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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Sat May 5, 2018, 07:48 PM May 2018

'Professor of Killology' at NRA Convention blames violent video games for mass shootings

Source: Think Progress

"Children are committing crimes like no one's ever seen before."

LUKE BARNES MAY 5, 2018, 7:09 AM

DALLAS, TX—Deep in the bowls of the Kate Bailey Hutchinson Convention Center in Dallas, America’s most famous professor of “killology” delivered his first sales pitch of the NRA Convention.

Dave Grossman is a former US Army Ranger who for the past 20 years has devoted himself to training military and law enforcement personnel on the reality of killing and combat. His book On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society is required reading for FBI Cadets, and he regularly travels the country training law enforcement officers.

But in his three-hour seminar on Friday, called Sheepdogs! The Bulletproof Mind for the Armed Citizen, Grossman didn’t focus on examining the psychology behind killing. Instead, he painted an apocalyptic vision of the threats facing America, sounding like an anguished preacher in front of crowd that was mostly male, mostly middle-aged and almost completely white.

Grossman weaved together mass shootings from all over the world to support his thesis that violent media, and specifically violent video games, were creating a generation of killers.


Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/professor-of-killology-at-nra-convention-blames-violent-video-games-for-mass-shootings-81c36d626b2a/



So I have question Grossman ................do you think that when a father gives a gun to someone in a family that was not suppose to have one, you know fucking having delusion of grandeur ......................who do you fucking blame.......................or did you miss that one....................
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'Professor of Killology' at NRA Convention blames violent video games for mass shootings (Original Post) turbinetree May 2018 OP
IMO the NRA endorses and promotes gun violence, and encourages youth to be part RKP5637 May 2018 #1
I just keep thinking of the Waffle House murders turbinetree May 2018 #3
Same games are sold and viewed in SayItLoud May 2018 #2
Yeah ok. Let me know when the next mass shooting is carried out with this geomon666 May 2018 #4
It reminds me of the days when they wanted to censure BigmanPigman May 2018 #5
Japan has violent video games, too, yet hardly any nurders. tclambert May 2018 #6
Likewise ThoughtCriminal May 2018 #8
Ignorant white wing racist gun-humpers. We just keep coddling these losers. Hoyt May 2018 #7
FBI and law enforcement Corgigal May 2018 #9
Somebody needs to "Stand Their Fucking Ground" maxrandb May 2018 #10
Blame it on Silicon Valley and Hollywood DBoon May 2018 #11
That is what he is saying. Dawson Leery May 2018 #18
What leads to violent video games? truthisfreedom May 2018 #12
Lack of sex, mostly jmowreader May 2018 #15
EVEN IF THS WERE TRUE (and I happen to think there is a kernel of truth ) it changes nothing re: Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2018 #13
+1 meadowlander May 2018 #14
advertising Locrian May 2018 #17
Kids all over the world see leftynyc May 2018 #16

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
3. I just keep thinking of the Waffle House murders
Sat May 5, 2018, 08:04 PM
May 2018

and what this Grossman character would say about that................


SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
2. Same games are sold and viewed in
Sat May 5, 2018, 07:59 PM
May 2018

Canada and most of the rest of the world. Only in America do we have automatic weapons killing kids in schools, etc etc.

The guy is full of shit.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
4. Yeah ok. Let me know when the next mass shooting is carried out with this
Sat May 5, 2018, 08:52 PM
May 2018


Then I'll be happy to entertain the notion that video games cause violence.

BigmanPigman

(51,589 posts)
5. It reminds me of the days when they wanted to censure
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:01 PM
May 2018

rock music since it directly led to drug use. It is easier to use lame scapegoats than address the real issues behind it.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
9. FBI and law enforcement
Sun May 6, 2018, 03:47 AM
May 2018

need to drop this guy must read instructional manual. He's cray. I guess he needed a new check for his family vacation.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
13. EVEN IF THS WERE TRUE (and I happen to think there is a kernel of truth ) it changes nothing re:
Sun May 6, 2018, 02:01 PM
May 2018

the absolute need to regulate the heck out of the gun industry.

SO what is the point in nra presenting this?

Maybe "cause" is not the right word, maybe more like "inspire" or .... desensitizes / changes cultural norms /gives "'permission" to someone predisposed.

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
14. +1
Sun May 6, 2018, 07:21 PM
May 2018

Even if kids are desensitised to violence by video games, the reason they can walk into a school and kill 50 people is because the have access to assault weapons.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
17. advertising
Mon May 7, 2018, 07:31 AM
May 2018

I'm sure the NRA actually LOVES movies, tv, games etc for the free advertising they provide for guns and gun culture.

Same as it was for cigarettes in movies.
All the "cool kids" want to be just like their superhero - whether it's accessorizing with smokes or guns.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Main_Page

But it doesn't mean we shouldn't have restrictions and better laws...




 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. Kids all over the world see
Mon May 7, 2018, 07:29 AM
May 2018

and play the exact same video games - in fact, I've heard the ones in Japan are far more violent, but they don't seem to have the problems we do with mass shootings on the level we do in the US. The problem is easy access to guns. Period.

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