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BumRushDaShow

(128,717 posts)
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:03 PM Mar 2018

UPDATE: Republicans find no evidence of collusion or Russian preference for Trump

Source: Washington Post

House Intelligence Committee Republicans have completed a draft report in their year-long Russia probe that states they found no evidence President Trump or anyone affiliated with him colluded with Russian officials to affect the outcome of the 2016 elections, a conclusion expected to incite backlash from committee Democrats.

Republicans also determined that while the Russian government did pursue active measures to interfere in the 2016 election, they did not do so with the intention of helping Trumps campaign, contradicting the findings of the intelligence community.

We've found no evidence of collusion, Rep. K. Michael Conaway (R-Tex.), who is in charge of the Russia probe, told reporters on Monday. He noted that the worst they had uncovered was perhaps some bad judgment, inappropriate meetings, inappropriate judgment at taking meetings such as the June 2016 meeting with a Russian lawyer in Trump Tower, which Conaway said shouldn't have happened, no doubt about that.

But only Tom Clancy or Vince Flynn or someone else like that could take this series of inadvertent contacts with each other, meetings, whatever and weave that into some sort of a fiction, page turner spy thriller, Conaway said. Were not dealing in fiction, were dealing in facts and we found no evidence of any collusion.


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-find-no-evidence-of-collusion-or-russian-preference-for-trump/2018/03/12/28c2cd44-2639-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html



Original headline/post -

Full Title: Republicans on House panel say their Trump-Russia probe concluded with no evidence of collusion. Democrats expected to disagree.

Republican members of the House Intelligence Committee have also determined that while the Russian government did try to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, it did not do so with the intention of helping President Trumps campaign, contradicting the U.S. intelligence community's findings.

The conclusion is at odds with the impression held by the panels Democrats, who have interviewed the same 73 witnesses and scrutinized the same documents.

Rep. K. Michael Conaway (R-Tex), who has overseen the committee's investigation, said the Republican-authored report would be shared with Democrats on Tuesday, for their comments, additions and objections. We found nothing with which to make a criminal referral to [the Justice Department] on, he added.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.


New York Times article -

Despite Muellers Push, House Republicans Declare No Evidence of Collusion

WASHINGTON Even as the special counsel expands his inquiry and pursues criminal charges against at least four Trump associates, House Intelligence Committee Republicans said Monday they have found no evidence of collusion between Donald J. Trumps presidential campaign and Russia to sway the 2016 election.

Representative K. Michael Conaway of Texas, who is leading the investigation, said committee Republicans agreed with the conclusions of American intelligence agencies that Russia had interfered with the election, but they broke with the agencies on one crucial point: that the Russians had favored Mr. Trumps candidacy.

The bottom line: The Russians did commit active measures against our election in 16, and we think they will do that in the future, Mr. Conaway said. But, he added, We disagree with the narrative that they were trying to help Trump.

The announcement brought to an abrupt end to one of two remaining bipartisan investigations into the topic on Capitol Hill and is sure to provoke sharp objections from committee Democrats, who have been warning Republicans not to close the matter. Republicans have decided to end the inquiry even as new evidence has emerged that the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, is pursuing new lines of inquiry related to the case that have been left largely unexplored by the committee.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/12/us/politics/house-intelligence-trump-russia.html


