Israeli military says 27 mortar shells fired from Gaza

[oberliner]

Source: The Guardian

A barrage of 27 mortar shells from Gaza has been launched into southern Israel, the country’s military has said, the largest number fired in a single incident since the 2014 war with Hamas.

There were no casualties, and the Israeli armed forces said its Iron Dome aerial defence system intercepted most of the projectiles. No group immediately claimed responsibility for the attack.

Sirens sounded in communities living near the coastal enclave, and photos shared on social media showed what appeared to be an exploded shell casing at a playground.`

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/29/israel-military-says-mortar-shells-fired-from-gaza

[TimeSnowDemos]

1. Time to go

Murder more women and children I guess.

Because we've seen how well that works.

[oberliner]

2. Gaza casualties have primarily been adult men

In this case, Hamas is firing rockets into Israel from Gaza.

[TimeSnowDemos]

3. Ah

LOL

Love how some on the left will do anything to justify murder.

UN: 80 per cent of Palestinians killed in Israeli offensive are civilians

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10967279/UN-80-per-cent-of-Palestinians-killed-in-Israeli-offensive-are-civilians.html

That's one example, but it illustrates the majority of Israeli action.

Murdering people, stealing their land, bombing UN outposts, illegally creating WMDs... all while being led by a corrupt HARD right government...

Only in America is a country like this protected by the "left".

[oberliner]

7. That's from 2014

And the figures provided in your link indicate that the vast majority of those killed were adult men.

[TimeSnowDemos]

11. Again

Anything to justify mass murder. Not surprising at all.

[TimeSnowDemos]

4. Also

Palestinian children have suffered disproportionately as a result of the Israeli Occupation

Human rights organizations report systemic abuse of children by Israeli security forces.

"1,518 Palestinian children were killed by Israel’s occupation forces from the outbreak of the second Intifada in September 2000 up to April 2013"

https://www.salon.com/2015/07/29/palestinian_children_have_suffered_disproportionately_as_a_result_of_the_israeli_occupation/

[oberliner]

8. There is no disputing that Palestinian children have suffered

However, the vast majority of those killed have been adult men, which is all I had asserted.

Also, this article is about Hamas firing rockets into Israel and one of them hitting a kindergarten playground.

[TimeSnowDemos]

13. Lol

With friends like you who needs enemies.

[MFM008]

5. Have we forgotten

2014 ?
Where hundreds of children and babies were killed in that conflict?
Everytime a distraction is needed from scandal another
"Operation" is performed.
I fully expect another, with Donald J Maggots permission of course, anything to get the news off Russia and corruption.

[oberliner]

9. This article is about what happened today, not in 2014

Rockets from Gaza landing in a school playground in Israel.

[MFM008]

23. My point was

Get prepared for another IDF operation distraction.

[FBaggins]

18. We've seen how well that works?

Have we not also seen how well mortar/rocket attacks from Gaza "work"?

Which is to say "not at all" unless their goal is for the retaliatory strikes to occur?

[leftynyc]

6. And once again

the terrorist hamas prove they don't give a crap about their own people. I mean, WTF do they think Israel is going to do? Lay down and allow rockets to fall into their country without defending themselves? What country would? And, of course, there will be those who IGNORE what precipitates Israel having to defend themselves and IGNORE that a terrorist organization has been running Gaza for many years already (elected). Madness.

[Jedi Guy]

14. The ignoring is already happening.

Right here on this very thread. I guess Israel should just meekly allow people to lob explosives into their cities. That's how some folks see it, apparently...

[leftynyc]

16. I must have them ignored

for that very reason. Got tired of the the Israel is the root of all evil nonsense so many on the left love to engage in. Not worth my time.

[Jedi Guy]

29. Yeah, I can understand how infuriating it must be.

The willful ignorance and blindness is difficult to stomach. It seems that some folks expect the Israelis to meekly allow themselves to be murdered. Apparently "Never again" wasn't clear to those people.

[MosheFeingold]

26. I'm not sure what the knee-jerk anti Israel people propose.

What, exactly, should a country do if being attacked? Sing songs? Send prayers and thoughts? Maybe make one of those teddy bear memorials?

I was recently in El Paso to visit a shul, and pondered what the USA would do if Mexico lobbed artillery into El Paso from Juarez. (I thought this because a stray bullet had indeed landed in a school from cross border violence.). Apparently Obama threatened to send in the Marines of Mexico didn't get it under control. It worked.

A people is entitled to end a violent and pending threat against them. It's basic self defense.

But apparently not if you are Jewish.

[Jedi Guy]

28. It's pretty disgusting, honestly.

Hamas uses civilians as shields, putting their mortars and launchers atop schools and hospitals. If Israel does nothing, their civilians will be killed. If Israel does something, they're monsters. Damned no matter what they do. But no one calls out Hamas for that, or launching bombs blindly into Israel. It's only Israel that's condemned.

Golda Meir was right when she observed that the Palestinians hate Israelis more than they love their own children. Hell, the Palestinians use cartoon macros to encourage their children to become martyrs in order to kill Israelis. That's the sign of real sickness.

It really seems like some on the left won't be happy unless and until Israelis simply lie down and allow themselves to be butchered.

[DavidDvorkin]

31. They aren't saying it on DU, but I think a lot of them want the Israeli population to leave

They want Israel to evaporate.

Given that over 50% of Israelis are now Mizrachi, that raises an interesting question -- one I wouldn't expect to see answered honestly and seriously on DU.

