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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat May 12, 2018, 03:56 PM May 2018

Mulvaney: WH Aide Remark About McCain Dying Was 'Awful' But Just 'Joke'

Source: Talking Points Memo




By Allegra Kirkland | May 12, 2018 2:14 pm

White House budget director Mick Mulvaney said Saturday that a communication staffer’s comment about Sen. John McCain dying was “awful” but not a fireable offense.

Kelly Sadler’s crack that McCain’s opposition to CIA director nominee Gina Haspel didn’t matter because “he’s dying anyway” was just a “joke” told at a private meeting, Mulvaney said in an appearance on Fox News.

“This was a private meeting inside the White House. It was a joke. It was a badly considered joke that she said fell flat,” Mulvaney told Fox.




Sadler, a special assistant, reportedly mocked McCain’s brain cancer diagnosis at an internal meeting one day after the Arizona senator publicly came out against Haspel for her role in the CIA’s torture program.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mulvaney-kelly-sadler-mccain-dying-awful-joke
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Mulvaney: WH Aide Remark About McCain Dying Was 'Awful' But Just 'Joke' (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
Keep digging that hole deeper! greatauntoftriplets May 2018 #1
No, Mulvaney Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #29
Explain your joke to us please. C_U_L8R May 2018 #2
Exactly. forgotmylogin May 2018 #15
Interpret my silence Xipe Totec May 2018 #3
We see how you are. Thanks. Glimmer of Hope May 2018 #4
Hey Mulvaney! Your wife is a filthy whore. Just joking!! flibbitygiblets May 2018 #5
So Kathy Griffin joked MontanaMama May 2018 #6
Michele Wolf joked about Harah Suckabee Sanders creative use of ashes. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #34
"Mick Mulvaney, you are not worth the scraping from my shoes, at least manure is fertilizer! TexasProgresive May 2018 #7
Being on the president's staff doesn't give you carte blanche to be a jerk. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #8
that vote, in itself was an act of heroism olddad56 May 2018 #10
somebody has a less than hilarious sense of humor. olddad56 May 2018 #9
Lock her up! truthisfreedom May 2018 #11
Well, I hope you feel the same way.... SergeStorms May 2018 #12
Oh no. It'll all be 'different' then. Chemisse May 2018 #23
"It Was a Joke" is Classic Abuser Rationalization dlk May 2018 #13
Exactly. Classic bullying behavior. Danmel May 2018 #22
and how long until we're expected to accept this horrid shit in public too? 0rganism May 2018 #14
Yet these snowflakes get all upset about other 'jokes'... SeattleVet May 2018 #16
That's the typical republican response to being called on on their shit. GoCubsGo May 2018 #17
Intending it to be a joke doesn't diminish its awfulness. meadowlander May 2018 #18
One thing about RepubliCON jokes Homer Wells May 2018 #19
I'd expect no better from a piece of shit like Mulvaney and his cretinous employees. (nt) Paladin May 2018 #20
Well, some people just don't know how to tell a joke. 3Hotdogs May 2018 #21
I am not horrified that she said that. Chemisse May 2018 #24
OF COURSE it's not a "firable offense." BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #25
Mick Mulvaney is "Awful", and "A Joke" DownFromTheMountain May 2018 #26
Mellon head mulvaney.. cpmx2006 May 2018 #27
Those in the meeting thought xxqqqzme May 2018 #28
Sociopath is as sociopath does. nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2018 #30
Party of high standards and morals, eh? SWBTATTReg May 2018 #31
The.Best.People. bronxiteforever May 2018 #32
Sadler's doing the Correspondant's Dinner, next year. Mc Mike May 2018 #33
Yuk! Yuk! Yuk! And did you hear the one about the time Mulvaney caught the clap??? Vinca May 2018 #35
yeah like the Republicans 2009 emailed 'jokes' about Black people in white house. Sunlei May 2018 #36
Brain cancer....a laugh riot! Dr_Pretorius May 2018 #37

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
29. No, Mulvaney
Sat May 12, 2018, 10:49 PM
May 2018

Jokes are funny. Her remark was not even meant as a joke, so stop with the BS already. Nobody at that table thought she was making a joke. These are the same people who lost their minds over "good smokey eye" remark but think disparaging a man dying of cancer is funny ? Also, look up "glioblastoma." It can be excruciatingly painful.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
15. Exactly.
Sat May 12, 2018, 05:27 PM
May 2018

Where's the irony that makes you go "ha ha"? Without that, it's just a cold, unfeeling statement by an uncaring person.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
5. Hey Mulvaney! Your wife is a filthy whore. Just joking!!
Sat May 12, 2018, 04:31 PM
May 2018

Is that the standard we have now? Triumph the Insult Dog's "just keeding" anytime you get caught saying something horrendous?

MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
6. So Kathy Griffin joked
Sat May 12, 2018, 04:36 PM
May 2018

with a prop of bloody severed Dotard head and lost her job. What’s the difference? Hmmmm. What could it be? Oh I know! IOKIYAR. 🤬

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
7. "Mick Mulvaney, you are not worth the scraping from my shoes, at least manure is fertilizer!
Sat May 12, 2018, 04:51 PM
May 2018

"Don't take it seriously, Mick, it was just a joke." "Does that make it all better?"

