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Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 07:24 PM Jan 2012

Hostess Brands Preparing for Chapter 11 Filing

Hostess Brands Inc. is preparing to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection as soon as this week, said people familiar with the matter, a move that would mark the second significant court restructuring for the Twinkie and Wonder Bread baker in the past several years.

The privately held Irving, Texas, company, which employs roughly 19,000 people and carries more than $860 million in debt, has been facing a cash squeeze amid high labor costs and rising prices for sugar, flour and other ingredients, according to people familiar with the matter. Those costs together have proved higher than the company's roughly $2.5 billion in annual sales, creating losses and cash shortfalls, they said.

Hostess also currently owes more than $50 million to vendors, which have been demanding payments on shortened timeframes after delivering goods because of Hostess's financial condition, one of the people said.

Hostess's filing would mark what's known as a "Chapter 22" in restructuring circles, since the company had already sought bankruptcy protection once before. Hostess, before called Interstate Bakeries Corp., slashed debt and costs during a four-year stint in bankruptcy court that began in 2004. The company has struggled since emerging from bankruptcy proceedings in February 2009.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204124204577151211961572458.html

This almost seems impossible

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Hostess Brands Preparing for Chapter 11 Filing (Original Post) Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 OP
Damm - I'm going to miss those Sugar Pies FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #1
Don't worry; they'll last forever. MaineDem Jan 2012 #15
They don't last forever now that they have to use no trans fats. McCamy Taylor Jan 2012 #33
Do they even make anything moderately nutritional? HopeHoops Jan 2012 #2
Only the house. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2012 #4
Yeah, but I still liked Twinkies! And... HopeHoops Jan 2012 #9
I remember Captain Kangaroo plugging Wonder Bread back in the '60s Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #17
First thing I thought when I saw the words "Wonder Bread"... reACTIONary Jan 2012 #38
Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco MaineDem Jan 2012 #42
Kent also claimed that it had "fine tobacco" Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #92
"Winston tastes good, like a cigarette should" Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #43
Ca-a-a-all for Philip Moe-rris! annabanana Jan 2012 #82
And there was one about being a silly millimeter longer MaineDem Jan 2012 #44
It was actually called "101" (One-o-one) Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #47
"Us Tareyton smokers would rather fight... than switch" Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #48
Lucky Strike red has gone to war era veteran Jan 2012 #59
I remember that one.. olddad56 Jan 2012 #80
I was always partial to "Take a breath...it's Springtime!" KansDem Jan 2012 #70
My father used to switch to Salems if he had a cold, like they were medicine or something. olddad56 Jan 2012 #81
"Over 30 years of tobacco research proves that Chesterfield is the best cigarette." olddad56 Jan 2012 #79
Were the "12 ways" ever disclosed? KansDem Jan 2012 #71
Yes! I distinctly remember... reACTIONary Jan 2012 #91
Wonder Bread is surprisingly nutritional Taverner Jan 2012 #31
Yes it was, imagine sliced bread. Who knew it was possible. Historic NY Jan 2012 #39
I mis-read the title. Wilms Jan 2012 #3
Mmmmmm.... Chapter 11 Filling jberryhill Jan 2012 #7
Sticky, with a bitter aftertaste. tanyev Jan 2012 #11
mabye Bain Capital and Mitt Rmoney can bail them out lol nt msongs Jan 2012 #5
You know I was wondering how they were able to put their products on sale for bogo every other week Klukie Jan 2012 #6
What is Twinkie's defense? rug Jan 2012 #8
That Dan White's imprisonment had a bad effect on sales. n/t NNadir Jan 2012 #24
MILK!!! derby378 Jan 2012 #89
I wonder what "amid high labor costs" means? Populist_Prole Jan 2012 #10
Do "NOT" panic people, even if they go out of business the twinkies they made now will cstanleytech Jan 2012 #12
Noooooooooooooo! derby378 Jan 2012 #13
Ditto Marie Marie Jan 2012 #45
I'm a Ho Hos fan SaintPete Jan 2012 #54
Ho-Hos are Violence. Haven't you heard? leveymg Jan 2012 #62
OMFG! Twinkies are in trouble!!! n/t bitchkitty Jan 2012 #14
Great book for those interested newblewtoo Jan 2012 #16
Tallahassee from Zombieland is gonna be pissed. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #18
