UPDATED: Trump pledges to help Chinese phonemaker ZTE 'get back into business'
Last edited Sun May 13, 2018, 05:37 PM - Edit history (1)
Source: The Washington Post
By Tony Romm and Damian Paletta May 13 at 12:25 PM
President Trump pledged on Sunday to help Chinese telecom giant ZTE return to business, days after the company said it would cease major operating activities because of the U.S. governments recent trade restrictions, a stunning shift in tone for a president who has long accused China of stealing U.S. jobs.
President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast, Trump tweeted. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!
The comment could presage a reversal of one of the Trump administrations toughest actions to date against a Chinese company. In April, the Commerce Department penalized ZTE for violating a settlement with the U.S. government over illegal shipments to Iran and North Korea. As a result, the Trump administration barred U.S. firms for seven years from exporting critical microchips and other parts to ZTE, the world's fourth-largest smartphone manufacturer.
Lacking those components, ZTE halted operations, stressing in a statement Wednesday that it is actively communicating with the relevant U.S. government departments in order to facilitate the modification or reversal of the Commerce Departments order.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/05/13/trump-pledges-to-help-chinese-phone-maker-zte-get-back-into-business
UPDATE:
Promising Chinese Jobs, Trump Commits To Backing Off Iran Sanctions Violator ZTE
By Matt Shuham | May 13, 2018 1:20 pm
After the Commerce Department last month ordered American companies to stop selling products to the Chinese telecom giant ZTE, President Donald Trump on Sunday appeared to commit to reversing that ban.
Link to tweet
In a 2017 settlement, ZTE pleaded guilty to evading U.S. sanctions against Iran and North Korea and agreed to pay a $1.2 billion combined penalty, breaking the record for such sanction penalties.
Then, last month, the Commerce Department issued a denial order against the company, asserting that it had not properly held relevant employees accountable for the sanctions violations and that it had misled U.S. officials, therefore violating the settlement terms. As a result, American manufacturers of crucial components like microchips were barred from selling to ZTE.
The provision of false statements to the U.S. Government, despite repeated protestations from the company that it has engaged in a sustained effort to turn the page on past misdeeds, is indicative of a company incapable of being, or unwilling to be, a reliable and trustworthy recipient of U.S.-origin goods, software, and technology, the Commerce Departments seven-year denial order read in part.
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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/promising-chinese-jobs-trump-commits-to-backing-off-iran-sanctions-violator-zte
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)And are known to spy on you. Trump can help them get back into business, but good luck trying to get anyone to switch from Galaxy and iPhone.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)spookie as shit to walk in that place and everyone is staring at their devices.
Initech
(100,068 posts)$400 cheaper than the 256GB iPhone X and it does everything I want. Family Guy had a great bit last week where they're at a restaurant and a waiter staring at their phone trips and starts a fire, and then *EVERYONE* in the restaurant is looking at their phones while the fire breaks out. Then you see a guy: "Submitted for your approval - a restaurant full of people so controlled by their devices that they don't realize they're about to be on fire." So true!
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)I may get one tomorrow, I hate my iPhone, everything with apple is have to logon this and that and dealing with apple on anything is horrible! paid a fortune for apple custom care, all the freaking bells and whistles..... what a waste of money!
Thanks for listening & the tip
Initech
(100,068 posts)It's definitely a great phone and saving the extra $400 in the long run - totally worth it!
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)His brain wipes clean and he's off on a new tangent.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)fox=Republican State TV (propaganda)
Initech
(100,068 posts)Because they know he has it on 24 hours a day. And that's scary.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Unreal but all too real.
brush
(53,776 posts)If he going to help a phone company, help an American one with jobs here.
