Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg called before grand jury, says he will refuse to go

[demmiblue]

Source: The Washington Post

Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg said Monday that he has been subpoenaed to appear in front of a federal grand jury investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election but that he will refuse to go.

In an interview with The Washington Post, Nunberg said he was asked to come to Washington to appear before the grand jury on Friday. He also provided a copy of his two-page grand jury subpoena seeking documents related to President Trump and nine other people, including emails, correspondence, invoices, telephone logs, calendars and “records of any kind.”

Nunberg forwarded an email from the office of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III seeking his appearance in front of the panel on Friday.

Among those that the subpoena requests information about are departing White House communications director Hope Hicks, former White House strategist Stephen K. Bannon, Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and adviser Roger Stone.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-trump-aide-sam-nunberg-called-before-grand-jury-says-he-will-refuse-to-go/2018/03/05/24c8b86a-20a9-11e8-badd-7c9f29a55815_story.html

[DesertRat]

1. He's on MSNBC Live with Katy Tur right now

"I think it would be really funny if they arrested me."

[SummerSnow]

4. Well lets wait when he changes his tune when Mueller threatens

him with years in prison.lol

[SayItLoud]

93. Mueller will not threaten

He will just have him arrested one early morning. I just hope that someone tips off the media so we can see this take down.

[dhol82]

111. Oh, yes, please

I want to see what the idiot looks like doing the perp walk.

[SummerSnow]

119. in his pajamas.lol

[Nwgirl503]

8. I'm dying listening to him!!!

"I don't feel like spending the time" is one answer to give Mueller.

[DesertRat]

16. I know! And he won't stop talking...

[demmiblue]

13. Lol... I am listening.

He is an 'interesting' person, to be sure. I remember his totally drug-addled interview with Joy Reid. He seems guilty as hell, and Katy Tur is really drawing him out!

[DesertRat]

23. Roger Stone is his mentor

[demmiblue]

33. Damn, Katy Tur should have kept him on the line well into Kasie's segment.

That was gold!

[DesertRat]

38. I was shocked that she ended the interview

This was remarkable: When she asked if he thinks Mueller has something on trump, Nunberg answers: "I think he may. I think he may have done something."

[MelissaB]

42. Holy shit!

We need to order lots of extra popcorn.

[DesertRat]

52. Nunberg's attorney during that exchange

[Cha]

99. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I can relate

Mahalo,DR I gotta have that.. it makes me laugh at myself!

[DeminPennswoods]

59. Stone must be embarassed

nt

[C Moon]

20. This is a prime example of how the right wing feel entitled to be above the law.

Fucking pisses me off.
This has got to change.
Start to make white collar crime punishment harsher.
Let's fill our prisons with these types rather than someone carrying marijuana.

[pandr32]

31. +1

[red dog 1]

63. + 2

[gopiscrap]

78. absolutely

[marble falls]

26. Coincidentally I will find it pretty funny myself in that they will have him arrested and then ....

dragged in front of the grand jury where he will find out he the lawyer he obviously hasn't talked to yet will be of limited use and he's probably looking at a bunch of contempt citations. If they'll jail a Mennonite witness who refuses to testify in a case because she doesn't believe in the death penalty, they'll lock his guilty as hell ass up. Please send the cops after him. I hope he pees his pants.

I bet Don jr pees his too when he gets to feel cold steel on his wrists.

[flibbitygiblets]

106. We have a similar sense of humor, we three! I also find the thought of him being arrested HILARIOUS

Maybe he can finance his legal bills by doing a DirecTV commercial?

"Some people like getting arrested for ripping up a Grand Jury subpoena!"

[paleotn]

62. He won't think it's funny...

when he's staring at the walls of a jail cell for contempt.

[AZ8theist]

84. LOCK HIM UP!!!

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[rurallib]

2. didn't know you could refuse to appear when subpoenaed.

[dhol82]

5. It is ok if you do not mind a stay in prison

[rurallib]

9. that's what I thought

hope he gets a friendly cellmate.