It's not the taste, it's the texture. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #46
Their products have a longer half-life than depleted uranium, so BlueMTexpat Jan 2012 #19
Well, they cheap down the ingredients EC Jan 2012 #20
Again? Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #21
They have borrowed quite a bit of money at this point. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #23
They are selling just fine Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #26
From the article they are considerably in debt. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #27
One might consider Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #29
No doubt that is part of it. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #30
Debt may have come from exorbitant management salaries and bonuses. SharonAnn Jan 2012 #51
Tastykake is still in business. OnyxCollie Jan 2012 #36
ya ...several years ago they shut the doors without any notice to the union. madrchsod Jan 2012 #25
There goes the Twinkie Defense. n/t justgamma Jan 2012 #22
Archie Bunker; greiner3 Jan 2012 #28
Biddeford (Hostess) bakery hit with OSHA fines Maine-ah Jan 2012 #32
Just the "cost of doing business", or so they would say. SharonAnn Jan 2012 #52
Yet another American looting. hunter Jan 2012 #34
So much food is coming from china. riverbendviewgal Jan 2012 #85
It's always "high labor costs" Highway61 Jan 2012 #35
And high management consultant costs, and Wall Street financier costs, and legal costs, and ... SharonAnn Jan 2012 #53
You really think that comp is causing the BK? That's silly. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2012 #69
Little Debbie wins! aikoaiko Jan 2012 #37
Yeah, but their stuff isn't as good - at least not to me. Edweird Jan 2012 #41
TastyKake better not be next to go! I NEED Butterscotch Krimpets from time to time. Safetykitten Jan 2012 #50
I'd stock up. Fortunately, they have a shelf life longer than MREs. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #63
I love their 'ding dongs' and 'cupcakes'. That sucks. Edweird Jan 2012 #40
This is one of the end time signs. Safetykitten Jan 2012 #49
The Hostess/Interstate "day old" Bread Store here closed about 6 mos ago. Critters2 Jan 2012 #55
Try Mrs. Friendlys by Flowers Bakery Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #57
When people age they loose there taste buds, your dad is not alone :) . sarcasmo Jan 2012 #67
Does anyone even eat that shit anymore? AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #56
Yeah, these things are staples in the food deserts Ron Green Jan 2012 #58
I stopped eating these when I understood how much crap was in them sunwyn Jan 2012 #60
According to the article, you're part of the problem. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #66
Who's next into extinction, McDonald's and Coca Cola? Is the Big Mac-Coke-Twinkie diet imperiled? leveymg Jan 2012 #61
OMG, who are the parents of these children? CrispyQ Jan 2012 #87
To comment on this story I've brought in my inner child from 1986: Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #64
Ding Dongs are my one guilty pleasure. Jennicut Jan 2012 #65
A true nutritional wasteland FarCenter Jan 2012 #68
So the Twinkie is going to sinkie? LiberalEsto Jan 2012 #72
No more sno balls? Botany Jan 2012 #73
At least the Twinkie will live forever. . .literally! Suji to Seoul Jan 2012 #74
I, for one, hope that they don't go out of business. While unhealthy, I have always liked Hoho's and tropicanarose Jan 2012 #75
proof economy of scale is not sustainable....nt Evasporque Jan 2012 #76
NOOOOOO, not Twinkies!!! Odin2005 Jan 2012 #77
Caused by all the healthy eating efforts liberal N proud Jan 2012 #78
sigh.. I STILL like annabanana Jan 2012 #83
Twinkie Story SaintPete Jan 2012 #84
Great story. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #86
19,000 employees, many union positions with pension plans SomeGuyInEagan Jan 2012 #88
Unimportant compared with the pleasure of ridiculing the eating habits of others Wistful Vista Jan 2012 #90
I guess you're right. Might get my priorities in order. n/t SomeGuyInEagan Jan 2012 #94
I like TastyKakes better anyway. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #93
 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
2. Do they even make anything moderately nutritional?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 07:36 PM
Jan 2012

We've said for decades - "Wonder Bread - it's a wonder it's bread". And Twinkies and HoHos aren't exactly health food, although Congress will probably declare them to be vegetables.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
4. Only the house.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 07:45 PM
Jan 2012

And, no, they make nothing worth eating.

