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brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:27 PM Apr 2018

DNC official who called African-Americans colored people expected to quit

Source: Politico

MIAMI — A Florida Democratic National Committee member who offended African-Americans for using the phrase “colored people” is expected to resign office Wednesday as the state party chairwoman and other officials called on him to resign — echoing the comments of his own wife, the Democratic Party chair in Duval County.

John Parker, the Duval County Democratic state committeeman, had told party officials he would post his resignation on his Facebook page.

Parker had said he meant to say “people of color” instead of “colored people” and eventually apologized for his offhanded remarks Jan. 22 after a local Democratic Party meeting in Jacksonville. But others accused him of using more racially charged language — claims he denied — and felt their complaints were being ignored in the ensuing months.

That led to increased media scrutiny and the remarkable call by Parker’s wife, Duval County Democratic Executive Committee Chair Lisa King, to say Monday that he should quit. After POLITICO published a story Wednesday on the controversy, Florida Democratic Party Chair Terrie Rizzo broke months of silence and said he needed to go.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/04/04/dnc-official-who-called-blacks-colored-people-expected-to-quit-as-calls-for-resignation-mount-348613

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DNC official who called African-Americans colored people expected to quit (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2018 OP
I actually believe him Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #1
Thanks for your thought and re-thought. elleng Apr 2018 #3
This one confuses the crap out of me, too. knightmaar Apr 2018 #4
The NAACP was formed in 1909. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #7
I get that. knightmaar Apr 2018 #13
Finnaly,this sucker is removed. Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #9
We have an 82 year old friend that we have dinner and go on gambling day trips with, that always a kennedy Apr 2018 #2
When he says "colored people," murielm99 Apr 2018 #11
It can be a generational term bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #5
How the hell does someone like that get to any position of power in our party? vi5 Apr 2018 #6
How old is this person? MrScorpio Apr 2018 #8
How is "a professor of history" different from "a history professor"? I don't get it. Binkie The Clown Apr 2018 #10
Seemingly small variations can matter to people onenote Apr 2018 #12
a "mystery writer" could be an unknown author DBoon Apr 2018 #15
A 'Professor Of History' is someone with a PhD working in the 'History Department' of a College/Uni mr_lebowski Apr 2018 #16
There were much more serious charges that he denies, that the title left out IronLionZion Apr 2018 #18
This is why we lose Dopers_Greed Apr 2018 #14
Spectacularly unpersuasive argument. (nt) Paladin Apr 2018 #17
Growing up white in segregated Texas, I remember the phrase "colored girl" as in CTyankee Apr 2018 #19

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
1. I actually believe him
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:31 PM
Apr 2018

Wish people didn’t get up in arms (this is coming from a black man)

Edit: never mind, I read the whole article

Preceding this instance, he allegedly referred to the Working People Caucus as the ‘Poor Black People Working Caucus' and called a constituent the 'mayor’s mammy,'" Daniels wrote in a press statement Monday night. “Unlike, other leaders in Florida, even after a request from the Florida Black Caucus, Mr. Parker has not resigned.”

knightmaar

(748 posts)
4. This one confuses the crap out of me, too.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:40 PM
Apr 2018

Okay, I'm Canadian, so I don't always get what terms are offensive in what areas.

But I kind of thought "Colored People" would be okay because there's a "National Assoc for the Advancement of Colored People".

Then again, as you said, he's alleged to have said some other dipshit racist stuff, so I can see how this is really just an inflammatory headline, making a mole hill out of his mountain of dipshittery.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,733 posts)
7. The NAACP was formed in 1909.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:57 PM
Apr 2018

At that time "colored people" was a common and basically inoffensive term that AA people used themselves; but since then it's taken on negative connotations - not quite as bad as "n****r," obviously, but it's even so it's been used in more recent years as a put-down and a slur. At best it's regarded as insensitively old-fashioned. The distinction between "colored people" and "people of color" might seem to be a matter of mere semantics, but the term "colored people" is now widely regarded as inappropriate. People should be referred to by the names they want to be referred to. And since apparently this guy isn't merely old-fashioned, but has also said other racist things, I suspect his use of "colored people" wasn't just a slip of the tongue.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
13. I get that.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:22 PM
Apr 2018

There's just no way for an outsider to have a clue that the term is a bad one to use until something like this happens.

