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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 05:57 PM Jun 2018

Sessions cites Bible in defense of breaking up families, blames migrant parents

Source: NBC News





The attorney general, in a speech to law enforcement officers in Indiana, called on his "church friends" not to blame him for the policy.


by Adam Edelman / Jun.14.2018 / 2:54 PM ET / Updated 3:22 PM ET


Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Thursday offered a full-throated defense of the Trump administration's policy of separating children from their parents at the border, saying that having kids does not give migrants immunity from prosecution — and found justification for his policies in the Bible.
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This bible quote by Sessions says nothing about separating kids from parents!!
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In his remarks, Sessions hit back at the "concerns raised by our church friends about separating families," calling the criticism "not fair or logical" and quoting scripture in his defense of the administration's tough policies.

"Persons who violate the law of our nation are subject to prosecution. I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13 to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order," Sessions said. "Orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves and protect the weak and lawful."

He called on religious leaders to "speak up strongly to urge anyone who would come here to apply lawfully, to wait their turn and not violate the law."

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Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/sessions-cites-bible-defense-breaking-families-blames-migrant-parents-n883296




And then the Press Sec Sarah Sanders backs him up (no surprise)!

Later Thursday, White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders doubled down on Sessions' comments, saying it is "very biblical to enforce the law."

"That is actually repeated a number of times throughout the Bible," she said, responding to a question about Sessions' comments about scripture supporting the administration's policies............
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Sessions cites Bible in defense of breaking up families, blames migrant parents (Original Post) riversedge Jun 2018 OP
Sessions and sanders are going to hell someday for lying about the Bible. kimbutgar Jun 2018 #1
Their withered, shriveled nasty souls won't take up too much space there, will they? Jeez. Judi Lynn Jun 2018 #3
Karma is a bitch . . . Iliyah Jun 2018 #2
I saw the clip...the words...the smirking grin...I....near puked...fascism has a face, and not only Fred Sanders Jun 2018 #14
According to their religion, they are both in danger of Hellfire for their lies... Hekate Jun 2018 #4
why im atheist. TalenaGor Jun 2018 #5
Actually, this makes me think more of early days of Nazis and their camps. Old Terp Jun 2018 #6
The concept of a separation of church and state means that procon Jun 2018 #7
Separation of church and state!! old guy Jun 2018 #10
+ a million! joshdawg Jun 2018 #25
If they want to quote scriptures they're opening themselves up to a world of hurt. truthisfreedom Jun 2018 #8
They missed that one. riversedge Jun 2018 #28
sessions legacy weissmam Jun 2018 #9
really? that's the best bible quote he's got? 0rganism Jun 2018 #11
Sessions and his faux Christians make my blood boil OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #16
Here are a few of the Bible passages that Session did not quote: pazzyanne Jun 2018 #12
The old testament supports genocide. Doreen Jun 2018 #13
Donald has grown very close with Indonesia....... OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #17
He's speaking directly to Trump's religious base, Lars39 Jun 2018 #15
Great article right here: forgotmylogin Jun 2018 #18
Defense worked so well at Nuremberg dembotoz Jun 2018 #19
I heard this on the drive home SCVDem Jun 2018 #20
Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, Isaiah 1:10 n/t Julian Englis Jun 2018 #21
Seeking asylum is NOT ILLEGAL... sheesh secondwind Jun 2018 #22
In the republican bible the baby Jesus was taken from his parents when they crossed into Egypt. StTimofEdenRoc Jun 2018 #23
Which part? The slavery part? Does he plan to buy a few kids McCamy Taylor Jun 2018 #24
Waiting for the editorial toon about Baby Jesus Lithos Jun 2018 #26
The timed honored tradition of racists cherry-picking the bible to justify their bigoted shit. Crowman2009 Jun 2018 #27
From AG Holder Gothmog Jun 2018 #29
In other news: "Bolt Of Lightning Strikes AG Out Of The Blue" lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #30

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
3. Their withered, shriveled nasty souls won't take up too much space there, will they? Jeez.
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:04 PM
Jun 2018

Roy Moore, another Republican "christian" wants Jefferson to remember Gawd's commandments, for crissakes. No lies, Jeff.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
14. I saw the clip...the words...the smirking grin...I....near puked...fascism has a face, and not only
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:21 PM
Jun 2018

Trump.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
4. According to their religion, they are both in danger of Hellfire for their lies...
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:10 PM
Jun 2018

Leviticus 19:34

Of course, both of them come from a culture where white preachers taught a very selective Gospel to black slaves in order to maintain peace on the plantation. So, gawd's will and all that.

procon

(15,805 posts)
7. The concept of a separation of church and state means that
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:25 PM
Jun 2018

cherry picking, amatuer theologians like Sessions and Sanders have to find a different document to prop up their lies. The Constitution demands the rule of law, not mythology, making it ever so much harder to shore up Trump's decisions.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
10. Separation of church and state!!
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:47 PM
Jun 2018

