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FrodosNewPet

(495 posts)
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 10:10 PM Mar 2018

Governor Ducey suspends Uber from autonomous vehicle testing

Source: ABC15 Arizona

PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey has suspended Uber's self-driving vehicle testing privileges in the wake of a pedestrian fatality in Tempe last week.

Ducey told the company in a letter Monday that video footage of the crash raised safety concerns.

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The move comes days after The New York Times reported that the company's own documents showed the testing program was rife with issues. The documents showed trouble with driving through construction zones and requiring far more human intervention than competing companies.

Experts have told The Associated Press that the company's technology should have detected the pedestrian in time to avoid the crash.

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Read more: https://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/governor-ducey-suspends-uber-from-autonomous-vehicle-testing



I suppose Uber's unnaturally darkened video was not quite enough to protect them.
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Governor Ducey suspends Uber from autonomous vehicle testing (Original Post) FrodosNewPet Mar 2018 OP
Didnt AZ brag about permitting this after CA said no? RandySF Mar 2018 #1
Yes, they did. FrodosNewPet Mar 2018 #2
Another fine example not fooled Mar 2018 #3
Christ ouija Mar 2018 #6
Uber safe. Buttershrimp Mar 2018 #4
Does anyone know if the family of this person who was killed joshdawg Mar 2018 #5
Daughter of Uber self-driving car victim Elaine Herzberg to file wrongful death lawsuit. oberliner Mar 2018 #7
Thanks for the info. joshdawg Mar 2018 #8
Tens of thousands of people die in car crushes each year in US alone. LisaL Mar 2018 #12
Nope. With a safe, aware human driver, she would not have been hit. FrodosNewPet Mar 2018 #14
These companies can't WAIT to get their driverless shit on the road. Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #9
If there is a human along for the trip Maggiemayhem Mar 2018 #10
I dunno. Human was supposed to take over if there were any issues. LisaL Mar 2018 #11
The video was misleading FrodosNewPet Mar 2018 #13

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
3. Another fine example
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 11:14 PM
Mar 2018

of the "let business run wild and the world will be paradise" idiotology. Of course Error-Zona was happy to show how wrong California was in not letting urber turn unwitting citizens into pawns.



When even a puke-laden state steps in, you know the business has behaved egregiously.

I hope a good consumer attorney sues uber to find out all the dirty laundry associated with pushing this program forward before (if ever) it was safe to do so.

Of course, douch-y only suspended the program. Countdown to when it restarts...

joshdawg

(2,648 posts)
5. Does anyone know if the family of this person who was killed
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 04:30 AM
Mar 2018

is suing the pants off Uber yet?
They should and they should ask for millions.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Daughter of Uber self-driving car victim Elaine Herzberg to file wrongful death lawsuit.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 05:43 AM
Mar 2018
March 22, 2018 — An Uber self-driving car crash lawsuit is forthcoming as the daughter of victim Elaine Herzberg has retained Arizona personal injury lawyers to determine why the autonomous Volvo SUV hit and killed her mother.

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/uber-self-driving-car-crash-lawsuit-arizona.shtml

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
12. Tens of thousands of people die in car crushes each year in US alone.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:40 AM
Mar 2018

But we are not banning human driven cars as far as I can tell. If this car was driven by a human, it's probably be the same outcome.

FrodosNewPet

(495 posts)
14. Nope. With a safe, aware human driver, she would not have been hit.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 08:44 PM
Mar 2018

Please see my response below, and particularly the Mill Ave video showing how well lit and highly visible the location of the accident is..

No, she should not have jaywalked. That does not change the fact, as many experts are pointing out, the car's sensors should have detected and reacted.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
9. These companies can't WAIT to get their driverless shit on the road.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 07:43 AM
Mar 2018

Time is money, and every hour a human being spends driving a truck or a cab is a dollar stolen from some billionaire's pocket.

Maggiemayhem

(809 posts)
10. If there is a human along for the trip
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:25 AM
Mar 2018

What is the difference between this and auto pilot on a plane? If you watch the video, she just comes out of nowhere in the dark directly in front of the car and I don’t know if anyone could have avoided this. The human Uber driver could have been watching the road instead of looking down.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
11. I dunno. Human was supposed to take over if there were any issues.
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 10:29 AM
Mar 2018

But doesn't appear that human had enough time to react. So, quite possibly the victim would have been run over if this was a regular car. But nobody is banning regular cars despite the fact that a lot of people die in car crushes.

FrodosNewPet

(495 posts)
13. The video was misleading
Tue Mar 27, 2018, 08:39 PM
Mar 2018

I don't know if that was intentional, or Uber was using crappy cameras.

But YouTube videos have shown that is was a reasonably lit area with a clear sight line that would have given either an aware driver or a functioning SDC system plenty of opportunity to avoid her.

The spot of the accident is at about 33 seconds into this video. Pretty much below a street light. Which should be irrelevant because the car has radar and LiDAR.



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