Edit to add - from Conway: "perhaps some bad judgment".
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UPDATE: Republicans find no evidence of collusion or Russian preference for Trump (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 OP
So they want us to fight each other? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #1
We are going to have to take the House back BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #3
Sure. The Koch brothers and the rest of the billionaire parasites love it PatrickforO Mar 2018 #52
That's the real bottom line we need to focus on $$$ MarcA Mar 2018 #63
THANK YOU!!! It has always been a class/$$ war. DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #72
See ! It turned out just like we said it would at the beginning underpants Mar 2018 #2
Next They're Going After Mueller SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #4
Their goal is to ensure they have FIXED elections for years to come. LenaBaby61 Mar 2018 #59
Sounds legit. NT Adrahil Mar 2018 #5
All doormats of the russian mole Cha Mar 2018 #6
They are bought and paid for. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #13
"Buy one, get the rest free.".. Cha Mar 2018 #19
"Cheaper by the dozens" sheshe2 Mar 2018 #25
No, I suspect more than just tRump* is owned by the Kremlin... Raster Mar 2018 #33
That is why I said buy one and get the rest free. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #36
I could not agree more. THEY ARE ALL COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA. Raster Mar 2018 #41
so how long before the Russian army comes yuiyoshida Mar 2018 #67
"Sold their souls" sheshe2 Mar 2018 #69
And that is just a beginning... Raster Mar 2018 #79
Government Of Putin Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #47
How long until the Orange Asshole start bloviating on Twitter about this!? Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #7
3...2..1. sheshe2 Mar 2018 #27
Didnt take long did it? Docreed2003 Mar 2018 #81
When asked for comment, Robert Mueller responded, Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2018 #8
Who would have guessed it. They think collusion is two cars hitting each other. pwb Mar 2018 #9
Okay, so now try it again, without blindfolds and earplugs. dchill Mar 2018 #10
yep and maybe bluestarone Mar 2018 #12
With cheese! dchill Mar 2018 #31
Gasp! DavidDvorkin Mar 2018 #11
Hahaha. They did a fair job trying to not find evidence... Freethinker65 Mar 2018 #14
They stink of desperation - it won't save the special election tomorrow Doodley Mar 2018 #15
Adam Schiff will have plenty to say NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #16
A fifth column HootieMcBoob Mar 2018 #17
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Mar 2018 #29
My thoughts exactly. Taraman Mar 2018 #57
Of course not.. they wont' dig deep enough to implicate themselves nini Mar 2018 #18
can you make an edit to indicate HOUSE Republicans? The Senate investigation is ongoing hlthe2b Mar 2018 #20
So thats it then... MAGA! Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #21
They're Gonna Look Mighty Foolish When Mueller Comes ...... global1 Mar 2018 #22
The point is, this is a signal... regnaD kciN Mar 2018 #78
You Know That Mueller Will Back Up Any Of His Findings With Copius Amounts Of.... global1 Mar 2018 #84
If the Russians had tried to interfere, Cold War Spook Mar 2018 #23
i'm not a cartoonist barbtries Mar 2018 #24
I was thinking H2O Man Mar 2018 #26
Need many more investigations and eleven hours of testimony from the Donald. keithbvadu2 Mar 2018 #28
They couldn't even get witnesses to answer questions mchill Mar 2018 #30
. TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #32
+1 ffr Mar 2018 #35
+1,000,000 lamp_shade Mar 2018 #45
!!!! BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #58
Well...That ends all of that. ..Nothing to see here laserhaas Mar 2018 #34
That said, they didn't bring up Conspiracy Against the United States. ffr Mar 2018 #37
I am shocked. Nt doc03 Mar 2018 #38
Fuck those cowardly traitors. Traitors used to be summarily Lint Head Mar 2018 #39
I thought that this was The Onion! WHA??? NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #40
I want to hear what Schiff says. Now that they are closing down, Frustratedlady Mar 2018 #42
Schiff should ask Mueller to investigate Nunes flibbitygiblets Mar 2018 #64
I hope so. The Republicans were so in-your-face, no one could argue the point. Frustratedlady Mar 2018 #86
This is an Onion Headline, right? n/t aggiesal Mar 2018 #43
RepubliCONMen refuse to follow the MONEY. They know where it leads. Mike CONaway brings a CON trick. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #44
Here is TPM's take on this "House Intel GOP Jams Out Its Russia Findings: No Collusion!" NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #46
"Next phase" meaning BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #48
Republicans can't find oil in Texas or ice in Alaska IronLionZion Mar 2018 #49
That should relieve Jill Stein and Glenn Greenwald........... still_one Mar 2018 #50
The midterms can't come soon enough for me True_Blue Mar 2018 #51
Can someone remind me how long they investigated Benghazi? Seems like they are quitting early here. LonePirate Mar 2018 #53
"Benghazi" had replaced "Fast and Furious" BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #55
LMFAO 2left4u Mar 2018 #54
Final straw was Hope Hicks admitting she lied for Trump and then resigning from WH wishstar Mar 2018 #56
"We see no evidence of collusion." SeattleVet Mar 2018 #60
Everyone in America knows it's a Political Whitewash bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #61
But they did find some polyps that ought to be looked into. NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2018 #62
as if they were looking for any. olddad56 Mar 2018 #65
Boy! Is Mueller going to surprise them !! yuiyoshida Mar 2018 #66
Look how quickly they took care of this. How long did Benghazi go on? C Moon Mar 2018 #68
It makes you wonder how many of the GOP are on the indictment list. Vinca Mar 2018 #70
Memo to: Conway, "Russia, if you're listening..." Hassler Mar 2018 #71
But, but, her leaked emails...! rlegro Mar 2018 #73
I'm waiting for the report MurrayDelph Mar 2018 #74
Kangaroo Court Whitewashes Trump. Nt. BlueIdaho Mar 2018 #75
Okay...let's try this a different way jmowreader Mar 2018 #76
If Conway wants to see bad judgement he should look in the mirror Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2018 #77
GOP House message to Trump: No impeachment coming from us, "Boss," so full speed ahead! ancianita Mar 2018 #80
Complete and utter bullshit. SergeStorms Mar 2018 #82
Oh... hurple Mar 2018 #83
I'm so endlessly dejected over all this. OliverQ Mar 2018 #85
Does This Vindicate Bernie Sanders Vote Against Russia Sanctions? TomCADem Mar 2018 #87