Hell, I remember how I looked at the shit they made in my yute, wondering why they would make crap like that, and wondering how they could stay in business.
And that was 40 years ago.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
9. Yeah, but I still liked Twinkies! And...
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 07:59 PM
Jan 2012

I had a really rude theory on how they were filled that isn't fit for publication.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
17. I remember Captain Kangaroo plugging Wonder Bread back in the '60s
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:36 PM
Jan 2012

"Wonder Bread helps build strong bodies 12 ways"

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
38. First thing I thought when I saw the words "Wonder Bread"...
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:40 PM
Jan 2012

...can you still remember any of the cigarette slogans?

"You can take Salem out of the country, but you can't take the country out of Salem"

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
92. Kent also claimed that it had "fine tobacco"
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jan 2012

"More taste" as well.

"More taste, fine tobacco, doo-doo-doody-doo-doo"

My uncle smoked Kents. After smelling the smoke, I couldn't imagine how they could have any "taste"

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
43. "Winston tastes good, like a cigarette should"
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:08 AM
Jan 2012

Not "LIKE"--- AS!

"You've come a long way, baby, to get where you've got to today. You've got your own cigarette now, baby. You've come a long, long way" (Virginia Slims)

"To a Frenchman, it's the Eiffel Tower
To a Dutchman, it's a pretty flower
To an Indian (from India), it's a monument
To a smoker, it's a Kent"

"I'd walk a mile for a Camel"

"Come to where the flavor is. Come to Marlboro Country"

"Bel-Air tastes light, 'cause the menthol's right"

"Oh, the disadvantages of the new Benson & Hedges 100s"

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
48. "Us Tareyton smokers would rather fight... than switch"
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:55 AM
Jan 2012

The ads/commercials always featured someone with a black eye. They always irritated the heck out of me.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
80. I remember that one..
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 02:57 PM
Jan 2012

Where the bellhop is in the hotel lobby yelling 'Call For Philllippp Morrriss'.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
70. I was always partial to "Take a breath...it's Springtime!"
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:18 PM
Jan 2012

Salem again...



Yeah, "Springtime" Only if you're living in a tailpipe...

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
79. "Over 30 years of tobacco research proves that Chesterfield is the best cigarette."
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 02:55 PM
Jan 2012

I have these old Dragnet episodes that were converted to VHS. Almost all of the commericals are for Chesterfield cigarettes. Many with George Fenneman (who wouldn't believe him) expalining why Chesterfields are the best cigarettes. My favorite is the one I posted in the heading. Other good ones are of Doctors and Airline pilots explaining why Chesterfields are the best.

My son and I like the commericals better than the show.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
91. Yes! I distinctly remember...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 09:44 PM
Jan 2012

...a big chart or poster with 12 points for each "way". I remember a "host" (cap't kangaroo? could be) going down the list naming each one. I think the host might have flipped or slid a panel to reveal each one. I believe they were 12 vitamins and minerals, but I can't remember for sure.

Klukie

(2,237 posts)
6. You know I was wondering how they were able to put their products on sale for bogo every other week
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 07:47 PM
Jan 2012

makes sense now.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
89. MILK!!!
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 08:32 PM
Jan 2012
I woke up, can't wait to eat
Got my cereal, boy was I beat
Opened up my fridge and to my dismay
There was no more Milk, Dan White's gonna pay

I want some Milk
My coffee grows cold
I want some Milk
I should've been told

I wish I had some goddamn Milk
Politics just ain't the same
I wish I had some goddamn Milk
Too bad the policeman never came

I can't go out to the store
I'll just wait till Dan White buys more
I'll just fight 'til Prop 8 is dead
8-hit combo on its fuckin' head

I want some Milk
My coffee grows cold
I want some Milk
I should've been told

I wish I had some goddamn Milk
Politics just ain't the same
I wish I had some goddamn Milk
Too bad the policeman never came

I want some Milk
My coffee grows cold
I want some Milk
I should've been told

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
12. Do "NOT" panic people, even if they go out of business the twinkies they made now will
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:18 PM
Jan 2012

taste the same one year from now or even 20000 years from now due to the preservatives.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
13. Noooooooooooooo!
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:19 PM
Jan 2012

Sorry, but every once in a while I gotta get my Ding Dong fix on. Not to mention the Twinkies.

