Rubio's New Paid Leave Bill Threatens The Very Idea of Social Security, Report Finds
Source: HuffPost
By Emily Peck, Aug. 30, 2018, 12:00am ET
His proposal would cut lifetime benefits between 3 and 10 percent and cost $10 billion a year.
The paid maternity and paternity leave bill proposed by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) would offer meaningful benefits for new parents but only at a grave cost to Americans retirement savings and the core idea of Social Security, according to a new analysis from the Urban Institute.
The nonpartisan think-tank is the first to delve deeply into the particulars of Rubios bill, which he unveiled in early August. Its unclear whether it has enough GOP support to even get off the ground, but the idea of paid leave has been gaining favor with Republicans recently thanks, in part, to the efforts of White House aide and first daughter Ivanka Trump.
Unlike the paid leave bill supported by congressional Democrats that is funded by a small payroll tax paid by employees and employers, Rubios Economic Security For New Parents Act taps Social Security funds. The bill provides new parents anywhere from 55 to 80 percent of their regular pre-tax pay for two or three months, but it borrows from their future retirement accounts to do so.
The bills supporters say the only cost to parents is a slight delay in retirement- which is fine, they say, since Americans want to work longer anyway. Rubio has also touted the bill as budget neutral. Neither claim is quite accurate, the new report shows...More...
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The new analysis found that a parent using Rubios leave benefit would see a significant lifetime reduction in Social Security benefits- between 3 and 10 %; and those who take leave would have to pay back the money, with interest, upon retirement, and at that point, it could be as much as 4 times what they took out.
Theres already a concern about retirement security and income. And people are increasingly entering retirement with mortgages and other kinds of debt. The idea we would reduce those retirement incomes further is scary."- Richard W. Johnson, a senior fellow at the Urban Institute. The bill raises basic questions about Social Security itself, a highly successful program designed as social insurance to gird Americans against the financial risks of old age. Rubios proposal would transform Social Security from mandatory social insurance to essentially a forced savings account.
The US is one of only a small number of countries that dont offer women some kind of paid maternity leave benefit, and it is the only developed country with no paid leave. Polling shows wide and growing bipartisan support for changing this. The Rubio bill also fails to cover the vast majority of Americans who need paid family leave, for reasons other than a new child. Currently 70% of people who take unpaid leave through the federal family leave act, do so to care for a sick family member including children, or for their own illness.
Ivanka Trump has been pushing the GOP on the paid leave issue.
SamKnause
(13,107 posts)appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)and backward. And many Americans are unaware that other nations do provide family and personal leave that is paid for-- and not by robbing Social Security!
SamKnause
(13,107 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,193 posts)Shortly after I moved to Canada, a colleague was going on maternity leave and I asked how she could afford not to work for a year. She gave me this weird look and said, "I just go on mat leave and get paid a portion of my normal income." I'd never heard of such a thing.
Canada has its shit together.
ETA: Also, new fathers are able to take paternity leave if they want to.
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)suffer unless in the top 10% maybe. Stressed, worried and deprived more every year it seems in terms of health and welfare, finances and quality of life. Like Canada, most European countries also receive paid maternal and paternal leave, 3 weeks vacay usually, etc.
SEE Michael Moore's latest movie- "Where to Invade Next" (2016). His interviews with Europeans are enlightening:
a Nordic group mentions that their successful school system is modeled on the (once-proud) US Public School System!; a couple in Italy talk about healthy and balanced leave from work; people don't go into DEBT from college or medical costs; French children attend excellent state-supported schools which provide healthy food and strong learning; officials in Scandi operate effective and humane facilities for people convicted of crimes, and more.
The Film SHOULD BE REQUIRED VIEWING FOR ALL AMERICANS!
Jedi Guy
(3,193 posts)I have health care, a good job (with protections, none of that right to work bullshit like back home), good public transport, I don't have to worry too much about some nutter shooting the place up... the list goes on.
The only thing I really hate is the weather. Hot and muggy in the summer, cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey in the winter. I really miss Arizona's climate.
I can't help but smirk and shake my head when I hear the "America is the greatest country on Earth" stuff. In a lot of ways, America is quite backwards, and 45 only seems to know how to drive in reverse. He's backing us up right towards the cliff, and his kooky cult is cheering him on.
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)I've visited AZ once, Scottsdale and Sedona, beautiful and I loved trips to New Mexico. Although the western Heat & Fires that are escalating lately are taking a huge toll esp. in CA, Washington state, more.
We saw Vancouver, BC on a day trip from Seattle which was great, also Ontario briefly once when in Detroit.
7962
(11,841 posts)I know it has nothing to do with this story, but Remove the income cap!!
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)It is a loan on your Social Security which has to be paid back at retirement.
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)aka, Con
geretogo
(1,281 posts)in Hell with their farther .
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Isn't this the guy who said (during the 2016 presidential debates) that his mother lived on her SSA benefits and Medicare and that he would never do anything to hurt his mother's security ??
Is she still alive ?
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)mother lived on SS and family help after his father died when he was a teen.
bucolic_frolic
(43,181 posts)small ideas in a small mind. He should be managing a fast food joint.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)First of all, its very existence is antithetical to their "law of the jungle" view of society, where only the rich are entitled to society's benefits.
Secondly, it represents a huge pool of money that can be siphoned off to their rich benefactors. During the Dubya years there was an incredible push to privatize Social Security and force people to invest in the stock market. However, citizens would be limited to a list of approved stocks. I wonder how you would get on the approved list? Do political contributions ring a bell?
BTW, you can have real estate -- even if it's mortgaged -- and coins and precious metals like gold, silver and platinum.
Tapping into Social Security to fund paternity leave serves two purposes: (1) it forces people to work longer (part of the Repug "work'em til they die" plan, and (2) it opens up the Fund for uses other than what it was intended. It becomes a huge pot of money to tap for their pet projects.
Rubio is evil.
ooky
(8,924 posts)It will run the trust fund dry sooner, moving us all closer to the projected cuts.
PSPS
(13,601 posts)Even if nothing is done to shore up its finances, Social Security will be able to pay 79% of promised benefits until 2090. Your other post about this made a similar untrue assumption.
Sure, there's a lot at stake here, and it may be addressed if we can remove the mob control of the government, but using alarmist metaphors that imply something that is just not true is counterproductive.
Do you understand what I meant by "move closer to the projected cuts".
modrepub
(3,496 posts)How many people work in careers that allow one to work until they are in their late 60s?!? Hell, you're lucky if your employer doesn't try and push you out the door once you pass 50 but these folks think nothing of adding a few more years onto your normal retirement age. Even India has paid maternity leave.
ooky
(8,924 posts)is to do nothing until the social security trust fund runs out of money, projected to be 2034. Of course, using the fund for family leave will accomplish that even sooner.
PSPS
(13,601 posts)Even if nothing is done to shore up its finances, Social Security will be able to pay 79% of promised benefits until 2090. The myth is intended to imply that benefits would just stop in 2034, which is false. Whether or not remedial action is taken between now and 2034 depends on our ability to scrub the mob out of the government.
ooky
(8,924 posts)Then it would run out and pay nothing going forward.
Its just an opinion, but this looks like a Republican long game to me.
One thing I'm certain of, they have no plan to shore it up so it keeps paying at 100%. And frankly if they cut it to 79%, that's not good either.
PSPS
(13,601 posts)ooky
(8,924 posts)You read into my post things that weren't there. I'm well aware of the estimated continued payouts when the fund runs out. Go back and read my original post, and this time read it. I was addressing the social security TRUST FUND running out. I said nothing about "social security running out of money". That was your assumption, and it was wrong.