8. Being on the president's staff doesn't give you carte blanche to be a jerk.
Sat May 12, 2018, 04:52 PM
May 2018

When I worked as a legal assistant (law clerk) for a circuit judge in South Carolina I knew intuitively there were just some things you didn't say in public or private. He would have fired me immediately had he heard that I made such a comment about someone. Maybe it was because he was a Southerner, or maybe because he was a gentleman, or maybe both, but it was understood without saying that there were just things you didn't say or do.

The tone is set at the top. Trump is still pissed that Rob Porter, his wife-beating secretary, got fired, and is trying to figure some way to get him back into the WH.

And he's still pissed at McCain for voting against his attempt to kill the Affordable Care Act.

So why should he fire someone who says what he is thinking?

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
9. somebody has a less than hilarious sense of humor.
Sat May 12, 2018, 04:59 PM
May 2018

But, in Trump's white house, I can see where that type of sick non-humor could be appreciated.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
12. Well, I hope you feel the same way....
Sat May 12, 2018, 05:08 PM
May 2018

when someone close to YOU is on their deathbed. Pompous jackasses. They just can't admit when they're wrong. They see an apology as a sign of weakness. I've noticed this in many acquaintances who suffer from being Republicans as well.

Chemisse

(30,810 posts)
23. Oh no. It'll all be 'different' then.
Sat May 12, 2018, 06:52 PM
May 2018

Just like the jokes at the correspondent's dinner were just so offensive, but Trump's disgusting statements later dubbed as 'just jokes' are A-okay.

dlk

(11,561 posts)
13. "It Was a Joke" is Classic Abuser Rationalization
Sat May 12, 2018, 05:09 PM
May 2018

and a lame attempt at cover for their very intentional put-down.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
14. and how long until we're expected to accept this horrid shit in public too?
Sat May 12, 2018, 05:16 PM
May 2018

the separation of standards for public vs. private interactions is only preparation for lowering standards across the board - and Trump has already driven them quite low. personally i find it much easier to comport myself in "private" meetings identically to how i would in public - just keeps things simple. but then again, it's all more difficult if you're a stable genius.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
17. That's the typical republican response to being called on on their shit.
Sat May 12, 2018, 05:44 PM
May 2018

Be it mocking a dying man, spewing racist and misogynist garbage, they always claim "It was a joke." when people criticize them for it. Every time.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
18. Intending it to be a joke doesn't diminish its awfulness.
Sat May 12, 2018, 05:58 PM
May 2018

At best it shows severely impaired judgment and lack of character, at worst, sociopathy.

In either case, why am I paying this person's salary?

Chemisse

(30,810 posts)
24. I am not horrified that she said that.
Sat May 12, 2018, 06:54 PM
May 2018

I am horrified that she thinks it. That she is that cold. That the others around her are so equally heartless that she feels it's okay to say it.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
25. OF COURSE it's not a "firable offense."
Sat May 12, 2018, 07:10 PM
May 2018

Domestic assault wasn't a firing offense, until they were forced into it.

And, of course the big take-away is not that it was said, but that it was leaked. As we all know, WH meetings have the sanctity of the confessional.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
28. Those in the meeting thought
Sat May 12, 2018, 10:14 PM
May 2018

it was a 'joke' because they all laughed?



Is a 'private meeting' talk the same as 'locker room talk'?


It is difficult keeping up with all their excuses for classless behavior.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
31. Party of high standards and morals, eh?
Sun May 13, 2018, 05:13 AM
May 2018

The GOP and RUMP show once again, their lack of decency and morals, to one of their own, who perhaps is near death. Instead of being honored for his service to our country, a few are mocking his service and morals. Despite being a repug, I do remember when McCain corrected the elderly lady in the audience that Obama was not a muslim, and was born in Hawaii.

I'm embarrassed to be an American, where have our high standards gone? Instead of draining the swamp, RUMP has dug the swamp deeper and opened the floodgates wider. Instead of pointing out American abilities and talents, RUMP has instead, shown the world and Americans the worst of American behavior and his abject failures as a so called leader.

No other administration in recent times that I'm personally aware of has shown so much disregard for the rule of law, or 'Christian behavior' (Christian behavior that we grew up w/, as treat all as your neighbor or family, give your shirt if needed, etc.). I've seen the punch of the elbow to the face of the one RUMP protester being escorted off of a RUMP rally a couple of years back, never forgot it, never will. Kathy Griffin, welcome back. Her behavior is nothing compared to the rampant racism, bigotry, and hate that we are seeing with RUMP and his followers.

Disgusting behavior and no excuse for, period. I am not alone in this thinking. Personally, I think we are the new silent majority, believe it or not. A vast number of the people I talk to are disgusted w/ RUMP's behavior, and I think you will see this more and more in the months to come during our next election cycle. I can sense a backlash coming in November 2018, and it will leave RUMP and his cronies gasping for their last breath before it's too late.

I will stand up for decency, and will not be bullied. Besides giving money for campaigns, I guarantee you that I'll make sure at least 10 people besides me go vote. I'll personally make sure that they go vote. Each little bit helps. No more of this pathetic excuse you call a president.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
35. Yuk! Yuk! Yuk! And did you hear the one about the time Mulvaney caught the clap???
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:18 AM
May 2018
Real knee slapper.

Dr_Pretorius

(71 posts)
37. Brain cancer....a laugh riot!
Sun May 13, 2018, 11:22 AM
May 2018

But thank you to Mr. Mulvaney for confirming for the trump bumpkins that scum-of-the-Earth Sadler made the comment.

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