BumRushDaShow

(128,717 posts)
3. We are going to have to take the House back
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:08 PM
Mar 2018

and then we will be Chairs of all of these committees and will probably have to start all over....

PatrickforO

(14,566 posts)
52. Sure. The Koch brothers and the rest of the billionaire parasites love it
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:22 PM
Mar 2018

when we fight each other. Keeps us from seeing who is really picking our pocket and who is the real enemy of freedom. And it isn't the Republicans - they are just paid shills. Evil yes, but the REAL enemy, the (old, white, liver spotted, grasping) men behind the curtain is the big capitalist billionaire parasites.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
63. That's the real bottom line we need to focus on $$$
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:55 PM
Mar 2018

The trump circus is bad but the real important item is who is profiting.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
72. THANK YOU!!! It has always been a class/$$ war.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:27 PM
Mar 2018

Discrimination and prejudice, while terrible and sickening, is CAUSED by 1%er exploitation. We must admit to these contrived differences and address the root causes. Time for a NEW new deal!

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
4. Next They're Going After Mueller
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:08 PM
Mar 2018

Don't think they won't. Their goal is to ensure they have FIXED elections for years to come.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
59. Their goal is to ensure they have FIXED elections for years to come.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:37 PM
Mar 2018
THIS ^^^

Thuglicans (In the Congress) are definitely going to go after Mueller, and as you said they want a one-party rule permanently.

sheshe2

(83,710 posts)
13. They are bought and paid for.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:17 PM
Mar 2018

Putin got them all for the price of one. Buy one, get the rest free.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
19. "Buy one, get the rest free."..
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:25 PM
Mar 2018

So true dat! Cheaper by the dozens.

Can't wait till this all blows up in their collective mole face one fine day

Raster

(20,998 posts)
33. No, I suspect more than just tRump* is owned by the Kremlin...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:40 PM
Mar 2018

...I would not be surprised to eventually find that multiple GOP Congresspersons are either owned or purchased by the Kremlin.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
41. I could not agree more. THEY ARE ALL COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:53 PM
Mar 2018

The GOP has sold their souls to Putin* and the Kremlin.

yuiyoshida

(41,830 posts)
67. so how long before the Russian army comes
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:06 PM
Mar 2018

along with their soviet subs in all our harbors... CHECKMATE!

sheshe2

(83,710 posts)
69. "Sold their souls"
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:15 PM
Mar 2018

Yes they did. They are treasonous bastards that need to be voted out as an enemy to the United States.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
47. Government Of Putin
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:03 PM
Mar 2018

McConnell certainly acted as if he knew the fix was in when he held up a Supreme Court nominee for an unprecedented length of time. Ryan hushed his comrades in that infamous tape.

