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Jose Garcia

(2,595 posts)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:07 PM Mar 2018

Pro-Bernie Sanders group cancels Hillary Clinton protest

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — A pro-Bernie Sanders group has canceled an anti-Hillary Clinton protest, its organizer told NBC News on Monday.

The event, created by the leader of a local chapter of Our Revolution, prompted backlash from Clinton allies, leading Sanders' top adviser to condemn it and disassociate his boss from the group, which grew out of Sanders presidential campaign.

The episode shows that, two years later, Democrats still can’t quite shake the ghost of 2016 and the hard-fought presidential primary between Clinton and Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont. And it's another demonstration of the challenges Sanders faces in leading a movement that acts in his name but is often beyond his control — even as he reportedly prepares for a second presidential bid in 2020.

Ellen Faden said she had no idea her protest would cause such an uproar.

Read more: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/democrats-vs-trump/pro-bernie-sanders-group-cancels-anti-hillary-clinton-protest-n857926&ved=0ahUKEwir2sm5zfnZAhXMV98KHUZdDKcQxfQBCCowAQ&usg=AOvVaw0keYEJjfCYfC_ngrBBHzEx

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Pro-Bernie Sanders group cancels Hillary Clinton protest (Original Post) Jose Garcia Mar 2018 OP
Isn't Ellen Faden going to do the protest anyway? comradebillyboy Mar 2018 #1
It is not an Our Revolution event. David__77 Mar 2018 #6
Yes they are. The same people, different name. See my post #5 below. George II Mar 2018 #8
proof than even so-called Democrats fall for repuke / Russian propaganda Skittles Mar 2018 #2
From Jeff Weaver GaryCnf Mar 2018 #3
If they want to truly distance themselves from this local chapter, we need to hear... George II Mar 2018 #25
Yeah, that's why OR is packed to the gills with Bernie 2016 apparatchiks Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #28
A smart thing to do. It served absolutely no purpose. still_one Mar 2018 #4
Unfortunately those who organized the original Our Revolution protest have reorganized it... George II Mar 2018 #5
Shameful. It's harassment, plain and simple lunamagica Mar 2018 #9
Same people GaryCnf Mar 2018 #11
How is that " s-t-r-a-w-m-a-n " ? George II Mar 2018 #12
Local chapters are allowed to post events GaryCnf Mar 2018 #13
You're making excuses for a major blunder. If it was a local Democratic organization.... George II Mar 2018 #16
That last sentence is spot on GaryCnf Mar 2018 #18
Oh, on a less confrontational note GaryCnf Mar 2018 #14
+1,000,000 - good job! George II Mar 2018 #17
I'm not maxed there GaryCnf Mar 2018 #19
Not that it's good enough GaryCnf Mar 2018 #7
uggggh...Why aren't they protesting Trump and his policies. Use the energy wisely. iluvtennis Mar 2018 #10
EXACTLY! serbbral Mar 2018 #26
Does no good to have in house squabbles laserhaas Mar 2018 #15
Good. sandensea Mar 2018 #20
Protest - what for? Why not protest Hubert Humphrey, George McGovern, John Kerry or any other Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2018 #21
This (exactly) lamp_shade Mar 2018 #22
I'm Protesting Truman ProfessorGAC Mar 2018 #24
WTF? Now they are just trying to make Sanders look bad. McCamy Taylor Mar 2018 #23
Is "Our Revolution" referring to 2018, or 1918? lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #27
 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
3. From Jeff Weaver
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:14 PM
Mar 2018
"Our Revolution and Senator Sanders operate independently. Our Revolution has autonomous chapters all across the country," Weaver said in a statement. "That being said, this is no time to be protesting Hillary Clinton or any other Democrat"

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. If they want to truly distance themselves from this local chapter, we need to hear...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 10:06 AM
Mar 2018

...from the President of Our Revolution, Nina Turner, and then Our Revolution should disband the Hazlet Our Revolution chapter and and other rogue chapter.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
28. Yeah, that's why OR is packed to the gills with Bernie 2016 apparatchiks
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 03:00 PM
Mar 2018

Technically they're "independent" from each other with plausible deniability, but then so are Trump and his business interests...

And if anyone thinks someone from Bernie's office didn't call these loons and tell them this stunt was fucking his plans up, then I got a bridge to sell you.

