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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:55 AM Oct 2018

Spontaneous caravan of migrants winds way through Honduras

Source: Associated Press


Amy Guthrie, Associated Press
Updated 7:03 pm CDT, Saturday, October 13, 2018

MEXICO CITY (AP) — A caravan of more than 1,000 Hondurans is winding its way toward their country's border with Guatemala, with the goal of reaching a better life in the United States.

Dunia Montoya, a volunteer helping the migrants, said the group planned to sleep Saturday inside an auditorium in Santa Rosa de Copan, a town several hours east by car from Guatemala.

The migration began swelling spontaneously Friday after local media reported on approximately 160 migrants who had agreed to depart together for greater safety from San Pedro Sula. The aspiring migrants organized via WhatsApp chats.

"People leave Honduras every day, but this is the first time (they do it) in a public way and in a group," Montoya said in a telephone interview from Santa Rosa de Copan.

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Spontaneous-caravan-of-migrants-winds-way-through-13305224.php

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ancianita

(36,058 posts)
1. This is by design. Someone else's doing. Someone knows more than these migrants know.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:59 AM
Oct 2018

And it's not what the world is being told, it's what the world is not being told.

This news doesn't say much beyond the points of view of the migrants. But I have my suspicions that they only say what they're allowed to know.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
3. My guess? Trump and or Putin with the goal of helping Trump gain support with
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 05:17 AM
Oct 2018

building that stupid money pit of a wall because Putin knows it would hurt the US economically to try and build something so absurdly large and useless.

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
6. My first reaction to moving people from their lands -- an historical practice -- is the design
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:27 PM
Oct 2018

of those who want to control the land those people inhabit. Just the fact that everyday people have to migrate in such numbers means that their collective survival is threatened.

I've only read that "Honduras has become a strategic transit nation for drugs moving north to the United States. Political turmoil following the 2009 coup that ousted then-President Manuel Zelaya has exacerbated instability..."

I wish I could say by whose design, or I wouldn't bother to ask. The names of the organizations, the names of their bosses. What people's recourse is to stop them.

Reports say that bad guys, cartels, not multinational business, are behind this. Which, if this seems like everyday news, makes me feel sad and frustrated at the sheer power of death dealing evil from those who won't "live and let live" and must threaten some whole group's lives.

This centuries-old practice of driving out whole groups of people is, by now, barbaric. I don't want that to be our everyday news.

What do you have to say about this news?



SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
7. Your post indicated you knew, which is why I asked.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:32 PM
Oct 2018

Desperation and poverty driving people to the US is nothing new. It's what brought my family here. The difference is how cruel Trump is being to immigrants.

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
8. If I know something pertinent, I'll sometimes say it. But I always ask only to get more info.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:48 PM
Oct 2018

I know that people coming to the US isn't new, but it's usually been individuals, not caravans. And I'd rather they come not for escape but because we're welcoming and constructive in assimilating them.

Maybe everybody else is as weary as I am of the barbarities far and near that drive people here.

My whole outlook on US openness and border players' counter-barbarity is soured, too.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
9. They come in caravans hoping there's safety in numbers.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:33 PM
Oct 2018

These desperate immigrants are incredibly vulnerable as they travel through some of the most crime-infested areas of the world, all while unwanted and shunned.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
4. start looking for code words from "The Camp of the Saints"
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 09:07 AM
Oct 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints


What if they were to come? I did not know who "they" were, but it seemed inevitable to me that the numberless disinherited people of the South would, like a tidal wave, set sail one day for this opulent shore, our fortunate country’s wide-gaping frontier.

keithbvadu2

(36,809 posts)
5. More profit from child trafficking by Trump's pals who run the cages.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 10:10 AM
Oct 2018

More profit from child trafficking by Trump's pals who run the cages.

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