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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:22 PM Oct 2018

Trump Pushes for Stop and Frisk in Speech to Police Chiefs: 'It Was Meant for Problems Like Chicago'

Source: Mediate


by Caleb Howe | Oct 8th, 2018, 3:31 pm

Speaking before the International Association of Chiefs of Police at the convention center in Orlando on Monday, President Donald Trump stated, as he has before, that he is sending the Attorney General’s office to Chicago “immediately” in response to the violent crime crisis there. He blamed the ACLU for tying the hands of police in the city, and said that “Stop and Frisk” works and should be considered there.

“By the end of this year, murders in major cities are estimated to drop by close to 10% from their levels in 2016,” said the President, in touting the impact of policy on the statistics. He turned to Chicago as an example of major city with a crime problem.

“I have directed the Attorney General’s office to immediately go to the great city of Chicago to help straighten out the terrible shooting wave,” he said. “Want to straighten it out fast, there’s no reason for what’s going on there.”

“I’ve told them to work with local authorities to try to change the terrible deal the city of Chicago entered into with ACLU, which ties law enforcement’s hands, and to strongly consider Stop and frisk,” said Trump. “It works and it was meant for problems like Chicago. It was meant for it. Stop and frisk.”



Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-pushes-for-stop-and-frisk-in-speech-to-police-chiefs-it-was-meant-for-problems-like-chicago/



Trump Tells Gathering of Police Chiefs: ‘You Don’t Hear it From the Media’ How Much America Loves You

by Joe DePaolo | Oct 8th, 2018, 2:34 pm

President Donald Trump accused the media of not conveying America’s appreciation of law enforcement officers at a gathering of police chiefs on Monday.

Speaking in Orlando at the Association of Chiefs of Police Annual Convention, the president slammed the press for their coverage of police officers.

“I don’t think you understand one thing,” Trump said. “How much our country loves you and the job you do.”

Pointing to the back of the hall where the media was gathered, the president said, “You don’t hear it from them. You don’t hear it from them.”

The line was met with applause and cheers in the hall.

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https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-tells-gathering-of-police-chiefs-you-dont-hear-it-from-the-media-how-much-america-loves-you/
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Trump Pushes for Stop and Frisk in Speech to Police Chiefs: 'It Was Meant for Problems Like Chicago' (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
Trump is a sick POS. What are "problems like Chicago". Is that a Trump speak for ppl of color. iluvtennis Oct 2018 #1
Naturally thegoose Oct 2018 #3
Honestly, I think "problems like Chicago" means 50, 60, 70 people shot every weekend. Midnight Writer Oct 2018 #24
Stop and frisk did not work to reduce crime in NYC under Guiliani happy feet Oct 2018 #26
I expect more of the BS the closer we get to the midterms. BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #2
Police state.. pangaia Oct 2018 #4
Such timing! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2018 #5
You Left Out A Major Detail ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #28
Fine. Let them start by harassing everyone coming out of Trump Hotel and Tower, Chicago Freethinker65 Oct 2018 #6
The party of "limited government" MountCleaners Oct 2018 #7
And Trump pulls out his racist dog whistle sakabatou Oct 2018 #8
Stop and frisk his punk kids, maybe cuff jr dembotoz Oct 2018 #9
Huh. Wonder why. OilemFirchen Oct 2018 #10
So, stop and frisk will stop murders? louis-t Oct 2018 #11
How about "stopping and frisking" the hoodlums BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #12
Wonder how Ye, who just bought a house here, thinks about this, and if he'll endorse 45's move. ancianita Oct 2018 #13
More racist dog whistle for the deplorables jpak Oct 2018 #14
Stop and frisk works for him, but getting guns off the streets doesn't occur to him? marble falls Oct 2018 #15
I'm not a constitutional scholar but isn't illegal search outlawed under the constitution? kimbutgar Oct 2018 #16
Why they were made to stop doing it actually. Odoreida Oct 2018 #18
Not once the current SCOTUS gets ahold of it NickB79 Oct 2018 #22
Well it worked in Giuliani's New York. Odoreida Oct 2018 #17
Actually, it was Bloomy's NY Polybius Oct 2018 #20
How fucking dumb can people be?? bluestarone Oct 2018 #19
This is SO stupid JonLP24 Oct 2018 #21
only WHITE people are presumed innocent to the DT trumpum crowd/GOP pansypoo53219 Oct 2018 #23
Yep. They want to erase that a black man was president. iluvtennis Oct 2018 #25
This is the first step Runningdawg Oct 2018 #27
Yeah, you can bet when cheetoz goes after anything illinois.. Maxheader Oct 2018 #29

iluvtennis

(19,868 posts)
1. Trump is a sick POS. What are "problems like Chicago". Is that a Trump speak for ppl of color.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:26 PM
Oct 2018

I so DESPISE trumpty dumpty.

Midnight Writer

(21,780 posts)
24. Honestly, I think "problems like Chicago" means 50, 60, 70 people shot every weekend.
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 01:15 AM
Oct 2018

I live in the Chicago media market, and the stories behind all of this killing is sickening. A mother sitting in her car beset by a trio of shooters, a little girl in a public park killed as a car drives through spraying fire, a father sitting on his front porch blown away by a teenage shooter.

Random killing by random shooters. Go to Youtube, search Chicago Worst Neighborhoods, and you can see an endless stream of videos featuring young people pulling up their guns and threatening violence.

