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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 10:58 AM Mar 2018

AP Poll: 33 Percent Of Young Americans Approve Of Trump's Job Performance

Source: Talking Points Memo/AP




By STEVE PEOPLES and Emily Swanson | March 30, 2018 10:06 am

NEW YORK (AP) — A majority of young people believe President Donald Trump is racist, dishonest and “mentally unfit” for office, according to a new survey that finds the nation’s youngest potential voters are more concerned about the Republican’s performance in the White House than older Americans.

The poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and MTV found that just 33 percent of Americans between the ages of 15 and 34 approve of Trump’s job performance.

That’s 9 points lower than all adults, who were asked the same question on a separate AP-NORC survey taken this month.

-snip-

The survey is the first in a series of polls designed to highlight the voices of the youngest generation of voters. The respondents, all of whom will be old enough to vote when Trump seeks re-election in 2020, represent the most diverse generation in American history.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ap-poll-young-americans-trump-approval-rating

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AP Poll: 33 Percent Of Young Americans Approve Of Trump's Job Performance (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2018 OP
Still too damn high (nt) NeoGreen Mar 2018 #1
No shit! Raster Mar 2018 #3
ditto! yonder Mar 2018 #13
Most people this age fall in line with their parents politic and watch the news they watch. notdarkyet Mar 2018 #17
Itr's disheartening frankly. 33%?! KPN Mar 2018 #24
No kidding! calimary Mar 2018 #35
There's plenty of ignorant redneck kids out there cungar2000 Mar 2018 #36
FIFY jayschool2013 Mar 2018 #2
A stubborn 35% TranssexualKaren Mar 2018 #4
The one third rule of any conflict Xipe Totec Mar 2018 #34
Overlap like a Venn diagram . Some know he is racist and dishonest yet approve of those actions lunasun Mar 2018 #5
If the Fairness Doctrine had not been scrapped, that percentage would be lower. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2018 #6
This is a huge, under appreciated issue YessirAtsaFact Mar 2018 #7
I'm not sure about that. Party "loyalty" is endemic. Texin Mar 2018 #10
You're absolutely right about that FakeNoose Mar 2018 #11
Yep. Fucking Reagan! We've been swimming upstream ever since then. KPN Mar 2018 #25
I don't believe some of these polls duforsure Mar 2018 #8
Since no poll has him that low former9thward Mar 2018 #12
racism and bigotry starts at an early age...no big surprise beachbum bob Mar 2018 #9
Polls Regarding Donald Trump's Approval Rating are Not Real j3161usa Mar 2018 #14
The higher we THINK his approval is the better for us because we need to be SCARED Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #26
Not surprising.... the_sly_pig Mar 2018 #15
I guess its good PoorMonger Mar 2018 #16
Brainwashed. ananda Mar 2018 #18
You are always............ MyOwnPeace Mar 2018 #19
Really difficult to see how even 33% of any intelligent group could see anything positive about how DylanUSC Mar 2018 #20
Yes Demovictory9 Mar 2018 #31
Welcome to DU, DylanUSC! calimary Mar 2018 #37
Most of those are probably scummy dudebros and chan idiots dustyscamp Mar 2018 #21
Welcome to DU, dustyscamp! calimary Mar 2018 #39
How was it conducted? getagrip_already Mar 2018 #22
answered my own question.. AmeriSpeak panel getagrip_already Mar 2018 #23
I know one. The 17 yo son of my sister's husband's brother. no_hypocrisy Mar 2018 #27
The 17 yo son of my sister's husband's brother. Proud liberal 80 Mar 2018 #29
My BIL's nephew. no_hypocrisy Mar 2018 #30
I figured it out Proud liberal 80 Mar 2018 #32
When they do polls like this Proud liberal 80 Mar 2018 #28
33 percent of Americans between the ages of 15 and 34 ... Botany Mar 2018 #33
Polls are not accurate (look at who was supposed to win in 2016) BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #38
The polls were accurate in 2016 Locutusofborg Mar 2018 #43
I know people who wrote in Bernie since they were sure of BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #44
Yeah, it was a travesty Locutusofborg Mar 2018 #45
I am not surprised ..... BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #47
Keep in mind, that demographic usually has the lowest turnout. lagomorph777 Mar 2018 #40
Gee, I wonder what 33% of young people we might be talking about... Maxheader Mar 2018 #41
Little ones brainwashed before they can speak.... magicarpet Mar 2018 #42
Ok, he's racist, sexist, and dishonest, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2018 #46

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
2. FIFY
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:02 AM
Mar 2018

NEW YORK (AP) — A majority of young people KNOW President Donald Trump is racist, dishonest and “mentally unfit” for office, according to a new survey that finds the nation’s youngest potential voters are more concerned about the Republican’s performance in the White House than older Americans.