[still_one]

116. I hope he doesn't

[LiberalLovinLug]

88. Only if those in charge enforce that law

[dhol82]

109. Mueller seems like a no nonsense kind of guy

Besides, he is probably waiting for a way to show his muscle as a little heads up of what can happen to members of this administration.

[Shipwack]

64. IOKIYAR. nt

[treestar]

114. Can't, but they could do a motion to quash

would have to have grounds, though.

[dhol82]

3. It is fascinating listening to him getting all pissy to Katy Tur

She is asking him why he changed his mind in the last 24 hours.
He is complaining that it will take him 80 hours to pull his emails together.
Also saying that trump never ever colluded with the Russians.

[Stallion]

32. Remedy is the File a Motion for Protective Order or Extend Time to Comply

he can't just refuse to comply

[FakeNoose]

34. Nunberg wasn't participating in the collusion

but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Even Bannon realized that, and Nunberg had better change his tune.

For some reason Sam Nunberg thinks Cheeto will give him a pardon, or else he thinks he's so far down the chain that Mueller won't bother with him. Wrong on both counts. He'll be in deep shit if he doesn't cooperate with the investigation.

[Ilsa]

66. I'm sure Mueller can give him

Plenty of time in a lone jail cell, no distractions, to work on those emails, under supervision, of course!

[olegramps]

79. With his cell mate Bubby the 300 pound loving type of guy.

[Ilsa]

90. Just put him in the basement with the 400 pound fellow

trump talked about.

[OldHippieChick]

6. Gotta love how all these Cheetoheads think nothing

about flouting the law as if it does not apply to them. I hope this fool refuses to go w/out discussing it w/ a lawyer and then get to watch him do the perp walk.

[Raven123]

7. Better put him on 24 hour watch

Something might happen to him before they escort him to court and off to jail.

[klook]

89. That is for sure.

Good time to avoid gift samovars.

[madaboutharry]

10. This nitwit needs to listen to his lawyer or get a new one.

The "system" doesn't work that way. You don't get to tear up a subpoena on television and flip the bird to the legal system. Nunberg needs to prepare himself for his arrest.

Listening to him now talking to Katy Tur, Nunberg sounds extremely agitated and stressed out. I think he is very afraid of something.

[malthaussen]

11. Refusing a subpoena?

Good luck with that.

Although from the article, it appears that the subpoena was for his documents, not his corpus; the latter was only requested to appear in a letter.

-- Mal

[C Moon]

29. Good point. Maybe he's just trying to heat up the Trump following.

[cstanleytech]

12. Unless he has a valid reason to take the 5th on grounds that it might actually incriminate

himself on something (which should not be a concern for an innocent person) he will almost certainly have to appear or he will be arrested.

[marylandblue]

39. To take the 5th, he actually has to appear

and take the 5th on each individual question. He can't just not show up.

[RandySF]

14. What is the penalty?

[pnwmom]

17. They could toss him into jail till he complies, just like Susan McDougal. n/t

[Me.]

24. Or Judith Miller

[Javaman]

37. and it won't be the happy resort type jail either. nt

[DesertRat]

18. Jail. nt

[pnwmom]

15. 'Let them arrest me." Yes, Mueller, please do! This should be fun. n/t

[DesertRat]

19. "I'm not going to go to jail."

We'll see about that.

[beachbum bob]

104. contempt of court, no trial, no bail. Its his ass in fucking in jail with all sorts of guys

waiting to make this guy their "pal" if you know what I mean


I fucking love it

its not a choice to appear or recognize a subpoena idiot,,,

[SergeStorms]

96. Mueller needs to make an example of this clown.....

just so the other Trump enablers know he means business!

I hate Republicans, I really, really, really, really really do!

[nocalflea]

21. Theater. For whose benefit ?

[dhol82]

22. OMG - Katy just asked the perfect question

“Did you suddenly find something in your emails in the last 24hours?”