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. Unfortunately those who organized the original Our Revolution protest have reorganized it...
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:16 PM
Mar 2018

....again. They're not using the Our Revolution banner, but a group calling themselves "Expose Democratic Party Corruption" on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/DemPartyCorruption/

The same people, Our Revolution members.

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. How is that " s-t-r-a-w-m-a-n " ?
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 08:36 PM
Mar 2018

The original event was posted on the NATIONAL Our Revolution website (see below). They were only "rejected" after the huge push back. Until then its clear that it was acceptable to the NATIONAL Our Revolution organization. Had there been no push back it would have gone off as an Our Revolution event.

Now the event has been cancelled and the same people, who are Our Revolution people, have reorganized it under a new name.

Here's what was at the bottom of the original announcement of the event:

OUR REVOLUTION
PO BOX 66208
WASHINGTON,DC 20035

PAID FOR BY OUR REVOLUTION

NOT AUTHORIZED BY ANY CANDIDATE OR CANDIDATE COMMITTEE.

OUR REVOLUTION IS A 501(C)(4)ORGANIZATION.CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR REVOLUTION ARE NOT DEDUCTIBLE AS CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR FEDERAL INCOME TAX PURPOSES.
©OUR REVOLUTION|PRIVACY POLICY

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
13. Local chapters are allowed to post events
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:08 PM
Mar 2018

It was never "obvious" that it was "acceptable" to anyone who isn't out to smear Sanders. NOT ONE "national leader" endorsed it in any way. It was an inconsequential blip until "certain" folks blew it up and tried to use this tiny little fringe group of people as a surrogate for their unrelenting Bernie hate. As soon as it became anything more, it was immediately and emphatically rejected.

It actually reminds me of another post that said Sanders should have spoken out about some miniscule local Our Revolution chapter who made despicable attacks on Sri Kulkarni in Texas-22 at the same time he said the DCCC shouldn't have put its national thumb on the scale in Texas-7 primary.

Yea, there are some people out there who just can't let it go. Yes, they say and do stupid and disgusting things. But Bernie is no more responsible for what his supporters say than is Secretary Clinton responsible for the things that her supporters say. The are responsible for what THEY say.

Having to repudiate every stupid (or worse, as in the case of Sri . . . who looks like a real good guy . . . thanks for the link, btw) thing one of your supporters say is a standard no one can meet and THAT is why it is being used by some to attack Democrats (as defined by the TOS) they RIGHTFULLY cannot attack on DU.

It needs to stop.

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. You're making excuses for a major blunder. If it was a local Democratic organization....
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:19 PM
Mar 2018

Last edited Tue Mar 20, 2018, 10:02 AM - Edit history (1)

....we'd see a hue and cry about the "corrupt DNC", the DCCC (which you did, by the way), references to "DWS", etc.

The event was announced on the Our Revolution national website. If the umbrella Our Revolution organization can't rein in their local groups, they should pull back, reorganize, and get tighter control on all who act under the "Our Revolution" banner.

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
18. That last sentence is spot on
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:25 PM
Mar 2018

That egalitarian stuff is fine in small groups but you can't be all "We respect all of you as if you were Bernie himself, post what you want" with hundreds of thousands of members because, let's be honest, some people are just dumb f**ks

 

GaryCnf

(1,399 posts)
14. Oh, on a less confrontational note
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:13 PM
Mar 2018

After reading your link I made a donation to Sri. We can win that district.

Thank you again for that link.

serbbral

(260 posts)
26. EXACTLY!
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 10:26 AM
Mar 2018

They STILL have not learned from 2016! More division! I guess we will have President Trump for four more years, unless he's impeached or something. Such a waste of time. Ironically, they are doing the same thing Trump & Company are doing. Hillary is not even relevant at this point.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
15. Does no good to have in house squabbles
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:17 PM
Mar 2018

When the GOP are on the precipice of giving up House & Senate, ...mid term

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
21. Protest - what for? Why not protest Hubert Humphrey, George McGovern, John Kerry or any other
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 11:03 PM
Mar 2018

failed Dem presidential candidate. What am I missing here..??? Makes no sense. This has got to be the most perplexing thing Ive read all day.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
27. Is "Our Revolution" referring to 2018, or 1918?
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 11:28 AM
Mar 2018

Sounds like a product of the Internet Research Agency.

Were they planning to have a cage on wheels?

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