The poll from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and MTV found that just 33 percent of Americans between the ages of 15 and 34 ARE COMPLETE IDIOTS.

That’s 9 points lower than all adults, who were asked the same question on a separate AP-NORC survey taken this month.

-snip-

The survey is the first in a series of polls designed to highlight the voices of the youngest generation of voters. The respondents, all of whom will be old enough to vote when Trump seeks re-election in 2020, represent the most diverse generation in American history.

TranssexualKaren

(364 posts)
4. A stubborn 35%
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:06 AM
Mar 2018

People who supported Trump realize what a repulsive man he is. They thought they were throwing a molatov cocktail into a broken system.
Maybe the resistance movement and Trump supporters are part of the same process. Our country has reached a something-has-to-give moment in its history.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
34. The one third rule of any conflict
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:50 PM
Mar 2018

In any conflict, one third of the population will attack another third, while the remaining third sits on their hands and watches.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
7. This is a huge, under appreciated issue
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:14 AM
Mar 2018

There is no 24/7 hate radio if the Fairness Doctrine is still in place.

A few minutes of reality make the conspiracy theories much harder to swallow.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
10. I'm not sure about that. Party "loyalty" is endemic.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:20 AM
Mar 2018

My guess is that this 33% are the offspring of tRump's staunchest supporters and they are going to parrot that to which they've become acculturated. Kids for the most part form their opinions based on what they hear from those within a circle they've been around. Some will be influenced by friends and others from outside their group - or "tribe" as it's called now, but most will hold fast to what they've learned by those who've had the most influence on them.

FakeNoose

(32,637 posts)
11. You're absolutely right about that
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:25 AM
Mar 2018

... however there is also a large chuck of teenagers who never read a newspaper and never watch a national news program. I'm sure there's also a percentage of kids who live in families where the only TV news is Fox News.

These teenagers shouldn't be asked questions about Trump (or the current state of affairs) because THEY HAVE NO OPINION! Or they might think they have one, but their opinion isn't valid.

KPN

(15,643 posts)
25. Yep. Fucking Reagan! We've been swimming upstream ever since then.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:28 PM
Mar 2018

An uphill playing field. Fairness doesn't count in America over the past 30+ years.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
8. I don't believe some of these polls
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:17 AM
Mar 2018

And have skewed them to favor him in one form or another. The truth is they are probably a lot lower, around the lower 20's would be my guess. They get people to do these polls showing who they want to look good , and use techniques to get their desired results, and are paid for from the ones who want them done that way.

 

j3161usa

(44 posts)
14. Polls Regarding Donald Trump's Approval Rating are Not Real
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:28 AM
Mar 2018

I believe pollsters pose their questions regarding trumps approval/disapproval to more conservatives to make the numbers look better. Why, because otherwise they would be the lowest in American history. And at this point, that's bad, real bad. So they ask more conservatives. Behind closed doors conservatives really dislike trump as a president. There are many issues about him they didn't expect or vote for. They have no problem with his agenda per se, it's all the other crap that goes on around him: the scandals, the relentless, sometimes inaccurate and embarrassing tweets, the disorganization of his administration, the dishonesty, etc on, and on. BUT if anybody were to publicly ask a conservative a question regarding trump's job performance, the scandals, etc, they will give a supporting, affirmative answer. They would rather do that than to admit they did something wrong (by voting for him). They would rather defend him rather than give the democrats something else to talk about; they would rather embarrass themselves on national TV before giving in to the democrats. To them this is a war between the two parties and the conservatives will always support their man. I didn't vote for trump, but I do support some of his agenda. What I don't like is all the bafoonery, the clowning, and the lying. To me he makes the whole act of being president seem like a reality show where much of what we see is fake. I'm afraid that this type of incompetence will get troops killed in action while his sons sit back and continue to be rich and feed off the taxpayers dollar.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
26. The higher we THINK his approval is the better for us because we need to be SCARED
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:32 PM
Mar 2018

into action.

That 30% or so of the public or, and more importantly, about 50% of WHO VOTES, support such a piece of shit, should scare us and push us to action.

the_sly_pig

(741 posts)
15. Not surprising....
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:30 AM
Mar 2018

Had to explain what Vietnam was to a 20 something who also couldn’t name one president prior to Raygun.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
19. You are always............
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:08 PM
Mar 2018

going to have a population that has a given number of "less-educated" people - people that quit school, people that came from broken homes and had no support in growth and development, people that were raised in homes that do not support education. They've always been there and always will be.
THAT is where you get at least 20% of those that you question: "What the F**K are you thinking!?"

Then, consider the poll itself:
Who did they ask?
How do we know it was a "balanced" polling base?