😬

[Roland99]

86. Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

[Stallion]

25. Story Says "Subpoenaed"-He will be Arrested if he Doesn't Show

....or at least file a motion/objection explaining the reasons he refuses to attend

In Texas it would likely be a bench warrant

This isn't a House intelligence Committee non enforced invitation-its a Court authorized order mandating his attendance

[C_U_L8R]

27. Wow, Katy has a live one !!!

OMG... this is hilarious. What a dope. Mueller will have his way with this guy.

[DesertRat]

28. Katy Tur is masterful!!

[riversedge]

50. This lady has the best response....

Link to tweet

[bucolic_frolic]

30. Send in the Repo Man

Courts have power and they use it. That's what make us a system of laws and not men.

[Motley13]

35. his voice sounded like he is afraid of someone

[dhol82]

43. He really did start to get a bit hysterical

When she was asking him if anybody told him to not cooperate he seemed to hesitate before saying no.
He was obviously flustered by the whole thing.
I hope Roger Stone goes down with this also.

[Javaman]

36. they all love to play "the defiant one" until they aren't...

they will get him into a quiet room, lay out all the evidence against him, some of it embarrassing, then patiently wait while he tries and squirms his way out. Then his lawyer will whisper in his ear and the magic words will come out, "lets make a deal".

they all crumble. it's just a matter if it's a souffle or a 2 year old pound cake, but they all do.

[riversedge]

40. Let him arrest me, Nunberg said. Mr. Mueller should understand I am not going in on Friday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-trump-aide-sam-nunberg-called-before-grand-jury-says-he-will-refuse-to-go/2018/03/05/24c8b86a-20a9-11e8-badd-7c9f29a55815_story.html

“Let him arrest me,” Nunberg said. “Mr. Mueller should understand I am not going in on Friday.”

Nunberg said he was planning to go on Bloomberg TV and tear up the subpoena.


It is unclear what actions Mueller would take if Nunberg does not appear in front of the grand jury. Nunberg, an early campaign aide, was dismissed by Trump and no longer is in his good graces.

“The Russians and Trump did not collude,” Nunberg said. “Putin is too smart to collude with Donald Trump.”

“I’m not spending 80 hours going over my emails with Roger Stone and Steve Bannon and producing them,” Nunberg said. “Donald Trump won this election on his own. He campaigned his ass off. And there is nobody who hates him more than me.”

[Bernardo de La Paz]

97. Putin too smart, but tRump not smart enough to avoid colluding with Russians. May have had no choice

Putin is too smart to be too obvious. Especially because he knows tRump is not smart. So he would have insulated himself with a layer or two.

Plus, they may have Kompromat on tRump; money laundering, crooked deals, tax evasion, sexual embarrassments, etc. Putin's pet oligarchs may have been making tRump increasingly beholden to them over the years and decades.

They may have made him an offer he could not refuse.

It might not have been collusion but maybe coercion.

[pnwmom]

41. Step 1: Nunberg has interview, praises Muller investigation. Step 2: he leaks the "hit list."

(we don't know this yet, but who doesn't think he was the leaker?)

Step 3: someone sees Trump's name is on the list.

Step 4. Someone contacts Nunberg and offers excellent reasons why Nunberg shouldn't comply.

Step 5. Nunberg announces that he won't comply with the subpoena.

[dhol82]

44. Sounds good

[riversedge]

45. Sam Nunberg,....told MSNBC that it would be "really funny" if Mueller arrested him

Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg says he will not comply with special counsel Mueller's subpoena

Sam Nunberg, who was an advisor on Trump's 2016 campaign, told MSNBC that it would be "really funny" if Mueller arrested him.

Kevin Breuninger | Mike Calia
Published 11 Mins Ago Updated 2 Mins Ago CNBC.com






ummm. times up Nunberg. It is #Mueller Time now.



Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg says he will not comply with special counsel Mueller's subpoena

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/05/ex-trump-aide-nunberg-will-refuse-mueller-subpoena.html


Sam Nunberg, who was an advisor on Trump's 2016 campaign, told MSNBC that it would be "really funny" if Mueller arrested him.

