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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 03:28 PM Aug 2018

Judge scolds four men who raped drunk teenage girls in Myrtle Beach instead of giving them jail time

Source: Raw Story

Four men accused of raping a pair of teenage girls at a Myrtle Beach hotel avoided jail time after striking a plea agreement. Edward House, Bryce Charleson, Cody Haux and Jamel Quick agreed to plead guilty to assault and battery charges Thursday in South Carolina.

Each man was sentenced to five years of probation and ordered to have no contact with the victims, who had been visiting from Kentucky.

The girls, then 14 and 15 years old, went for a walk April 9, 2015, while vacationing with the older girl’s family, and they met the four older teenagers. They later told police they drank alcohol and went back to the men’s hotel room, where one girl said she was raped by three of the men and the other girl said she was raped by one of them. They went to an area hospital afterward to report the rapes, and all four men were charged with sexual assault.

However, prosecutors said the circumstances of the cases would require four separate trials, and the victims agreed to support a plea bargain to keep from testifying in each trial.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/judge-scolds-four-men-raped-drunk-teenage-girls-myrtle-beach-instead-giving-jail-time/

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Judge scolds four men who raped drunk teenage girls in Myrtle Beach instead of giving them jail time (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 OP
But you can't say 'fuck' in Myrtle Beach without getting big ticket. sandensea Aug 2018 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author niyad Aug 2018 #2
What do you think the judge should have done onenote Aug 2018 #16
thank you. I should have read the article more carefully. niyad Aug 2018 #25
Seems to me having read the article, the judge had little choice but no jail time and the so Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #23
rawstory is not a news source nt msongs Aug 2018 #3
Here's a link and more info as to why the plea deal uppityperson Aug 2018 #5
I'd bet your sternly worded letter will be very effective. nt, pt 2 LanternWaste Aug 2018 #12
I think you've posted that before left-of-center2012 Aug 2018 #14
RawStory is a news aggregator and links to the source stories it carries. Demit Aug 2018 #19
Am I the only person who reads these kinds of accounts and thinks PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #4
The prosecutor made the deal not the judge and assuming it was the same one in court he is cstanleytech Aug 2018 #6
Wow, that some how makes it worse. rogue emissary Aug 2018 #9
No argument there however I do not see much point in bashing the judge or her cstanleytech Aug 2018 #18
This stinks to high heavens and women can be jerks too. lark Aug 2018 #20
Huh? Are you saying the judge and prosecutor should have pressured the victims onenote Aug 2018 #24
You're not the only one. rogue emissary Aug 2018 #7
THIS sdfernando Aug 2018 #10
Hey, yeah. Maybe like Betsy Devos FiveGoodMen Aug 2018 #21
Not good at all Angry Dragon Aug 2018 #8
Pardon me for a moment Sherman A1 Aug 2018 #11
I'm guessing these rapists are merely "troubled young men" who will never be painted as "thugs" LanternWaste Aug 2018 #13
This was a plea deal that the victims apparently concurred in onenote Aug 2018 #15
You're right. Those blaming the judge only read the headline, not the story. Demit Aug 2018 #17
sad all the way around n/t orleans Aug 2018 #22

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

onenote

(42,714 posts)
16. What do you think the judge should have done
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 04:01 PM
Aug 2018

given that she (the judge) was presented with a plea deal that didn't provide for jail time and rejecting the deal would have forced the victims, against their wishes, to go through four trials.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
23. Seems to me having read the article, the judge had little choice but no jail time and the so
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 06:28 PM
Aug 2018

called scolding may be more like frustration at that very issue.

So the rage is misdirected.

The headline is...clickbait from an internet not news site.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
5. Here's a link and more info as to why the plea deal
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 03:39 PM
Aug 2018
https://wpde.com/news/local/no-jail-time-for-four-men-accused-of-raping-teens-in-myrtle-beach
The prosecution explained that because of the circumstances of the crime there would have to be four separate trials. Because of this, Assistant Solicitor Mary-Ellen Walter said a plea deal would be easier on the victims who didn’t want to relive the crime during trials.
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
19. RawStory is a news aggregator and links to the source stories it carries.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 04:15 PM
Aug 2018

Good grief. Half the stories in major newspapers are wire stories from Associated Press. And thus the papers are not the "source" of those news items, either.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
6. The prosecutor made the deal not the judge and assuming it was the same one in court he is
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 03:44 PM
Aug 2018

actually a she by the name of Mary-Ellen Walter.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
18. No argument there however I do not see much point in bashing the judge or her
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 04:13 PM
Aug 2018

especially if the prosecutor had the victims consent to offer the defendants the plea deal.

lark

(23,105 posts)
20. This stinks to high heavens and women can be jerks too.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 04:55 PM
Aug 2018

Judge and prosecutor should both be fired for taking advantage of very young traumatized victims. I don't believe there had to be 4 separate trials, prosecutor just wanted to up their total or get the girls to accept stupid plea deals where the rapists are free to go out and do the same again. SC where guys can rape young women with no punishment - sickening!

onenote

(42,714 posts)
24. Huh? Are you saying the judge and prosecutor should have pressured the victims
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:31 PM
Aug 2018

to put themselves four trials. And what is your basis for not believing that these defendants would be entitled to four separate trials? The could and would argue, almost certainly with success, that being tried together would be prejudicial. Happens all the time.

It's a shitty situation, but bashing a judge whose only role was either to accept the plea bargain or reject it against the stated wishes of the victims doesn't make any sense.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. I'm guessing these rapists are merely "troubled young men" who will never be painted as "thugs"
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 03:54 PM
Aug 2018

or as part and parcel of the "criminal element."

Bryce and Cody, especially.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
15. This was a plea deal that the victims apparently concurred in
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 04:00 PM
Aug 2018

Blaming the judge? Well, let's consider the judge's options. Accept the plea deal which did not provide for jail time. Or reject the plea deal and force the victims, apparently against their wishes, to go through four trials.

The judge couldn't just impose jail time without a trial and without a deal that provided for jail time.

It sucks, but its strange to see the judge attacked here.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
17. You're right. Those blaming the judge only read the headline, not the story.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 04:08 PM
Aug 2018

Here, for the jumpers-to-conclusions, is what the story says:

"The judge scolded the four men as they were sentenced under the Youthful Offenders Act, and told them they were being granted a second chance.

He also asked the men if they had sisters, and three of them raised their hands.

The judge then asked them to consider what punishment they believed would be justified if their own sisters had been assaulted."


It REALLY irks me when people are too lazy to click through but make snap judgments anyway.

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