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)Once that bit of awkwardness about built in spyware sending data back home to China was sorted out it's been a good phone. And to their credit *many* Chinese/Asian phonemakers were hit by the firmware spying that was inserted earlier in the supply chain but BLU was open about it, apologized & fixed the problem. Subsequent models have not had it & have had many small but very nice improvements. The quality of the phone & firmware has been excellent & there was a bare minimum of pre-installed bloatware. Mostly just things beyond their control, like the on screen keyboard they selected added advertisement notices with an upgrade a year later. But that's Android - start with a bare system, add apps deemed necessary & sell it. Once you get used to the idea that as a consumer you can control what on screen keyboard you choose to use, the maker of the phone only matters if the physical quality is bad or they prevent you from removing/reverting the software they bundle at time of sale. BLU has been really good so far on both accounts.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)every update it tries to re install the damn flashlight
sarchasm
(1,012 posts).. the "flashlight" in IOS is not an app.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)and having to logon everywhere to even download a damn app like UBER, LYFT, DOORDASH.
or their safari browser. or their stupid volume problems. or their picture delete problems. or their crappy camera.....
or their 250.00 extra 'custom care' package.
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)I have a ZTE ZMAX Pro phablet. It was only phone in my budget that had an octa-core CPU and a 1920 x 1080 6" screen. Bought it 16 months ago, and still working great. Final cost was $70 after all discounts and rebate.
Furthermore, let me clue you in on something, a lot of people getting lifeline phones are getting ZTEs.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)<sarcasm>
Schiff: **** ZTE technology and phones pose a major cyber security threat.
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2058829
Pentagon Bans Sale of Chinese Phones on U.S. Military Bases (ZTE)
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2058955
Initech
(100,068 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)The reason I said nobody wants them is that most of the major providers cut ties with them after the spying incident. I would give them a shot if I were traveling internationally and needed an inexpensive phone that could travel between countries because one thing they do have is dual SIM capability and that's something that is very lacking in nearly all of the modern US smartphones.
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)Schiff: **** ZTE technology and phones pose a major cyber security threat.
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2058829
Pentagon Bans Sale of Chinese Phones on U.S. Military Bases (ZTE)
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2058955
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)The thing I'm always worried about with 2nd and 3rd tier cell phone manufacturers and providers is that they're usually known for screwing over their customers. Look at providers like Boost, Cricket, Metro PCS, and Smart Talk- they intentionally target low income people and make it seem like their plans and devices are affordable but if you read the fine print they can be just as expensive as the first tier providers if not more so.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)it's that many can not afford to outright buy a samsung or apple or go with a first rate carrier and plans for cheaper phones are cheaper per month which how many people pay .
That's the appeal and they are using low phones for thier house phones not to tweet and instragram all day and take pics . So some are using cheap zte phones but using reliable carriers too. Just the apps are bad etc. and they don't need the apps as much as they need a phone that's affordable, again to them in thier situation
Again it is all about money , mostly not having it upfront, but needing a phone number .
Do they know it's not the best phone , or thier carrier is not the best ? yes of course but it's what they can afford . The same people shopping at the dollar store for items are quite aware they are not top brand or quality too. The naivety isn't the issue as much as cash imo
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)WTF? What the actual fuck?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)Thank you for responding back!
LMAO
I am laughing at myself big time.
AC_Mem
(1,979 posts)This thing is creating destruction that is affecting the WORLD. How is this even happening???
I am not one big on biblical prophecy, but this really does seem like Satan unleashed.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)That's the standard way to get the Trump administration to do what you want, isn't it?
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)The ban was on US companies selling components & materials to ZTE. Not the brightest move.
Companies like Corning, Qualcomm & Google have taken a sales/profit hit because of his ban & so have their investors.
https://www.pcmag.com/commentary/360451/new-trade-war-targets-china-zte-but-us-firms-caught-in-cros
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-zte-suppliers/zte-ban-hits-shares-of-u-s-optical-component-suppliers-idUSKBN1HN1ZQ
https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-zte-battle-u-s-suppliers-are-collateral-damage-1524562201
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)during the USA economic crash 2008/2009 when American citizens were desperate for good Jobs.
Republicans & their Corporate friends China flooded USA market with underpriced panels and that ready to open factory had to not open their doors!