It does not stretch belief that the GOPers would sell out to a foreign dictator in order to remain in power. The Republican party has given us a Government Of Putin.

Freethinker65

(10,008 posts)
14. Hahaha. They did a fair job trying to not find evidence...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:20 PM
Mar 2018

The fact that many of those that testified refused to even answer any questions that would provide evidence of conspiracy or collusion is what will damn this lot of partisan GOP hacks. History will prove this committee was a sham from the beginning.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
16. Adam Schiff will have plenty to say
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:22 PM
Mar 2018

Of course he as well as we knew this shit was coming. I hope Rachel has him on tonight.

nini

(16,672 posts)
18. Of course not.. they wont' dig deep enough to implicate themselves
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:24 PM
Mar 2018

And you know a bunch of them are as guilty as 45 is.

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
20. can you make an edit to indicate HOUSE Republicans? The Senate investigation is ongoing
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:25 PM
Mar 2018

and that Nunes et al were going to do this could have been predicted long ago.

global1

(25,237 posts)
22. They're Gonna Look Mighty Foolish When Mueller Comes ......
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:26 PM
Mar 2018

out with his report contradicting their report.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
78. The point is, this is a signal...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:02 PM
Mar 2018

...that, whatever Mueller finds, House Republicans will simply say "we investigated, and respectfully disagree with the Special Council's conclusions," then do nothing.

global1

(25,237 posts)
84. You Know That Mueller Will Back Up Any Of His Findings With Copius Amounts Of....
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 12:05 AM
Mar 2018

detail - unlike the Repugs report.

Mueller can't just gloss over things like the Repugs just did. He has to be very specific in his conclusions and make sure that his "i's" dotted and the "t's" are crossed. He'll lay out the whole picture. I believe it will be very hard for the House Repugs to refute.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
23. If the Russians had tried to interfere,
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:33 PM
Mar 2018

but didn't care who won, why did they bother in the first place. There isn't any way they wanted Clinton to win.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
24. i'm not a cartoonist
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:34 PM
Mar 2018

but this begs for some good ones.

why not just write a report saying we refuse to investigate because we don't want to know.

keithbvadu2

(36,724 posts)
28. Need many more investigations and eleven hours of testimony from the Donald.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:38 PM
Mar 2018

Need many more investigations and eleven hours of testimony from the Donald.

And spend $$$millions for it all, of course.

mchill

(1,017 posts)
30. They couldn't even get witnesses to answer questions
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:38 PM
Mar 2018

because the witnesses thought the questions inappropriate.

How did they AF draw any conclusions without information?

I am livid.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
37. That said, they didn't bring up Conspiracy Against the United States.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:44 PM
Mar 2018

That, there is ample evidence of, even with this conservative cover-up.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
39. Fuck those cowardly traitors. Traitors used to be summarily
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:50 PM
Mar 2018

executed. They are enabling an enemy who wants to see the death of the American Constitution. They swore to uphold The Constitution. They have basically joined Putin and his criminal gang in his dream to takeover and destroy our way of life.

Flame away that I am exaggerating and being alarmist. Thank the gods we had people who were willing to fight and die to protect our country and keep authoritarian fascists out of our country.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
42. I want to hear what Schiff says. Now that they are closing down,
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:53 PM
Mar 2018

I think it is time to have an investigation on the Republicans involved like Nunes. Surely, an obstruction charge would be warranted.

This absolutely infuriates me. I hope Schiff stands strong (if he can) because there is definitely cover-up with the Republican side.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
64. Schiff should ask Mueller to investigate Nunes
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:56 PM
Mar 2018

Bring him all the transcripts showing which R's made a mockery of the investigation. Mueller will put that to good use.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
86. I hope so. The Republicans were so in-your-face, no one could argue the point.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:53 AM
Mar 2018

One advantage we have is Mueller and Schiff. I think both have the respect of the sane population---dismiss the Republicans who will always support Trump---and they should be able to form some kind of action to show that Republican bunch they can't pull these shenanigans. Nunes was unleashed and obviously encouraged to do whatever he needed to do to get that investigation stopped.