[Fred Sanders]

10. The false equivalence of a few unguided bottle rockets being lofted a few miles from an

open air prison of Gaza resulting in nary a scratch to anyone, versus the mass slaughter of hundreds and thousands of civilians, including children, in that prison by sophisticated weaponry and million dollar missiles is.....appalling.

Does only one side have the right to self defence and freedom, the not brown side?

Rockets versus human lives....same thing, right?

[WiseElder]

12. Mortars same as bottle rockets ???

Wonder why even Egypt has closed its border with Gaza?

Reality is that all the other Arab countries use the people in Gaza as pawns. If they wanted them out of there it could have happened generations back.

[oberliner]

15. The mass slaughter of hundreds of thousands of civilians?

Is this something you believe occurred?

[Fred Sanders]

24. Reading comprehension is a good thing!

[leftynyc]

17. And once again

you lay zero blame on the TERRORISTS that are the leaders of gaza (while you also ignore that another whole country has a border with the Palestinians they were forced to close for the very same reasons). WTF do they think is going to happen when they lob rockets into Israel? What country would put up with that crap?

[FBaggins]

19. Mass slaughter?

The recent reporting indicated about 60 people killed when there were tens of thousands supposedly "protesting" next to the fence.

If their intent was "mass slaughter"... how many seconds would it take to kill 60 people in a crowd of thousands in plain view of soldiers with tanks, attack aircraft, automatic weapons, etc. ???

[Fred Sanders]

25. So NOT hundreds killed, just 60, a few kids, not to mention hundreds gravely wounded...is

"restraint"?

You know what, let us try that in a court of law...ooops, Israel does not believe in courts or law.

Of course every justification from "human shields" to "self- defence response" to "restraint" would be summarily dismissed and mass mirderers would face justice...better not go there!

[FBaggins]

30. So your scale goes stright from "mass slaughter" to "restraint"?

How nuanced of you.

With >1,000 wounded to just a few dozen killed (and with the overwhelming majority of those being Hamas members)... we could argue whether that counts as "restraint"... but it certainly demonstrates that they're going out of their way to avoid killing. "Mass slaughter" is well beyond hyperbole and closer to dishonesty.

As for the rest? It's laughable to discus who believes in courts or law when one side actually has both and the other side is Hamas.

[Fred Sanders]

33. Overwhelming Hamas? Says who? Yes, a few kids and babies mixed in...what ya gonna do?

Almost irrelevant to some, major issue to me is children killed....different priorities for the blindfolded.

[FBaggins]

34. Says Salah Al Bardawil

He says it's the official figure. 80%+ of the recent fatalities were members of Hamas.

Yes, a few kids and babies mixed in...what ya gonna do? Almost irrelevant to some, major issue to me is children killed....different priorities for the blindfolded

How ironic.

One would think that anyone who truly thought that the death of children in this conflict was a "major issue" would oppose Hamas' tactics... since they are the side that wants the kids to die.

[Fred Sanders]

35. The "human shield" argument is pathetic...anyway, why argue, let us have an independent

investigation...waiting for response...waiting...

[FBaggins]

36. I didn't make the "human shield" argument

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That would be the case when they, for instance, launch rocket/mortar attacks in a schoolyard so that any counterbattery fire would endanger children.

That's bad enough (and it most certainly is part of their strategy - merely trying to label is as "pathetic" is nonsensical)... but it isn't what I'm saying. I'm outright claiming that their intent is for Palestinian children to die and that they actively try to make it happen (including plausible shooting them themselves).

[leftynyc]

32. And WHO brought those children

to the border where they were INCITING violence? Why it was those lovely innocent kittens from the TERRORIST hamas, promising more money to any people who martyr their children. What kind of parents put their children IN FRONT of them when they are inciting violence?

It hasn't gone unnoticed that your hyperbolic language has been scaled back in a huge way once you were forced to acknowledge the truth. MORE truth is the disgusting hamas has already admitted a large percent of those killed were their own members.

[Mosby]

20. if arabs are "brown" then so are Jews

And there had been no "mass slaughter" of civilians, you just made that up.

[MosheFeingold]

27. Brown side?

At least get your facts straight. The plurality of Jewish people in Israel are Sephardic expelled during the Nazi-inspired ethnic cleansing of Jews from all the various Middle East countries. They vary in skin color from black to dark brown.

The "Arabs" in Judea and Samaria are fair, tending towards red hair, being that they are descendants of Jewish people who were forcibly converted. Genetically, the closest people to them are Ashkenazi Jews -- the supposed white colonists in your scenario.

Oh and don't forget the 20% of Israelis who are Arab. Important to note the Christians among them are the highest educated and wealthiest subset of Israelis.

[Fozzledick]

21. Another peaceful demonstration by innocent children with harmless bottle rockets.

Those who support Hamas' genocidal aggression against Israel will say anything to justify it.

[WiseElder]

22. Peaceful protest I'm sure

https://www.facebook.com/IsraelUnderFireLive/photos/a.612851318791739.1073741825.269844029759138/1730438877032972/?type=3

[Fred Sanders]

37. Israel and IDF DEMAND independent investigation into monstrous violent protests by

murderous Hamas operatives...oh, never mind. Only the IDF allowed to "investigate" because the Rest of the World and apparently every judicial body in Israel would not be fair...laughable defences, all of them.

Why is no one me engaging me on the topic of an investigation to clear up all these accusations and counter accusations? Let us clear the air! Embarrassing not to be able to defend the rule of law and at the same time defend Israel as a rule of law nation.

Waiting.....