We could repeat this a million times and they would still not understand.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
8. If they want to quote scriptures they're opening themselves up to a world of hurt.
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:29 PM
Jun 2018

Do unto others, yada yada.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
11. really? that's the best bible quote he's got?
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:48 PM
Jun 2018

let's just go back to Leviticus, one of the nastiest books in the OT, and have a look at what it says about immigrants:
"The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God." -Leviticus 19:34
our dear Dominionist friends, bless their hearts, are only too happy to cite Leviticus when they want to shit on gay rights, but have to resort to vague "follow the law" bullshit when it comes to immigration.

or how about this?
"When you beat the olives from your trees, do not go over the branches a second time. Leave what remains for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow." -- Deuteronomy 24:20
hmm, what possible underlying message might be there?

furthermore, anything the bible says about following the law needs to be carefully evaluated for context, as the bible does at times distinguish between God's laws and, shall we say, Caesar's laws.

damn i know this much, and i'm an atheist. how is it that our superstitious bronze-age forebears could have a more enlightened take on these matters than our self-professed Christian leaders? they cull what they want from the bible wherever they can to justify the positions they already favor, and claim piety. then, when scripture's message goes against their whims, they simply ignore it.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
16. Sessions and his faux Christians make my blood boil
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:04 PM
Jun 2018

I was that orphaned child at age 3. Words dont describe the pain and confusion

https://m.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
12. Here are a few of the Bible passages that Session did not quote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:01 PM
Jun 2018

Hebrews 13:2
Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares


Matthew 25:40
And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’


Hebrews 13:1-25
Let brotherly love continue. Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. Remember those who are in prison, as though in prison with them, and those who are mistreated, since you also are in the body. Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” ...


These are a few of the over 100 passages that deal with kindness to strangers in your land. I think the tRump administration is in deep doodoo if they are using the Bible to support their border behavior with separating parents and children.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
13. The old testament supports genocide.
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:06 PM
Jun 2018

Is that next one on sessions list? It seems to me that children and wives who disobey the father/husband are to be put to death ( I may be wrong but I thought I heard that ) is that also on his list? Is he going to justify all of the atrocities the bible teaches? Of course while ignoring the true teachings of love, forgiveness, acceptance, caring, and care for others.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
15. He's speaking directly to Trump's religious base,
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:01 PM
Jun 2018

in case any of them were undecided on the subject.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
18. Great article right here:
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:04 PM
Jun 2018
The Bible is rife with examples of every kind of resistance against corrupt rulers—and all of these examples were sanctioned by God, Himself. Thus, we can surmise that simply because a ruler is in power does not mean that God wants that person to stay there. God allows them to rule, but doesn’t necessarily appoint them or endorse their actions.

To bring these examples into our modern age, would you submit to North Korea’s Kim John-un? Would you allow yourself to be subject to Stalin or Genghis Khan?

Would you obey Hitler? Would you give up your Jewish friends or family on the sharp command of an SS soldier?

No—you wouldn’t. That wouldn’t be the love that Paul writes about in verse 8. That wouldn’t be Biblical. That wouldn’t be of God’s character. You would resist, because that would be the only good and righteous choice.

http://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/christianity/the-limits-of-obedience.aspx#hF0VKzZ6UXk2fLVA.99
(emphasis added by poster)
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
20. I heard this on the drive home
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 10:37 PM
Jun 2018

WTF!!! We do not live in a theocracy so take your bible verses and shove them up your holy ass!

I do not wish to live under biblical law!

But if they wish: I am sure all these Christian assholes have worked on the Sabbath.

Shall we put them to death? I am thy god!

 

StTimofEdenRoc

(445 posts)
23. In the republican bible the baby Jesus was taken from his parents when they crossed into Egypt.
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:26 PM
Jun 2018

Do you remember reading in the republican bible the baby Jesus was taken from his parents when they crossed into Egypt? It was in the custody of strangers he learned to ride a dinosaur. Then he worked for Mr. Slate to make money to pay his parents immigration lawyers.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
24. Which part? The slavery part? Does he plan to buy a few kids
Thu Jun 14, 2018, 11:29 PM
Jun 2018

to "foster" i.e put to work as domestics? That is what is going on. There are almost 2000 disappeared children. I wonder how much they are going for and if anyone is vetting the buyers to see if they are wealthy pedos.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
26. Waiting for the editorial toon about Baby Jesus
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 01:12 AM
Jun 2018

Showing an ICE member ripping baby Jesus from Mary's teat....

L-

Crowman2009

(2,497 posts)
27. The timed honored tradition of racists cherry-picking the bible to justify their bigoted shit.
Fri Jun 15, 2018, 09:17 AM
Jun 2018

They also never bother to read any of the verses before of after the one quoted which describe what the verse they referenced specifically refers to.

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