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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 03:31 PM Mar 2018

Steve Bannon Says He's 'Fascinated By Mussolini'

Source: Talking Points Memo




By Caitlin MacNeal | March 16, 2018 11:53 am

Former White House aide Steve Bannon, now in Europe touting his “populist-nationalist movement,” said in an interview published Wednesday that he is “fascinated by” Italian fascist dictator Benito Mussolini. Bannon made the comment to Nicholas Farrell, who in 2003 authored a biography of the dictator.

“You put the juice back in Mussolini,” Bannon said, referring to Farrell’s book. “He was clearly loved by women. He was a guy’s guy. He has all that virility. He also had amazing fashion sense, right, that whole thing with the uniforms. I’m fascinated by Mussolini.”

Bannon has described himself as an “economic nationalist” and “a fire-breathing populist.” During his brief stint at the White House, he pushed for President Donald Trump and cabinet officials to roll back regulations and supported Trump’s anti-immigrant rhetoric and policies.

When Farrell asked Bannon whether his ideology is similar to fascism, Bannon replied, “This is all theoretical bullshit. I don’t know. Populism, fascism — who cares?”

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Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bannon-fascinated-mussolini





Read Bannon's full interview at the Spectator.
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Steve Bannon Says He's 'Fascinated By Mussolini' (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2018 OP
Really Steve. You should hang by your feet upside down as a tribute. Sneederbunk Mar 2018 #1
He probably could see his feet better that way. dameatball Mar 2018 #8
Ha ha!! Steve didn't read to that book's later chapters. Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #11
I was thinking the same thing Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2018 #35
Beat me to it! lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #45
Is he pro-war and concentration camps too? Sophia4 Mar 2018 #2
Amazing fashion sense? Loved by women? Politicub Mar 2018 #3
Yeah? I'm fascinated by Dracula DFW Mar 2018 #4
I think Ceaucescu (modern Dracula) suffered Mussolini's fate. lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #46
If everyone got what they deserved DFW Mar 2018 #47
I'll bet ! ! ! no_hypocrisy Mar 2018 #5
No surprise there... but does he know how Mussolini ended up? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #6
This. FreepFryer Mar 2018 #32
Thomas Cromwell is another of Bannon's heros Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2018 #44
Not really the same circumstances maxsolomon Mar 2018 #49
Why am I not surprised... CanonRay Mar 2018 #7
Mussolini always struck me murielm99 Mar 2018 #9
so Steve Bannon, Karl Rove and Newt Gingrich waddle into a bar..... dameatball Mar 2018 #10
Yes Steve, and Hitler was fun and congenial sort of chap. magicarpet Mar 2018 #12
Most fascists would be Tiggeroshii Mar 2018 #13
Mussolini *was* fascinating The Mouth Mar 2018 #14
I love historians, librarians GeorgeHayduke Mar 2018 #24
Bannon and Trump are Fascists . No doubt about it . geretogo Mar 2018 #15
Oh Stevie! muntrv Mar 2018 #16
OK. So one bad day. dchill Mar 2018 #21
Gravity boots. Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #36
so, the photo above is a health regimen? kwassa Mar 2018 #39
Of course he is... tenderfoot Mar 2018 #17
There's one Mussilini photo that fascinates me... paleotn Mar 2018 #18
It's shocking. I almost posted it but didn't want to get alerted for "graphic content." CTyankee Mar 2018 #28
Yep, it is graphic... paleotn Mar 2018 #30
What? He didn't think we knew already? marble falls Mar 2018 #19
I think Bannon is a contrarian FakeNoose Mar 2018 #20
No one has ever been/ever will be fascinated by Bannon. Judi Lynn Mar 2018 #22
that first photo looks like he was in a bar fight... CTyankee Mar 2018 #29
It looks to me more like he rolled down a railroad embankment The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #33
That's what I wondered. Sure looks like someone just hammered him. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2018 #41
Some of these have got to be 'shopped. Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #37
Similar photos started showing up last year, or earlier. Someone said his nose sports a "gin bloom." Judi Lynn Mar 2018 #42
First one is for sure. greyl Mar 2018 #43
I just read that the second one is too. Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #48
All things considered, there was a time I was GeorgeHayduke Mar 2018 #23
Gee, What a Shock! errant boy Mar 2018 #25
Well yeah, Turbineguy Mar 2018 #26
Compared to Bannon anyone has fashion sense. Orange Free State Mar 2018 #27
LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! FreepFryer Mar 2018 #31
Bannon looks like the Edgar guy from MiB with a giant cockroach in his skin. alphafemale Mar 2018 #34
We don't call him Cheetolini for nothing. sandensea Mar 2018 #38
So whats worse Abu Pepe Mar 2018 #40

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
11. Ha ha!! Steve didn't read to that book's later chapters.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 03:54 PM
Mar 2018

Things did not end well for Il Duce or his family.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
3. Amazing fashion sense? Loved by women?
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 03:37 PM
Mar 2018

Bannon is nuts.

Mussolini didn't end well. I wonder if he's as fascinated with that part of the story?

