k&r DesertRat Feb 2018 #21

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Is/was Carter Page an America double agent asset?
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 02:08 PM
Feb 2018

Was on CIA radar for years as he pranced around the globe meeting with Russians and all manner of people, including for his busted with Manafucked money laundering?

Why would he, his lawyers must be aghast, on Fox News, Hannity the Russian media mole no less, to hold an interview where he pleads his innocence...having just pled guilty to conspiracy?

Is Mueller/Page going to flush out Fox also?

On the other hand there is this comment thread from another left site:

Malcolm Nance's theory on why Carter Page's parade of incriminating TV appearances haven't had him arrested yet is because he's a double agent for the US and doesn't fear being arrested by us...

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Jeff Miller > KJ • an hour ago

This could be plausible because even Russian Intel wouldn't believe we sent Gilligan to entrap the entire operation.

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dewsgirl

(14,964 posts)
10. As far as I know, when he was on All in with Chris Hayes(a few times) and the Lead with Jake Tapper
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 03:17 PM
Feb 2018

(At least once) I'm pretty sure I read a few times, he had no representation. If he did, they likely had simultaneous heart attacks watching those interviews. I find Carter Page quite fascinating.

mackdaddy

(1,948 posts)
16. I think he may just be the BumbleFuck he seems to be.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 03:55 PM
Feb 2018

If he is really a double agent and just "acting" the part they should make a new category at the Oscars.

calimary

(89,129 posts)
17. O. M. G.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 04:27 PM
Feb 2018

Whether or not it’s true, that’s still one helluva quote: “even Russian intel wouldn’t believe we sent Gillian to entrap the entire operation.”

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. Interesting side note - Gates had a business interest with the guy that trump just named....
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 02:09 PM
Feb 2018

....as his 2020 campaign manager. Ooops.

onenote

(45,993 posts)
3. I think people may be misreading this move.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 02:13 PM
Feb 2018

There are a lot of moving parts here, but what needs to be taken into account is that the original indictment against Gates and Manafort was filed in October in the District Court for the District of Columbia. The motion to dismiss filed today relates to an indictment filed in the Eastern District of Virginia.

It appears that Mueller and his team ran into an issue as to whether the charges originally brought in DC were properly brought there or should have been brought in Virginia. The indictments in the two courts overlapped substantively. Rather than have indictments in two separate courts, Mueller sought to have Gates and Manafort waive any objections to certain charges being brought in DC, which allowed Mueller to drop those charges in Virginia. I don't pretend to understand all the details, but the filings with the DC court made last week expressly alluded to an agreement to dismiss the charges in the Eastern District. An explanation of some of this, albeit not completely clear, can be found here:
https://lawfareblog.com/whats-new-paul-manafort-and-rick-gates-indictment

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
4. I disagree with the assessment Gates 'has something of significant value to offer' Mueller...
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 02:22 PM
Feb 2018

rather, I think Gates gave 'something of significant value' to Mueller

redstatebluegirl

(12,767 posts)
8. Yep, that is the ticket.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 02:55 PM
Feb 2018

I can only guess what that would have to be in order to get the charges dropped, it must be big and go very high up the food chain.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. Whoa. You just can't make this stuff up.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 04:43 PM
Feb 2018

I doubt Mueller made a mistake, so it must be part of a deal. ????

muriel_volestrangler

(105,622 posts)
19. The link as it is doesn't quite work
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:02 PM
Feb 2018

I think the redirection through Google doesn't survive the substitution of the '/'s. Here's the direct link:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/mueller-charges-rick-gates-dismissed-2018-2?r=US&IR=T#pt0-7049

Could you edit the OP to use that, please?

muriel_volestrangler - LBN host

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
20. "conspiracy against the US "
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 10:30 PM
Feb 2018

There it is! He pled guilty to conspiracy.

Doesn't that open up Rico?

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