Kevin Breuninger | Mike Calia
Published 11 Mins Ago Updated 2 Mins Ago

............................A former aide to Donald Trump said Monday that he would refuse to comply with special counsel Robert Mueller's subpoena in the Russia probe.

Sam Nunberg, who was an advisor on Trump's 2016 campaign, told MSNBC that it would be "really funny" if Mueller arrested him for ignoring the grand jury subpoena. Laughing, he said that "my lawyer is about to dump me right now."

.....................

[Gore1FL]

53. I know I'll laugh. nt

[Paladin]

46. Nunberg refers pridefully to Roger Stone as his "mentor."

That ought to give you an idea what sort of mental/professional/moral standards we're dealing with, here.

[dhol82]

110. Yeah, like trump and Roy Cohn

That was a beautiful friendship.

[riversedge]

47. I'm prepared to bet Special Counsel Mueller's team already has Sam Nunberg's emails Preet Bharara

Preet Bharara
‏Verified account @PreetBharara
10m10 minutes ago

Even if you have someone's emails from other parties to them or from the service provider, you ask for them anyway. Among other things you learn a lot when people selectively disclose.
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Preet Bharara
‏Verified account @PreetBharara
13m13 minutes ago

I'm prepared to bet Special Counsel Mueller's team already has Sam Nunberg's emails
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[demmiblue]

74. Preet:

Preet Bharara Verified account @PreetBharara

Sam Nunberg, do you do podcasts?

4:10 PM - 5 Mar 2018

[Satch59]

48. Was listening in the car...that was wild...

Wished Katy kept him going...he's a nutcase and she was on the verge of breaking him open.

I bet Preet is right, Mueller probably has them...would love to see him hauled off to jail.

[Julian Englis]

49. Mueller probably has Nunberg's emails anyway--Mueller isn't fishing. n/t

[riversedge]

51. No. This was not a #SNL skit.....FULL INTERVIEW: Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg refusing to comply w

Janet Shan
‏ @hinterlandg
3m3 minutes ago

Janet Shan Retweeted Katy Tur

No. This was not a #SNL skit.

Janet Shan added,
Katy Tur
Verified account @KatyTurNBC
FULL INTERVIEW: Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg refusing to comply with Mueller subpoena https://www.msnbc.com/katy-tur/watch/former-trump-aide-sam-nunberg-refusing-to-comply-with-mueller-subpoena-1177240643765 …

Link to tweet

[Stonepounder]

54. Can you say "Perp Walk"? n/t

[riversedge]

57. Look at this part of the interview. Is Kur saying Numberg was already interviewd by

someone--special counsel??? she said--you sat with him.

Sorry, I have to go out for a bit.

Link to tweet

[liberaltrucker]

60. In 5 days, it will be

[Julian Englis]

55. Clip of Nunberg on MSNBC saying he thinks tRump may had done something!

From twitter:

Link to tweet

[RandomAccess]

69. To me, this was an admission that he absolutely knows something

or perhaps even accomplice-level guilt on his part.

[bucolic_frolic]

56. Is he being used as a trial balloon?

Testing the resolve of the investigation to see if Trump can also refuse? In other words, getting the public used to the idea

[C_U_L8R]

65. More like a trial buffoon.

But it wouldn't surprise if Trump and Stone were behind this bit of chaos-making ratfuckery.

[Peachhead22]

58. Maybe we should start a pool..

...on when the no-knock warrant for Nunberg's computers, records, etc. will be served. The only reason I can think that Mueller won't go medieval on Nunberg's a** (immediately) is Nunberg has secretly turned and the histonics were a ruse done with Mueller's blessing.

Otherwise Mueller just got painted in to a corner. After the Katy Tur interview, Mueller has to make an example of Nunberg.

[Corgigal]

72. That's what I thinking.

No Knock, No Knock

Who's there?

America.