I don't know if "stop and frisk" is helpful. I know jack shit about law enforcement. But I do know when something is out of control and needs to be stopped.

happy feet

(871 posts)
26. Stop and frisk did not work to reduce crime in NYC under Guiliani
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 02:41 AM
Oct 2018

It was only successful in getting many thousands of young black men daily being "stopped and frisked" just for walking in black neighborhood while being blacked (stripping them of their freedom), too often hauled into police stations just to be released but nevertheless in the criminal justice system.

Keeping stats, finally won civil rights, equal justice lawsuit making stop and frisk illegal. Crime began to decline AFTER...

No, it only works to unjustly put young blacks into the criminal justice system and dislike the police as abusers, instead of protectors of the community.

BigmanPigman

(51,622 posts)
2. I expect more of the BS the closer we get to the midterms.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:29 PM
Oct 2018

Keep your head focused on the prize and ignore his distractions to ramp up his cult.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,747 posts)
5. Such timing!
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:43 PM
Oct 2018

This just days after a Chicago cop got convicted of second degree murder and 16 counts of aggravated battery with a firearm for shooting a stoned kid carrying a knife.

Spanky's still not welcome in Chicago. And about the last thing we need here is Stop and Frisk at a time when emotions are already running high.

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
28. You Left Out A Major Detail
Tue Oct 9, 2018, 08:09 AM
Oct 2018

The kid was 20 feet away from the cop when he unloaded the entire clip.

Originally, i was thinking the cop was justified with the kid actually having a weapon. The idea of feeling threatened made sense.

Then i saw the animation of the shooting based upon the eyewitness testimony of several people. The kid was still 20 feet away, and walking away at an angle. Not an imminent threat and not even moving toward the cop. And he unloads the entire clip.

After i saw that video, i knew the cop was toast.

Freethinker65

(10,033 posts)
6. Fine. Let them start by harassing everyone coming out of Trump Hotel and Tower, Chicago
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:52 PM
Oct 2018

Bet they will find some illegal recreational drugs and non-permitted concealed weapons. A money maker as those searched will gladly pay fines.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
7. The party of "limited government"
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 04:53 PM
Oct 2018

We don't want his police state tactics here.

He is blaming Chicago for being too "uppity". Fuck him.

dembotoz

(16,820 posts)
9. Stop and frisk his punk kids, maybe cuff jr
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 05:04 PM
Oct 2018

Put his daughter in a holding cell...
Maybe change his mind

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
10. Huh. Wonder why.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 05:29 PM
Oct 2018

Yes, that's rhetorical.

Here's a 2017 FBI list, reformatted, from here

Violent Crime Rate (Per 100,000 People):

1: St. Louis, Missouri 1,817.1
2: Detroit, Michigan 1,759.6
3: Memphis, Tennessee 1,740.1
4: Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1,596.1
5:Baltimore, Maryland 1,535.9
6: Oakland , California 1,442.5
7: Kansas City, Missouri 1,417.3
8: Stockton, California 1,352.0
9: Cleveland, Ohio 1,334.3
10: Indianapolis, Indiana 1,288.0
11: District Of Columbia 1,202.6
12: Toledo, Ohio 1,128.9
13: Atlanta, Georgia 1,119.6
14: Buffalo New, York 1,118.6
15: NashvilleMetropolitan, Tennessee 1,101.0
16: Newark, New Jersey 1,077.7
17: Anchorage Alaska 1,070.9
18: Minneapolis, Minnesota 1,062.9
19: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1,029.0
20: Miami, Florida 1,021.3
21: Wichita, Kansas 984.8
22: Houston, Texas 966.7
23: Albuquerque, New Mexico 965.8
24: New Orleans, Louisiana 949.6
25: Orlando, Florida 940.6

louis-t

(23,296 posts)
11. So, stop and frisk will stop murders?
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 05:41 PM
Oct 2018

Oh, someone just searched me, so now I'm not going to go kill that guy that ripped me off?
drumpf could scream that he has a hemorrhoid on his ass and his deplorables would cheer.

BumRushDaShow

(129,304 posts)
12. How about "stopping and frisking" the hoodlums
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 06:05 PM
Oct 2018

from Georgetown Prep (and their compatriots) when they go to Ocean City, MD for "Beach Week".

Nahhhhh... can't do that. It's only for POC trying to read a book in a park or just walking down the street while "fitting the description".

Polybius

(15,465 posts)
20. Actually, it was Bloomy's NY
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:23 PM
Oct 2018

From 2002, until August 12, 2013, when US District Court Judge Shira Scheindlin ruled that stop and frisk had been used in an unconstitutional manner. Hopefully, the Supreme Court would strike it down if it were to happen nationally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_City

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
21. This is SO stupid
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:36 PM
Oct 2018

It is ineffective in stopping violent crime particularly murder and all you end up doing is stopping and frisking 90%+ of innocent people and is really unconstitutional policing.

Baltimore Police Department - Findings Report - August 10, 2016 - Department of Justice
PDFDepartment of Justice (.gov) › download

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.justice.gov/crt/file/883296/download&ved=2ahUKEwj__P2lnPjdAhWMGTQIHfIbAxUQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2cjPRpJ4TnSMCwC6jEanE-

pansypoo53219

(20,987 posts)
23. only WHITE people are presumed innocent to the DT trumpum crowd/GOP
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 10:20 PM
Oct 2018

MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN!!! ERASE SOCIALIST OBAMA!

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