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groundloop

(11,519 posts)
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 06:43 PM Mar 2018

Trump to seek to "harden" schools against shootings

Source: CBS News

President Trump's plan to combat school shootings will include a call on states to increase the minimum age for purchasing assault weapons and an effort to "harden" schools so they're less vulnerable to attacks.

White House spokesman Raj Shah says the president will not advocate "universal" background checks, but will reiterate his support for a bill that would promote better information-sharing. The president will also be convening a task force to further study the issue.

"There's going to be a series of proposals," Shah said on ABC's "This Week" in an interview Sunday. "Some will be legislative, some will be administrative and some will be recommendations for states as well as a task force to study this issue in more depth and make more additional policy recommendations. So it's going to be consistent with what the president has talked about."

The long-awaited recommendations are expected to be laid out in more detail by the White House on Sunday evening, nearly a month after the deadly school shooting in Parkland, Florida, that left 17 students and staff dead.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-to-seek-to-harden-schools-against-shootings/



Further down in the article it's said that 45* supports universal background checks, while in the second paragraph we're told he's not advocating for that.

As far as "hardening schools", first off, what the hell does that mean? I'm quite certain 45* doesn't know, and to me it's nothing more than empty words to make it sound like he's doing something. Furthermore, if there's going to be any modification to school buildings it's going to cost money and with the repub tax giveaway anything as far reaching as this will be out of the question.

Basically this is more of the same flip flops we expect from 45*.... say whatever he thinks his current audience wants to hear while accomplishing nothing.

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Trump to seek to "harden" schools against shootings (Original Post) groundloop Mar 2018 OP
Wha hell! Plucketeer Mar 2018 #1
More stringent locking protocols. Igel Mar 2018 #2
According to the National Center for Educational Statistics, elleng Mar 2018 #3
Harden Schools. LOL kairos12 Mar 2018 #4
Hard to harden teach1st Mar 2018 #5
But a potential student shooter will know all the soft spots. rickford66 Mar 2018 #6
Says the soft tub of lard Blue Owl Mar 2018 #7
Just need to post a brave member of the Trump family at every school. tclambert Mar 2018 #8
We need to "harden" public schools against lack of funding, and those who aren't educators ehrnst Mar 2018 #9
He's so easily bullied by the NRA IronLionZion Mar 2018 #10

Igel

(35,305 posts)
2. More stringent locking protocols.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 07:15 PM
Mar 2018

Metal detectors.

More school cops.

Perhaps allowing teachers to concealed carry.

Perhaps altering the insides of the school to be more secure. Some classrooms are open, without walls. Some doors can't easily be secured. Some schools may not have CCTV on their campus or in their halls.

An extreme case would be one district I know where student IDs have RFID chips. They're registered every time they get on a bus, time and location; they're registered when they get off the bus, time and location. And once in the school, in case of a lockdown drill the administration can poll to see who's where, finding the stray kid in the hall, in the bathroom, or hiding in a cupboard or closet.

The same school has a clear glass buffer entry, so that you walk into the school and find yourself in a clear, bullet-proof glass room. You talk to somebody behind a glass panel to say why you're there and then you get buzzed in through. During the entire time, a school cop is there behind a bullet-proof screen, just in case. (And this is suburbia, just a rough bit of suburbia.)

elleng

(130,902 posts)
3. According to the National Center for Educational Statistics,
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 07:25 PM
Mar 2018

there were about 90,000 elementary schools operating in the United States between 2013 and 2014; both private and public.

kairos12

(12,861 posts)
4. Harden Schools. LOL
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 07:27 PM
Mar 2018

You would have to harden parking lots, school buses, it would never end.

Drumpt should read up on the Maginot Line.

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
5. Hard to harden
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 07:35 PM
Mar 2018

I watched the experts come into a few of the schools I've worked at. They can really lock down a front office entrance if they want to and if they have the funds. But go around to the back of the school, to the PE field. Chain link fences, four-feet high, separating the school from roads, houses, and apartments. Yeah, you can harden that if you want using razor wire and higher fences, but even then these are still chain link fences through which one can easily point a weapon should one be disposed.

Hardening schools, while necessary (if only to protect them from temporarily deranged parents) is fine. But the only thing that will really work in the long-run is hardening our population against weapons on steroids and against weapons in the hands of those who shouldn't have weapons.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
6. But a potential student shooter will know all the soft spots.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 07:44 PM
Mar 2018

They will know all the emergency plans etc. This whole exercise will encourage more clever potential shooters.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
8. Just need to post a brave member of the Trump family at every school.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 09:51 PM
Mar 2018

You know, someone who would run into an active shooter situation, even if unarmed. Well, so long as the old bone spurs don't flare up.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
9. We need to "harden" public schools against lack of funding, and those who aren't educators
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:08 AM
Mar 2018

having say over what happens in schools...

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