EC

(12,287 posts)
20. Well, they cheap down the ingredients
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 08:52 PM
Jan 2012

so everything tastes like crap, I won't miss them. Off brand Zingers taste better anyway.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
21. Again?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:04 PM
Jan 2012

This is about screwing their workers on pension contributions & breaking the unions.

They filed under Interstate Brands & changed the company name so they can now file again.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
23. They have borrowed quite a bit of money at this point.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:09 PM
Jan 2012

I just can't believe that their brands aren't selling better.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
27. From the article they are considerably in debt.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:29 PM
Jan 2012

Close to a billion dollars. I think Tastykake went out of business a few years ago.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
30. No doubt that is part of it.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:52 PM
Jan 2012

I'm sure this is true as well. Never even heard of Nature's pride, but I bake all my own bread.


Sales of Hostess's signature Twinkies have recently declined a bit while the overall bakery snacks category has been about flat. Nearly 36 million packages of Twinkies were sold in the year ended Dec. 25, down almost 2% from a year earlier, according to data from SymphonyIRI Group, a Chicago-based market-research firm. The data captures sales from supermarkets, drugstores, mass-market retailers and convenience stores, but exclude sales from Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and club stores.

Hostess also has had trouble attracting consumers who have migrated away from white bread to whole grains and other healthier foods. Hostess released a whole-grain bread called Nature's Pride, but it hasn't sold well compared with some rivals amid a small presence on shelves, according to Mitchell Pinheiro, a Janney Montgomery Scott analyst. Still, Nature's Pride's overall sales have ticked up, increasing 12.3% over the past year or so, said a Hostess spokesman.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
25. ya ...several years ago they shut the doors without any notice to the union.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:18 PM
Jan 2012

around here 5 or so drivers and store personal were locked out.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
28. Archie Bunker;
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:31 PM
Jan 2012

Will have one more thing to rant about. Well, maybe they will make a revival or something.

Maine-ah

(9,902 posts)
32. Biddeford (Hostess) bakery hit with OSHA fines
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:00 PM
Jan 2012

The U.S. Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration has proposed fines of $104,700 for alleged workplace safety violations at a Biddeford bakery.

In a Monday release, OSHA detailed the allegations against Interstate Brands, doing business as Hostess Brands. The problems include eight “serious” and two repeat violations, OSHA charged.

“Our inspection identified mechanical, electrical, fall and exit hazards, including some similar to those cited at other Interstate Brands facilities,” said William Coffin, OSHA’s area director for Maine. “Left uncorrected, these violations expose workers to the hazards of electrocution, lacerations, amputation, falls, being caught in operating or unexpectedly activated machinery and being unable to exit the workplace swiftly in the event of a fire or other emergency.”

According to the release, OSHA inspectors reported missing guardrails that would prevent workers from falling into hoppers; a locked emergency exit door and an exit route blocked by product racks; unguarded moving machine parts on a conveyor belt, band saw blade, drill press and other equipment; a lack of documented procedures to prevent the unintended activation of machinery during maintenance; and individuals working on live electrical equipment who were not familiar with the protective equipment needed for such work.

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/01/09/business/biddeford-bakery-hit-with-osha-fines/

hunter

(38,311 posts)
34. Yet another American looting.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:03 PM
Jan 2012

Somebody walked away with the big bucks and, no, it wasn't the workers.

Hmmm... Would you eat a Twinkie made in China? That might solve their little "bankruptcy" problem.

Just remember stuff like this:

Journalist murdered while covering illegal cooking oil scandal

http://en.rsf.org/chine-journalist-murdered-while-covering-20-09-2011,41024.html

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
85. So much food is coming from china.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 05:18 PM
Jan 2012

Today I was going to buy a can of mushrooms...but both brands available showed that the mushrooms were from China.

I bought fresh ones.

