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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed May 23, 2018, 09:57 AM May 2018

Trump Blames China's Xi Jinping for Sabotaging the Kim Jong Un Summit

Source: The Daily Beast




After that surprise second meeting with Xi this month, the North Korean leader suddenly moved back to the dark side in his dealings with the United States.

GORDON G. CHANG
05.23.18 5:52 AM ET

President Donald Trump met his South Korean counterpart in the White House on Tuesday, publicly acknowledged his planned summit with Kim Jong Un may never take place, and called out China’s ruler for sabotaging the denuclearization process.

It was about time the American leader recognized his North Korea policy was hitting roadblocks.

Just past noon, Trump faced the press with Moon Jae-in, the South Korean president, who flew in from Asia for a meeting that initially was scheduled for only two hours. “This time last week, Moon was coming here with the intention of trying to heavily script what Trump would do in his meeting with Kim,” Victor Cha, senior Asia director for George W. Bush’s National Security Council, told The Washington Post. “Now, he’s coming here just to try to save the summit. The mission has really changed.”

Last week, the North Koreans, who this year gave the impression they had turned over a new leaf, began acting like North Koreans again. They abruptly canceled high-level talks with Seoul, scheduled for last Wednesday, and cast doubt on their willingness to meet with Trump in Singapore on June 12. They cited their displeasure with long-scheduled joint military exercises and with John Bolton, Trump’s new national security adviser.

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-blames-chinas-xi-jinping-for-sabotaging-the-kim-jong-un-summit

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Trump Blames China's Xi Jinping for Sabotaging the Kim Jong Un Summit (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
Jilted lover in love triangle blames rival dalton99a May 2018 #1
He thinks that he can intimadate these guys. He isn't dealing with a plummer he is cheating. olegramps May 2018 #8
+1 jpak May 2018 #11
Trumps core competency not dealmaking w powerful counter-parties. Its duping gullible victims - Frum Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #12
Thanks, phonics isn't my strong suit, if I really had any. olegramps May 2018 #17
You do have strong suits. Plumber comes from Latin for lead, hence the chem element symbol is Pb. Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #18
You know I even have a degree in chemistry and Pb is lead. Kind of dumb of me at best. olegramps May 2018 #19
How To Win Friends And Influence People..... global1 May 2018 #2
Trump was already kissing that Nobel Peace prize left-of-center2012 May 2018 #3
They didn't like Bolton's threats and demands, and said so. Trump is not negotiating, he is notdarkyet May 2018 #4
Gee, I wonder if it had anything to do with Bolton talking about using the Libya model for NK? Arkansas Granny May 2018 #5
Hasn't progressed much passed tic-tac-toe C_U_L8R May 2018 #6
Xi a more powerful player than Trump. Dotard gets benched. Sneederbunk May 2018 #7
the Chinese Cat toying with the tRump mouse. nt Javaman May 2018 #9
But...but...but.. Beautiful Chocolate Cake! jpak May 2018 #10
Though I would love to hang this "change" on Bolton - and his comments could have karynnj May 2018 #13
I thought he was your friend, Donny? BlueStater May 2018 #14
I'm surprised he isn't blaming Obama. Always someone else's fault, isn't it? flibbitygiblets May 2018 #15
Behind closed doors -- lanlady May 2018 #16

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
8. He thinks that he can intimadate these guys. He isn't dealing with a plummer he is cheating.
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:36 AM
May 2018

These guys play for keeps and are just as ruthless as they come. He actually believes he can intimidate a country with 1.4 Billion people and North Korea that can wipe out Seoul is a matter of minutes. Trump is nothing more than a two-bit con man that is appealing to the bottom feeders of the bottom feeders that belong to the criminal enterprise know as the Republican Party. It has been a constant string of scandals by the Republicans dating from the Nixon and only interrupted by Democratic administrations. The Clinton fiasco was like a fart in a wind storm compared to what the Republicans continue to spawn. Best he can hope for is to get his deposit back on the Tux he ordered.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
12. Trumps core competency not dealmaking w powerful counter-parties. Its duping gullible victims - Frum
Wed May 23, 2018, 11:58 AM
May 2018

Nor is he dealing with a plumber.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
18. You do have strong suits. Plumber comes from Latin for lead, hence the chem element symbol is Pb.
Thu May 24, 2018, 04:19 PM
May 2018

Think of lead pipes when you think of plumbing or plumbers or plumb line (vertical line) or the verb to plumb. Then from lead pipes you can think of Pb and then you have the spelling secure.

global1

(25,245 posts)
2. How To Win Friends And Influence People.....
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:06 AM
May 2018

Trump really knows how to make a deal. A real winner. Huh?

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
4. They didn't like Bolton's threats and demands, and said so. Trump is not negotiating, he is
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:18 AM
May 2018

Threatening. That’s the only way trump goes, his jway or no way. But blame it on anyone but his team. Idiot.

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
5. Gee, I wonder if it had anything to do with Bolton talking about using the Libya model for NK?
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:19 AM
May 2018

Surely not.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
13. Though I would love to hang this "change" on Bolton - and his comments could have
Wed May 23, 2018, 12:35 PM
May 2018

upset a fragile process if it ever were serious, I think that it is not that the North Koreans are "North Koreans again" but that those who were very optimistic, were intentionally deluding themselves.

Looking back at comments from Obama and Bush foreign policy people, they all wished him success, but all cautioned that it likely would not be easy. The Trump team, on the other hand, seemed to think it could all be done and wrapped as a present with a big bow on the day that Trump was there.

Trump, by accepting a summit, before any low level discussions had happened, turned the process upside down. Consider, that Obama even weeks before the final Iran deal was made - after a very strong framework had been disclosed a few months ago, when asked put the chances of success as no higher than 50/50. (I assume that privately he was more optimistic) Many accounts, including from Wendy Sherman and John Kerry, made the point that even in the last week, it could have failed to happen. If it had failed, it is likely Kerry and his peers would have set a future meeting because they all agreed that they were close. The story would then have been - no deal, but they are still working -- and Obama would not have had to say anything.

In Trump's case -- he was committed to the June meeting AND he both his presence and his words had set expectations sky high that NK would be completely giving up a nuclear deal and that there was a real likelihood of the start of getting a peace treaty ending the Korean War. Now, he and the far right are looking for others to blame for something that they declared at hand when it wasn't.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
16. Behind closed doors --
Wed May 23, 2018, 07:06 PM
May 2018

Trump is probably blaming Bolton and that pompous Pompeo. Anyone but his own idiot self for accepting the invitation without seeking out expert opinion first.

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