Happening at Nunberg's address this weekend.

[paleotn]

61. The the US Marshals will pay him a visit.

And take his ass to jail for contempt. You can plead the 5th, but you still have to show up.

[meow2u3]

67. Mueller is going to end up treating Nunberg like he did Manafort

The Feds will surprise Nunberg just as he did Manafort: with a warrant served shortly before dawn, with the rude awakening this criminal deserves.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

101. I'd have the marshalls already rolling as Nunberg is appointed to show up

No show: Let a time marker pre-agreed with the marshalls pass with no signal to turn back.

Show but no communications materials: no turnback signal.

Show but only talking possible "deals": hold off several blocks away.

Show up with a complete set of materials: "Turn back."

Waiting till dawn the next day is too long. Though if he is an idiot he may have already attempted to erase devices.

[red dog 1]

68. Does he think Trump can pardon him before he even appears before a grand jury?

Is he that stupid?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

102. Trump can and tRump could be that stupid, but he wont because he will dither.

It would be the stupidest thing for tRump to do to pardon him now because he would have no 5th Amendment shield and would have to sing like a canary; long, sweetly and loudly.

[iluvtennis]

70. Lock. His. Ass. Up. Then. On contempt of court. Wy do these sh#tholes get a break.

[Still In Wisconsin]

71. OK, then clap him in leg irons and haul his ass in.

[Grammy23]

73. I dont know what is up with Nunberg but I do know this.

He just made his life a whole lot more complicated.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

75. Popehat is beside himself.

Retweeted by FineWereFineEverythingsFineHat: https://twitter.com/Popehat

Because this interview was so bonkers between @KatyTurNBC and Sam Nunberg, I'm coming out of transcription retirement.

Nunberg: "What does Bob Muller need to see my e-mails when I send Roger and Steve clips and we talk about how much we hate people?"

Link to tweet

[rainin]

76. Not asked: WHAT ARE YOU HIDING??

It doesn't take 80 hours to collect emails. At the most, it takes 5 minutes -- start to finish. SAY THAT KATY! Search emails and copy onto a drive. 5 minutes.

His admission that it would take 80 hours is admitting that he needs to sift through them, ostensibly to select which ones to send. That's not an option! He must send them ALL. That's 5 minutes.

I know it's easy to think of questions from my couch, but I wish she had made this clear.

He wants to hide his conversation with Steve Bannon and Roger Stone from Mueller for a reason. What is he hiding?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

103. Also not asked: who is pressuring you to clam up and what do they have over you? . . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

107. Your assumption is likely completely broken.

If he's like many high flying hard chargers, 80 hours might be true but still no excuse.

For one thing, the subpoena does NOT LIMIT it to emails. "All communications". Including business cards with a note on the back.

Many hard chargers are too busy to practice good handling policies and may have copies of emails on sidelined computers and various states of disordered emails on multiple laptop computers, desktops, tablets, corporate servers, government servers, pocket computers (w phone apps), etc. They may have printed some or many out and filed them in various locations before deleting them from the computer. If a secretary left a post-it note about a key appointment, that has to be found and offered up. Overlook more than one of those and it starts to look like non-compliance and subsequent charges.

ALL the materials have to be found and turned over.

Regardless, any amount of time is no excuse. If he needs more time or help, Mueller would instantly make available agents to help him sift through stuff or do it for him.

[rainin]

117. I concede your point that it is not as easy as I have said.

However, is it really unreasonable that it could be accomplished in one work day? The request is very specific. Spend the morning locating all the hard drives. (We're talking about 2015 so it's not like he's going back 7 years for a tax audit.) Locate all the files. Locate your daytimer for 2015, 2016, 2017. Go to your phone provider and download all the monthly bills if that is asked.

Seriously, the whole world can see this has nothing to do with not wanting to spend time. He knows his emails are incriminating, either to him, to Bannon, or to Stone. He has been talking, talking, talking. He is afraid he is going to be caught in a lie.

