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alp227

(32,032 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:55 AM Apr 2018

Feinstein calls Trump erratic and unfit. But she'll try to work with him

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

President Trump is erratic, lacks stability and hasn’t shown himself fit to hold office, Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Tuesday, but she hasn’t given up the notion of working with him.

“I do not believe he is a good president. I do not believe he is fit to be president. I do not believe that we have the stability in the executive office that we need to have,” Feinstein, D-Calif., said during an interview with The Chronicle’s editorial board.

“I think there’s an erratic behavior there that is deeply concerning,” Feinstein said.

But Feinstein, who is trying to win support for a new assault weapons ban — a bill for which she has no Republican co-sponsors — noted that she would need Trump’s signature on any measure she can get through Congress.

Read more: https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Feinstein-calls-Trump-erratic-and-unfit-But-12802918.php

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Feinstein calls Trump erratic and unfit. But she'll try to work with him (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2018 OP
She has to. That's her job. Fortunately for most of us, it's not OUR job. n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #1
She's trying her best do to her job for the good of the country and her constituents. Why... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #9
Its the same kind of thinking that has put us in this mess. we can do it Apr 2018 #10
It is her job and what has put us in this situation is voters who fell for Russian and right wing Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #12
That kind of thinking -- essentially saying both parties are equally bad -- pnwmom Apr 2018 #14
Yep, the unrealistic purists never learn. we can do it Apr 2018 #17
Some have unreasonable expectations and are clueless about how government and elections really work. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #13
Good for her. Anything that she can pry loose that is beneficial will be very welcome... Hekate Apr 2018 #2
Shell will without a doubt work with dump. Eko Apr 2018 #3
Try means to attempt to get sane passages inserted in before he realizes they're not nuts. herding cats Apr 2018 #4
These are the saddest of times. How can anyone work with THIS situation?! democratisphere Apr 2018 #5
Not impressed. True Blue American Apr 2018 #6
I would be giddy to if I thought we might get a ban on assault weapons...hope she trounces Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #11
So would I True Blue American Apr 2018 #15
It doesn't hurt to try. And it makes the point that Democrats are working for the good of the Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #19
True True Blue American Apr 2018 #21
There will be consequences to electing this piece of shit...but most things can be fixed in time. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #26
From your lips to Gods ears! True Blue American Apr 2018 #27
Me either. I am fucking pissed. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #29
Good luck with that. KPN Apr 2018 #7
Says it all.. Maxheader Apr 2018 #8
Normalization of trump angrychair Apr 2018 #16
Sorry, I disagree. I hate the orange menace. But if we obstruct everything, we play into GOP hands. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #20
We are not obstructing everything. True Blue American Apr 2018 #24
That was awesome. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #25
Obstructing what exactly? angrychair Apr 2018 #30
As we posted , Chuck Schumer True Blue American Apr 2018 #31
My point still stands angrychair Apr 2018 #32
That is not what I posted True Blue American Apr 2018 #33
Sorry, misunderstood angrychair Apr 2018 #35
Thank you True Blue American Apr 2018 #36
He lies nonstop. Everything he says is idiocy. He won't be "working" with anyone -- LuckyLib Apr 2018 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2018 #18
She is doing her job mcar Apr 2018 #22
Wait, I thought "normalizing Trump" or any of his positions was bad? vi5 Apr 2018 #28
You can't work with crazy, Diane Bayard Apr 2018 #34
Exactly right. True Blue American Apr 2018 #37
A senator who won't "try to work with him" ought to resign. Orsino Apr 2018 #38

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. She's trying her best do to her job for the good of the country and her constituents. Why...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:28 AM
Apr 2018

She's trying her best do to her job for the good of the country and her constituents. Why does that bother so many people here? Why is she attacked for doing that? Why all the threats to "primary" her?

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
12. It is her job and what has put us in this situation is voters who fell for Russian and right wing
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:15 AM
Apr 2018

lies and who failed to show up at the polls in 2016...giving the GOP all three branches of government. It is the thinking that some Democrats aren't good enough and the parties are the same which has caused this situation. And I sincerely hope most have learned a lesson and won't allow the GOP to win again...because we really are looking at the destruction of the progressive movement if that happens and of our republic.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
14. That kind of thinking -- essentially saying both parties are equally bad --
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 10:13 AM
Apr 2018

is what got us into this mess.

None of the Democrats including Feinstein can get anything done unless they interact with Republicans.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
13. Some have unreasonable expectations and are clueless about how government and elections really work.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:20 AM
Apr 2018

They fervently believe that very liberal candidates can get elected in states like Alabama...and the 'message' is magical and the only problem is that we are not all on board with the 'message'. It is not that much different from the 70's and 80's where progressives got trounced in multiple presidential elections. It took Bill Clinton to figure out a new strategy and stop the GOP assault on the courts by winning in 1992...an election deemed so hopeless by Democrats that the most promising candidates didn't bother to run.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
2. Good for her. Anything that she can pry loose that is beneficial will be very welcome...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:57 AM
Apr 2018

You work with what you've got, until you can change it.

Eko

(7,318 posts)
3. Shell will without a doubt work with dump.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:59 AM
Apr 2018

Feinstein on the other hand will only work with Dump when it progresses humanity and only if it does.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
4. Try means to attempt to get sane passages inserted in before he realizes they're not nuts.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:22 AM
Apr 2018

She knows the drill... flatter him, trash his person he hates most that day... and boom! He agrees. At least for a few hours and a couple of tweets anyway. Which is enough to get it into a news cycle.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
5. These are the saddest of times. How can anyone work with THIS situation?!
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:51 AM
Apr 2018

The wealthiest need to be made wealthier and there is truly nothing left for the rest.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
6. Not impressed.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 05:27 AM
Apr 2018

Feinstein was all giddy sitting next to Trump while he said they would put her ideas in the bill.