The headline, mind you, makes it sound like that was the guy's only offense, which is pretty misleading.

a kennedy

(29,673 posts)
2. We have an 82 year old friend that we have dinner and go on gambling day trips with, that always
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:35 PM
Apr 2018

says “colored people” and “orientals” when in discussions, drives me insane......my husband says don’t correct him, just try to ignore it. I swear I’m going to say something the next time he says it again. It just burns my ears when he says it. Ugh.....

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
11. When he says "colored people,"
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:07 PM
Apr 2018

ask him, "What color?"

The chances are good that he will say, "Black."

Don't say anything else. Just let it be food for thought.

bucolic_frolic

(43,181 posts)
5. It can be a generational term
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:52 PM
Apr 2018

the modern contemporary terms we use to refer to many things differ from early, mid, or late 20th century terms.

I won't delve into any of them as per race or ethnicity. we've heard them all. but we know there were different terms for marijuana for example.

If this was an older person who used the term, he may sound tone deaf to us, but he may think he's being everyday deferential.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
6. How the hell does someone like that get to any position of power in our party?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:54 PM
Apr 2018

I don't care how low level an official he was, but if he had enough power that people were listening to what he says then it should have been long ago apparent that he was a racist. So how did he get to this point in the Democratic party, even in Florida?

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
10. How is "a professor of history" different from "a history professor"? I don't get it.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:06 PM
Apr 2018

How is "a writer of mysteries" different from "a mystery writer"?
How is "a player of guitar" different from "a guitar player"?

I really don't get it.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
12. Seemingly small variations can matter to people
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:19 PM
Apr 2018

For example, I don't hear the phrase: "Blacks support this proposal" the same way as I hear "The blacks support this proposal."



DBoon

(22,367 posts)
15. a "mystery writer" could be an unknown author
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:37 PM
Apr 2018

Does "mystery" refer to what is written or does it refer to a characteristic of the writer

yes I'm being pedantic

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. A 'Professor Of History' is someone with a PhD working in the 'History Department' of a College/Uni
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:08 PM
Apr 2018

They do not, by this definition, have to actually 'teach History classes' at the time or ever. In fact you could even be an Engineer, who's focus is on 'the development of Engineering practices over the years', working in the History Dept, i.e. not technically having a Liberal Arts degree like 'History', for example.

Actual teaching in a classroom setting of 'History' of some sort is implied by 'History Professor' (either currently or in the past). And you could be a 'History Professor' at a High School as well.

IronLionZion

(45,452 posts)
18. There were much more serious charges that he denies, that the title left out
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:27 PM
Apr 2018

he admits to the lesser charge knowing that many will not find it that bad.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
14. This is why we lose
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 02:33 PM
Apr 2018

GOP electing actual Nazis:
"COOL"

Dem refers to African Americans with a slightly dated, but overall inoffensive, term:
"THEY MUST RESIGN"

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. Growing up white in segregated Texas, I remember the phrase "colored girl" as in
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 05:16 PM
Apr 2018

"The colored girl is coming today" which meant that she was coming to clean the house.

What's the difference in that and "people of color", not much language wise but politically it is a world of difference.

Sadly, even here in liberal New Haven, I have encountered stark racism when our black friend brought his white girl friend to a Yale game (where we are part of a tailgate party). Several members of the party "disinvited" him from the party. Our friend was a Yalie and a member of the Yale varsity Lacrosse team. I argued with the members of the tailgate group, to no avail. He is now looking to form his own tailgate party group. We will of course switch to his group if he does. If he doesn't or can't, I don't know what to do.

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