Let's get some solution done before the end of March. If Boulton is brought on as COS, we'll totally lose control of the whole shebang.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,013 posts)
46. Here is TPM's take on this "House Intel GOP Jams Out Its Russia Findings: No Collusion!"
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:01 PM
Mar 2018
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/house-intel-gop-rushes-out-its-russia-findings-no-collusion

The leader of the House Intelligence Committee’s probe of Russian election meddling announced Monday that the first phase of the probe was over.

“We will now be moving into the next phase of this investigation, working with the minority on a report to give the American people answers to the questions they’ve been asking for over a year,” Rep. Mike Conaway (R-TX) said in a statement, adding that “with just 238 days until the mid-term elections in November, it’s important that we give the American people the information they need to arm themselves against Russian attempts to influence our elections.” (Read Conaway’s full statement below.)

An attached one-page summary of a draft report promises “40+ initial findings that describe,” among other things, that “We have found no evidence of collusion, coordination, or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Republicans said they would share their draft with Democrats Tuesday.

The committee has faced a bitter partisan divide in its approach to the investigation. The USA Today noted Monday that Democrats on the committee will pen their own report with likely far different conclusions that Republicans’.


snip - read the rest at the link.

the comments are as always really good

BumRushDaShow

(128,717 posts)
48. "Next phase" meaning
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:10 PM
Mar 2018

to start investigating Democrats, per your article ("unmasking", "FISA abuse", etc). I.e., distract distract, slow walk, distract.

IronLionZion

(45,404 posts)
49. Republicans can't find oil in Texas or ice in Alaska
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:10 PM
Mar 2018

or any connection between easy access to guns and mass shootings

They looked everywhere so we don't have to.

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
51. The midterms can't come soon enough for me
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:17 PM
Mar 2018

Our only hope is to get the republican traitors out of office.

LonePirate

(13,413 posts)
53. Can someone remind me how long they investigated Benghazi? Seems like they are quitting early here.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:22 PM
Mar 2018

Of course, the reason for both is naked partisanship.

BumRushDaShow

(128,717 posts)
55. "Benghazi" had replaced "Fast and Furious"
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:28 PM
Mar 2018

in the marathon useless and costly investigations realm.

Soon to be followed by "Unmask-gate", "FISA-gate", and they'll probably resurrect "Did Obama 'tapp' my phone?-gate".

 

2left4u

(186 posts)
54. LMFAO
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:23 PM
Mar 2018

How is this even newsworthy and why is this being circulated at all as if any shred of credibility is associated with it.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
56. Final straw was Hope Hicks admitting she lied for Trump and then resigning from WH
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:30 PM
Mar 2018

so continuing the investigation was a liability for Trump plus it was giving a prominent platform for Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell to inform the American public with truth that Repubs want to hide.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
61. Everyone in America knows it's a Political Whitewash
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:49 PM
Mar 2018

because it's one-sided. It takes consensus to give an investigation credibility. This is a sham.

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
76. Okay...let's try this a different way
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:55 PM
Mar 2018

When Trump is proven guilty of collusion by Robert Mueller's panel, every Republican who signed onto this report can be charged with obstruction of justice.

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
82. Complete and utter bullshit.
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:33 PM
Mar 2018

But they know that. They also know that many of them will be without a job next year. I hope their protection of, and their collusion with, Trump, was worth it for them. There aren't enough lobbying jobs for all of them, especially the ones with a more visible profile. Fuck you, House GOP, fuck you!

hurple

(1,306 posts)
83. Oh...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 10:49 PM
Mar 2018

The Republicans in the House better hope against all that's holy that Mueller doesn't release a detailed account that disagrees with their assessment or they can all kiss their careers goodbye... And their reputations...

This could get fun, now...

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
85. I'm so endlessly dejected over all this.
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 12:10 AM
Mar 2018

Republicans committing treason and obstruction like crazy, and for now getting away with it. It's so insanely unfair, and voting them out isn't enough. These people belong in jail.

But it seems like America is on the verge of complete collapse.


Anyone able to sneak me into a real country please?!

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
87. Does This Vindicate Bernie Sanders Vote Against Russia Sanctions?
Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:14 AM
Mar 2018

Bernie can certainly point to this report to support his vote.

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