Trump lied.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
11. I would be giddy to if I thought we might get a ban on assault weapons...hope she trounces
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:11 AM
Apr 2018

her OR candidate.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
19. It doesn't hurt to try. And it makes the point that Democrats are working for the good of the
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:27 PM
Apr 2018

country while Republicans and Trump don't give a damn.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
21. True
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:57 PM
Apr 2018

I do think things are changing. Just not fast enough, allowing Trump and his gang of crooks to do irreversible damage.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
8. Says it all..
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:16 AM
Apr 2018
“I do not believe he is a good president. I do not believe he is fit to be president. I do not believe that we have the stability in the executive office that we need to have,” Feinstein, D-Calif., said during an interview with The Chronicle’s editorial board.


IOWs, we don't have the votes for impeachment, IMHO

angrychair

(8,700 posts)
16. Normalization of trump
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 10:49 AM
Apr 2018

“He is incompetent and unfit for office BUT I’ll work with him” is the most pretzel logic statement ever.

Saying you “agree” or “willing to work with him” is a step to normalization.

He said he likes to grab women by the pussy!

He said hit was ok to call his own daughter “a piece of ass”!

He is driving the US economy into the sewer.

He is a racist.

He is a misogynist.

Democrats should not be working with him on anything as he has NEVER been an honest broker, even with his own party.

We should fight everything he does to the bitter end.

It’s not about the reality of the job or office. In what “reality” do you think trump would sign an assault weapons ban? He has been jerking Democrats around like fools on gun control and DACA but we keep coming to him like an abused spouse thinking we can make it work and he keeps hitting us. STOP!

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
20. Sorry, I disagree. I hate the orange menace. But if we obstruct everything, we play into GOP hands.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:28 PM
Apr 2018

We need seats in states and districts Trump won. Thus, we need to work with him if he will but I doubt he will anyway.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
24. We are not obstructing everything.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:02 PM
Apr 2018

Chuck Schumer was able to get funding for almost everything Democrats wanted in this last budget.

They had no choice, needed Democratic votes. Chuck Schumer is the true negotiator, not Trump.

angrychair

(8,700 posts)
30. Obstructing what exactly?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:33 PM
Apr 2018

Since republicans control both the house and senate, unless it’s legislation they agree on, it will never be voted on. Things like a clean DACA bill or a clean assault weapon ban will never see the light of day.

Democrats don’t have to obstruct anything, we can put forth all the bills we want because not a single one will see the light of day until January of 2019.


That fucking Wall is a money pit and completely useless but until trump goes away anything we do will have that nonsense attached to to it. We should not be conceding ANY ground on that useless piece of shit wall or vote for ANY bill that includes it.

Sorry, it’s counterintuitive to say he is
“unfit for office” and then imply you will work with him on anything.

angrychair

(8,700 posts)
32. My point still stands
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 06:35 PM
Apr 2018

Those concessions were not because republicans became altruistic and bipartisan all of a sudden. There was a reason. Those items were included to counter the freedom caucus and other republicans from sabotaging the bill. In other words this was “must pass” legislation and republicans could not afford to be the reason it didn’t pass so they needed Democratic votes. Those votes came at a price.
Plus it wasn’t all rainbows and puppies. For all the good in there we spent $700 billion dollars on defense. We are allowing the CDC to study gun violence now but we didn’t allocate any funding to do it.

Clear backpacks and better door locks would not have stopped a single school shooting ever.

The omnibus spending bill has some wins in it but let’s not kid ourselves and think it’s because of actual bipartisan agreement or Democrats changing republican minds. It boiled down to republican infighting and we were able to, a certain degree, win some minor concessions on things that would have been there from the beginning on any Democratic spending bill.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
33. That is not what I posted
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 06:42 PM
Apr 2018

McConnell did not have the votes without Democrats. That is why Schumer got much of what he wanted.

I never mentioned altruistic or bi partisan. He had to have Democratic votes.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
36. Thank you
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 12:23 AM
Apr 2018

I appreciate that.

Nothing Republicans do is compromise. Right now they are in survival mode.

Chuck surprised me that he knows just how to lead.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
23. He lies nonstop. Everything he says is idiocy. He won't be "working" with anyone --
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:01 PM
Apr 2018

Feinstein needs to be shouting from the rooftops along with others that this must end. Playing nice doesn't work. He has been normalized and we are now at the point of yawning at his daily diatribes.

Enough!

Response to alp227 (Original post)

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
28. Wait, I thought "normalizing Trump" or any of his positions was bad?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:55 PM
Apr 2018

I mean that's what I read throughout the past couple days when Bernie took the position that Amazon being a monolithic, anti-labor, greedy corporation might possibly not be the best thing in the world, simply because that happened to mildly, slightly, and vaguely overlap with something Trump said.

Looking forward to all of those same folks being outraged at this.

Bayard

(22,099 posts)
34. You can't work with crazy, Diane
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:56 PM
Apr 2018

He'll promise something to your face, then do what's totally different.

Don't waste the effort.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
38. A senator who won't "try to work with him" ought to resign.
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 09:34 AM
Apr 2018

She is saying as much as she dares--and maybe too much--while trying to get some good legislation passed.

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