How soon people forget how that party of anti-Americans- never created jobs ever.
SWBTATTReg
(22,114 posts)likes foreign businesses better than American companies eh? Why wouldn't he let (as though he has any input to the whole process of the ATT merger w/ another company (Time Warner) to proceed (what Rudi G. has been going on and on about)...
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)The US Government has penalized them for violating sanctions and suspected they put backdoors or spyware into their phones.
TeamPooka
(24,223 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)get their clothing lines made in China. The horror of having to pay their foreign seamstresses more has caused this uproar.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)mentions chinese bribes and payoffs. Im not surprised. He will sell off our security to china as well as russia.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)of/when this deep involvement with Chyyyyna might see some daylight:
Doodley
(9,088 posts)Clarity2
(1,009 posts)Never forgot about that (despite having a tough time remembering most stories) and been waiting and waiting. Although there were times I thought maybe this was the small part of dossier that may be inaccurate, and some bad actor may have misled to deflect from russia!
duforsure
(11,885 posts)How much they are putting into his re-election PAC , which he can funnel that back into his pockets.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts). . . and the memory of Ellen Degeneres' character from Finding Nemo.
riversedge
(70,204 posts)This is a major problem. damn!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/05/13/trump-pledges-to-help-chinese-phone-maker-zte-get-back-into-business/?utm_term=.68119bf53cca
...............Its highly unusual for a president to personally intervene in a regulatory matter and could undercut the leverage of Treasury and Commerce officials seeking to enforce sanctions and trade rules. It could send the signal to foreign leaders that anything can be put on the bargaining table as Trump seeks to cut trade deals, trade analysts said.
"It seems to cut across the concern about tech competition with China, supplying Iran, and jobs in China, so it all seems pretty confusing," Adam Segal, the director of the Digital and Cyberspace Policy Program at the Council on Foreign Relations, said of Trump's tweet. "Thats why everybodys so flabbergasted by it. Weve had from the beginning of this administration an increased drumbeat of warnings about ZTE and Huawei and the threat to U.S. security by having any of their products in the United States or U.S. supply chains. Weve seen that from the FBI, the intelligence community and DOD that this is just too much of a threat, and that these companies are a threat to U.S. technological leadership going forward."
ZTE's business in the United States has long raised concerns among national security officials. Shortly after Trump's tweet, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) said, "Our intelligence agencies have warned that ZTE technology and phones pose a major cyber security threat. You should care more about our national security than Chinese jobs."
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment. A ZTE spokesman also did not respond to an email seeking comment.
Trump is trying to broker a historic agreement with North Korea in an attempt to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula. The president has said that his economic approach to China is linked to his national security strategy, and China plays an integral part in any decision made by North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Trump's tweet on Sunday comes just days before U.S. officials are planning to meet with Liu He, one of Chinese President Xi Jinping's closest advisers, to discuss the strained trade ties. That meeting is expected to be held in Washington this week or next..............................
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)riversedge
(70,204 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)Paladin
(28,254 posts)Looking forward to assorted trump whores' explanations of what a good deal this is......
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)My wife has a smart phone. If she is in the other room when her phone rings where I am, I don't even know how to answer it. If it was smart, it would know how to answer itself.
Botany
(70,501 posts)One more part of the Steele Dossier is being proven true .... the Chinese own Trump too.
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Marcuse
(7,479 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)Peace talks.
alp227
(32,020 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,788 posts)Pentagon Bans Sale of Chinese Phones on U.S. Military Bases (ZTE)
The Pentagon is moving to stop the sale of Chinese-made phones from Huawei Technologies Co. and ZTE Corp. in and near U.S. military base stores for potential security threats they say the devices could pose.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142050357
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)He could not stop talking about the US being screwed by China. He's nuts.
Takket
(21,563 posts)Alethia Merritt
(147 posts)Why else would he do this? That's more help than is given to US small businesses.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Getting labor laws changed so they can outsource sweatshop slave labor to the good old US of A.
Likely prison labor.