DFW

(54,372 posts)
4. Yeah? I'm fascinated by Dracula
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 03:38 PM
Mar 2018

It doesn't mean I will necessarily dedicate my life to trying to emulate him.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
46. I think Ceaucescu (modern Dracula) suffered Mussolini's fate.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:30 AM
Mar 2018

Perhaps Bannon would like the same?

DFW

(54,372 posts)
47. If everyone got what they deserved
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:55 AM
Mar 2018

Bannon would have been hanging by his toes in Rome a long time ago.

maxsolomon

(33,334 posts)
49. Not really the same circumstances
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:46 PM
Mar 2018

Henry the 8th executed him because he (Henry) was a dumbass Narcissist, and regretted doing so.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
14. Mussolini *was* fascinating
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 04:20 PM
Mar 2018

I think he was the only case of a journalist coming to power.

The first few years, 1922-1925, before he became dictator he was highly regarded throughout a lot of the world for stabilizing Italy.

In hindsight we see the road he went down, how he set up a template that others would use. But a lot of that footage that NOW screams 'strutting idiot' appeared to a lot of the world in 1924/25 as 'this guy took a failed state and got it functioning'. yes, there was anti-Semitism, but no more than (ddisgustingly) "normal" for a lot of European states, at first...

Really, Fascism (as opposed to National Socialism) is a rather potent synthesis of state and market. One could say the Chinese actually have a fascist system, as Mussolini defined it (and shouldn't the person who creates and implements something have prime definition): a semi-free market capitalist economy guided by a single party state. In some cases it works, if your goal is a growing economy, military strength and decline in political chaos.

National Socialism, under Hitler initially used the Fascist model to deal with the economic chaos, but always as a tool, rather than an end in itself, for 'racial hygiene'.

No defense of Herr Bannon, but I can see in Mussolini some interesting things to study once you pull him out of the shadow of Hitler. But then I've been trying to write an opera about Stalin, a man I certainly do not admire but find interesting as hell.

GeorgeHayduke

(1,227 posts)
24. I love historians, librarians
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 11:23 PM
Mar 2018

and lexocogriphers because I never had time to drill-down much into the meat of history and language. I can tell you which base-pairs caused your cancer, but I'm old and bored with that now.

More books, please.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
36. Gravity boots.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 12:49 PM
Mar 2018

A lot of people don't know that the Mussolini family were health nuts and were pioneers of using gravity boots to promote spinal realignment.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
18. There's one Mussilini photo that fascinates me...
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 05:33 PM
Mar 2018

Hanging upside down. Stevie the drunk should take head of it.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
28. It's shocking. I almost posted it but didn't want to get alerted for "graphic content."
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 02:06 PM
Mar 2018

I well remember the first time I saw it...

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
30. Yep, it is graphic...
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 07:43 PM
Mar 2018

and I won't post it either, but if anyone had it coming it was Il Duce. Stevie should take care in who he admires.

FakeNoose

(32,638 posts)
20. I think Bannon is a contrarian
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 08:01 PM
Mar 2018

He just says things to get people going, he probably doesn't even mean half the stuff he says.
He wants people to disagree with him, and then he shows how "smart" he is.

I read Fire and Fury and he's like that all through the book. Looks like he's still doing it in Europe.
Maybe he should just stay over there.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
22. No one has ever been/ever will be fascinated by Bannon.
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 10:36 PM
Mar 2018

He admires snappy dressers?



Steve always had everyone beaten, himself.



Who wouldn't want a red nose of his own?





The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
33. It looks to me more like he rolled down a railroad embankment
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 09:51 PM
Mar 2018

after falling out of a freight car in a drunken stupor.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
37. Some of these have got to be 'shopped.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 12:53 PM
Mar 2018

The first one looks like he was punched in the face, and the second to last looks like his liver is the size of a Christmas turkey and is struggling to escape his body.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
42. Similar photos started showing up last year, or earlier. Someone said his nose sports a "gin bloom."
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 01:39 AM
Mar 2018

I had never heard that term, and it really stuck in my mind. I have heard that some people do eventually get splotchy red blobs on their faces after a lifetime of slamming them down.

I was puzzled about why one side of his stomach area was swollen and the other wasn't. Glad you mentioned seeing it, too.

GeorgeHayduke

(1,227 posts)
23. All things considered, there was a time I was
Fri Mar 16, 2018, 11:15 PM
Mar 2018

fascinated with Ernesto Guevara de la Cerna (this was in the late 80s). I in no way had any interest in adopting his politics, but the study of such a chatacter was, indeed, fascinating.

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
27. Compared to Bannon anyone has fashion sense.
Sat Mar 17, 2018, 08:08 AM
Mar 2018

Bannon looks like they scraped him out of the gutter, propped him up and stuck a microphone in his face. Living proof that internalized hatred ages one prematurely.

sandensea

(21,630 posts)
38. We don't call him Cheetolini for nothing.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 01:18 PM
Mar 2018

And just as Benito owed his rise to the rabidly fascist Italian royal family, Cheeto owes his to miscreants like the Mercers.

Abu Pepe

(637 posts)
40. So whats worse
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 07:43 PM
Mar 2018

Having one's stomped body hung for public view or Bannon complementing your fashion sense?

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