This is a very scared man who realizes that these emails are going to incriminate him. I can't believe what I am watching. Unreal.

[dhol82]

112. She actually did ask him, and I paraphrase

“What did you learn in the last 24 hours?”

He had told her the other day that he thought the investigation was valid and would be productive and was worth what it would cost.
Obviously, while going through some of his emails he must have run across something that he thought was damning. Either that or he got a phone call from somebody last night who advised him that, if he wanted to live a longer life, he would refuse to talk.

[rainin]

118. Very different question IMO.

Something in his emails will incriminate him or Stone. Possibly he lied and will lose his immunity if his lies are discovered. I don't think he learned anything in 24 hours. I believe he thought he was done and his 6-hour interview with Mueller was the end of the story for him. He left the interview pleased with everything. The fact that he kept explaining his actions by how close he was to Stone (a father figure) suggests he knows the emails will get someone in deep trouble. We don't know who, but he has something to hide.

Hence, the question, "What are you hiding"?

[Kablooie]

77. I wonder how much Trump paid him.

Must be quite a lot to risk prison like that.

Of course Trump must have promised to pardon him too.

That’s the only reason I can see that someone would do this for Trump.

More grist for Mueller.

Interesting to see how this plays out.

[Cadfael]

80. Dont those emails listed sound like the ones in yesterdays Axios story?

[dhol82]

113. I think they were. He was the one who spilled the beans.

His subpoena has been all over the place.

[Autumn]

81. So we're clear. If subpoenaed to appear at a Federal grand jury it's a I'll go or not depending

on my mood choice? Okay. This should be fun.

[Enoki33]

82. For him to do something this stupid he has got to be either

hiding something, or protecting someone. Unless he is that desperate to somehow be relevant.

[czarjak]

83. L-O-V-I-N-G...

IT!!!!!!!

[Roland99]

85. Why not? If there is nothing to hide, prove it, douchebag!

[democrank]

87. Just about a week ago

Nunberg was on MSNBC (Ari's show?) talking about how taxpayers were getting their money's worth out of the Mueller investigation. What changed all of a sudden?

Perhaps he reviewed his communications after Mueller's recent request and found something he thought might be problematic and maybe someone is secretly advising him not to cooperate.

[duforsure]

91. He's telling Mueller NO,

Watch how long before he's made an example of things NOT to do to Robert Mueller. He could just be moving his lips and not going to do anything, and will go. Distraction maybe?

[SayItLoud]

92. Here comes the pardon

Parade!

[Honeycombe8]

94. So this is what they're going to do, when it gets too close. Contempt of Court?

Can't he be jailed? I think so. A simple fine won't work.

[SunSeeker]

95. Can't wait for his perp walk!

[Akoto]

98. What's odd to me is...

He could've simply showed up, taken the 5th on each question, and not had the dawn arrest he will doubtless be receiving now. What was so bad that he couldn't even show up?

Further, on Katy Tur's show just today, he outright said that he believes Trump did something during the campaign and Mueller knows it. When he was asked to elaborate, he said he couldn't because "you had to be there."

If I were Mueller, that would make me even *more* motivated to go after the guy.

[beachbum bob]

100. lol...we will see the first trump official in jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its not an option to not show up to a grand jury...ya ya ya....contempt of court ruling and mandatory jail time until he appears.


We gotta fucking love it

[demmiblue]

105. Live on Ari Melber now!

[flibbitygiblets]

108. He mentioned Roger Stone twice. Once as a "mentor", then as "they want me to insinuate that

Roger Stone colluded with Julian Assange". So he's protecting Stone, and apparently is willing to go to jail to protect his "mentor".

I don't think this has anything to do with tRump, at least not for this jagoff. It's about Stone, who is "like family" to him. If Stone were innocent, we wouldn't be seeing this histrionics.

[dhol82]

115. That sounds logical.

Stone is one major mofo that has been creating havoc for forty years.
He is pure evil.
I will assume that Nunberg wishes to be his successor.