Myself - I'm pleased that the number is lower than generally accepted "adult" numbers!

Get Out The Vote!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT will fix the numbers!

 

DylanUSC

(142 posts)
20. Really difficult to see how even 33% of any intelligent group could see anything positive about how
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:10 PM
Mar 2018

this guy acts or what he says & does.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
37. Welcome to DU, DylanUSC!
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:54 PM
Mar 2018

I don't get it, either. It just doesn't compute. I'm with you on that astoundingly high number. But there's something significant to keep in mind here: DENIAL. Because NOBODY likes to admit they were wrong, much less that they've been royally HAD.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
39. Welcome to DU, dustyscamp!
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:57 PM
Mar 2018

Saw something most intriguing on @Stonekettle - in a Twitter conversation about bullies. He used the term "crybullies" for human disgraces like Laura Ingraham.

And frankly, whenever I hear anything about what the trumpsters think, I can't help wondering how many of them are Russian trolls.

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
22. How was it conducted?
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:15 PM
Mar 2018

I'm not even sure how you can reach a broad range of 17-25 year olds. Certainly not direct phone. Social media? Not very reliable.

The problem is the respondents tend to be self selected. That isn't necessarily representative of the population or who in it will actually vote.

But I get they want some measure......

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
23. answered my own question.. AmeriSpeak panel
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:22 PM
Mar 2018

Thiss method has serious flaws. They "empanel" volunteers chosen by demographics, but it isn't random. If they were looking for a particular percentage of whites, conservatives, rural, etc, that would skew the results.

Yeah, no polling is perfect, but this is too easily wrong. And it can be very wrong.

no_hypocrisy

(46,094 posts)
27. I know one. The 17 yo son of my sister's husband's brother.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:34 PM
Mar 2018

He's already signed up to join the military after he graduates in June.

Wore his MAGA hat to the Thanksgiving table in November.

Nobody allowed to discuss politics when he's around.

Drank the Kool Aid and took the jug.

Lives in Nassau County on Long Island.

I hate to predict he won't be at the Thanksgiving table within five years.

Nice kid otherwise.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
29. The 17 yo son of my sister's husband's brother.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:40 PM
Mar 2018
The 17 yo son of my sister's husband's brother.


Took me a while to break that down in relation to you....lol

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
28. When they do polls like this
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:38 PM
Mar 2018

Women Voters or Young Voters, I like to see the actually break down by race. Because when you first hear these numbers people and the media automatically picture white women or white young voters. But in reality it is the minorities that have high disapproval.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
38. Polls are not accurate (look at who was supposed to win in 2016)
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:55 PM
Mar 2018

and haven't been. They are like "studies" which can be skewed. The parents of these young people are the ones who influence them. They do not know very much and parrot their peers and parents.

We need to rely on the fact that we must GET OUT THE VOTE and work like mad up to the MIDTERMS! The GOP tricksters have not changed a bit since 2016 and everything is still in place for them to win and keep control of the House. We must not allow this and have to donate and volunteer for our local Dem candidates.

Locutusofborg

(525 posts)
43. The polls were accurate in 2016
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 03:58 PM
Mar 2018

The final polls released before the election averaged predicting a Clinton victory in the popular vote by 3.2 points. Clinton actually won the popular vote by 2.1%. So the polls were only off by a point. National public opinion polls don't predict the Electoral vote.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
44. I know people who wrote in Bernie since they were sure of
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 04:05 PM
Mar 2018

a huge Hillary win. I have a friend that I have barely spoken with for that. She is intelligent too.

Locutusofborg

(525 posts)
45. Yeah, it was a travesty
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 04:42 PM
Mar 2018

One of my "favorite" stories about the American electorate is about Paula Jones. When her lawyers were preparing Paula for her Grand Jury testimony in her sexual harassment lawsuit against Bill Clinton, they asked her if she was a Republican or a Democrat. Paula responded: "Now when you say "Republican," are they the good ones or the bad ones"? There are literally adult Americans who know that little about politics.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
47. I am not surprised .....
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 05:05 PM
Mar 2018

Americans are extremely ignorant about the govt, history, geography and world affairs. Try being a teacher. When I had elementary school students who knew more about these topics than their "educated" parents I was shocked for the first few years in the profession. When I spoke with other teachers who were more experienced they told me that this has been "the norm" for about 20 years!


lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
40. Keep in mind, that demographic usually has the lowest turnout.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 02:27 PM
Mar 2018

This time, I expect their numbers will be fueled by white-hot rage. They offer a huge pool of potential new voters. In other words, this group is ready to shock their elders.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
46. Ok, he's racist, sexist, and dishonest, ...
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 04:58 PM
Mar 2018

... these are not necessarily "flaws" to his base. They're job requirements.

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