Highway61

(2,568 posts)
35. It's always "high labor costs"
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 10:05 PM
Jan 2012

Why don't they ever mention what the top officers of the company are reaping in salaries and bonuses? Hummm?

couldn't have anything to do with this:

Hostess Brands....

Top Exec Salary: $1,428,500
Second Exec Salary: $1,389,800 Bonus: $1,200,000
Bonus: $75,000

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
41. Yeah, but their stuff isn't as good - at least not to me.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:10 PM
Jan 2012

I like their oatmeal creme pies, but I can only eat so many of them. I stopped buying their Devil Squares about 6 months ago or so. They started tasting funny .

Critters2

(30,889 posts)
55. The Hostess/Interstate "day old" Bread Store here closed about 6 mos ago.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 02:45 AM
Jan 2012

It never occurred to me that the whole company might be in trouble. I do love the cupcakes. My dad insists the Aldi ones taste just like 'em. My dad is insane.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
61. Who's next into extinction, McDonald's and Coca Cola? Is the Big Mac-Coke-Twinkie diet imperiled?
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 09:25 AM
Jan 2012

OMG - America, the end is near! You might actually lose weight.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
87. OMG, who are the parents of these children?
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 06:44 PM
Jan 2012

A child that young & that fat almost borders on child abuse, imo.

When I was a kid, back in the 60s, we had kids in our class that we considered fat, but looking at many of today's youth, the kids back then would only be considered 'heavy' today.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
64. To comment on this story I've brought in my inner child from 1986:
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 09:51 AM
Jan 2012

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
65. Ding Dongs are my one guilty pleasure.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 10:08 AM
Jan 2012

And when I mean one, I mean one. Drake's Cakes makes Ring Dings, which are really the same thing. As a type 1 diabetic, I allow myself to have one once a year. It has only 22 grams of carbs per ring ding so it doesn't really make my sugar jump (anything over 60 grams and I need to take insulin with my meal). Of course, it is full of other crap. But does Hostess make anything with any nutritional value? Must be why they are losing money. But you have to have a treat at least once a year when you are someone like me or you will literally want to kill yourself. I mean, I don't even eat my own birthday cake.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
68. A true nutritional wasteland
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jan 2012

Hostess HoHos, donettes, Cup Cakes, Twinkies, SuzyQ's, Fruit Pie, Ding Dongs, and Zingers.

Wonder Bread, Nature's Pride breads, Home Pride breads, Merita bread, and Beefsteak bread.

Dolly Madison Zingers®, Donut Gems®, Angel Food and Pound Cakes, and a variety of breakfast items like Sweet Rolls, Dunkin Stix and Pecan Rollers.

Drake’s Coffee Cake, Devil Dogs®, Yankee Doodles® and Ring Dings®.

Regional products sold under brands such as Eddy's, Ozark Mill, Butternut, J.J.Nissen, Bread du Jour, Pantry Pride, Sunbeam, SweatHeart, Grandma Emilie's, Cotton's Holsum, Columbo, and Standish Farms.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
74. At least the Twinkie will live forever. . .literally!
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jan 2012

The only think I ever liked from them were the brownie bites. Everything else was over-sweetened goo!

tropicanarose

(240 posts)
75. I, for one, hope that they don't go out of business. While unhealthy, I have always liked Hoho's and
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:08 PM
Jan 2012

Twinkie's are kind of a like a Smithsonian worthy junk food! They are a piece of Americana! =)

SaintPete

(533 posts)
84. Twinkie Story
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jan 2012

years ago I bought a 10 year old used car. I drove that car for two years before it died. Cleaning out the trunk, I pulled the spare out and underneath, in near pristine condition, was a Hostess Twinkie, with an expiration dated that matched the year of the car.

Simple math, it was a twelve year old Twinkie. Excuse me, a Twinkie that had "expired" 12 years earlier.

I ate that Twinkie, and it was just as fresh as a brand new cake. I'd be willing to bet that another 12 years could have gone by and the Twinkie would still have been as good as new.

I'll never know who put the Twinkie under the spare, or why. My only hope is that whatever kept that snack alive and well in that dark little pit for 12 years, will work similar magic on me.

I want to live like a Twinkie.

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