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Jose Garcia

(2,595 posts)
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:06 PM Nov 2018

'I was angry and I sent it': Fourth Kavanaugh accuser referred to FBI after recanting

Source: USA Today

WASHINGTON - Just days before the midterm elections, Sen. Chuck Grassley asked the federal authorities on Friday to investigate another person he says made false claims against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

Grassley, in a letter to the Justice Department and FBI, said a woman by the name of Judy Munro-Leighton took responsibility for authoring an anonymous letter that made allegations that Kavanaugh and a friend raped her. After she was tracked down and interviewed by Senate investigators, the woman recanted and said she was not the author and had never met Kavanaugh.

Grassley claims the woman is a left-wing activist and told investigators it was "just a ploy," he wrote in the letter. Her full comments to investigators were not made available and efforts by USA TODAY to reach Munro-Leighton were unsuccessful.

The letter marks the fourth request Grassley has made of federal authorities to investigate those involved in the controversial Kavanaugh proceedings, which were extended due to a series of sexual assault allegations surfacing when Kavanaugh was in high school and college.

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1863210002

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'I was angry and I sent it': Fourth Kavanaugh accuser referred to FBI after recanting (Original Post) Jose Garcia Nov 2018 OP
I am going to have a huge smile on my face eventually because I suspect when the FBI cstanleytech Nov 2018 #1
Talk about a ploy - eh Grassley - no evidence..only a letter by Grassley supposedly to the FBI asiliveandbreathe Nov 2018 #2
I never knew there was a 4th. Next thing you know there will be a 5th and 6th... Seems like GOP mov lancelyons Nov 2018 #3
Her accusations were posted here at the time FBaggins Nov 2018 #5
Unfortunate. But could be a RW activist trying make it look like a LW setup. allgood33 Nov 2018 #11
Isn't this what happened to Franken? Weren't all of his accusers investigated by the FBI? ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #4
I'm sorry. I don't understand. Control-Z Nov 2018 #6
Close... but not quite. FBaggins Nov 2018 #7
There's a lot of that going around lately. Control-Z Nov 2018 #10
Yes. That is a case for the FBI FBaggins Nov 2018 #12
Did a Trump thug tap The Wizard Nov 2018 #8
Who? BlueStater Nov 2018 #9
Actually... it did receive coverage FBaggins Nov 2018 #13
First thing that goes through the head of the Grass hat...........is just like the accused turbinetree Nov 2018 #14
Ultimately, women are human beings like men, subject to the same flaws and failings, elocs Nov 2018 #15
Well said. Important in any battle to be able to see the human cost above the fray. Snellius Nov 2018 #16
Thank you for your honesty. And good luck. 7962 Nov 2018 #17
We tend to believe a Republican is guilty because treestar Nov 2018 #18
Some women do, but the vast majority of them do not. BlueStater Nov 2018 #19
Let's say you're a poor black man in the south accused by a white woman elocs Nov 2018 #21
Grassley needs to go back saidsimplesimon Nov 2018 #20

cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
1. I am going to have a huge smile on my face eventually because I suspect when the FBI
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:14 PM
Nov 2018

investigates Grassley eventually that he will then have the new name of "Prisoner #xxxxxxxxxxx" and it will be well earned karma.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
2. Talk about a ploy - eh Grassley - no evidence..only a letter by Grassley supposedly to the FBI
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:15 PM
Nov 2018

Maybe a left-wing activist...her full comments to investigators were not made available..unable to reach recantor...until there is more..I will call this BS....too bad Dr Ford wasn't given a full FBI investigation..what say ya' Grassley..eh????

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
3. I never knew there was a 4th. Next thing you know there will be a 5th and 6th... Seems like GOP mov
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:20 PM
Nov 2018

This seems more like a GOP move to make Kavanaugh seem more appealing.

Did any of you every hear of a 4th accuser during the heat of the moment?

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
5. Her accusations were posted here at the time
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:46 PM
Nov 2018

In fact... Kavanaugh was questioned on it during the hearing.

A number of posters warned that she seemed less
credible than other accusers (not the least because it was an anonymous letter)

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
11. Unfortunate. But could be a RW activist trying make it look like a LW setup.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 03:13 AM
Nov 2018

Whatever, it doesn't any of the other allegations untrue.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. Isn't this what happened to Franken? Weren't all of his accusers investigated by the FBI?
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:44 PM
Nov 2018

Fuck you Snake-in-the-Grassley.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
6. I'm sorry. I don't understand.
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 11:09 PM
Nov 2018

Someone authored an anonymous letter that made allegations about Kavanaugh (and a second person) raping her. So Senate investigators tracked down a woman whom they believed was the author of the anonymous letter. She told them she was not the author of the anonymous letter and that she had never met Kavanaugh.

So a woman who didn't write an anonymous letter admitted she didn't write the letter and didn't know Kavanaugh.

What's her crime? This is too confusing for me.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
7. Close... but not quite.
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 11:14 PM
Nov 2018

Someone wrote an anonymous letter... and then a second woman wrote an email claiming to be the author of the first letter and repeating the allegations... but gave her name. Then they tracked the second woman down and she admits she was lying.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
10. There's a lot of that going around lately.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:46 AM
Nov 2018

People taking credit for anonymous accusation letters. Then confessing their innocence. Sounds like a case for the FBI.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
12. Yes. That is a case for the FBI
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:23 AM
Nov 2018

It’s still a false accusation of rape (a crime in itself but also damaging to actual victims). That would be a job for the police except that it was made to Congress. So it’s the FBI’s bailiwick.

My guess would be that she’s more than a little nutty and nothing will come of it.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
9. Who?
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 12:13 AM
Nov 2018

The claims of this woman were never taken seriously by the media as she never received any coverage. Grasshole is just trying to discredit the other accusers.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
14. First thing that goes through the head of the Grass hat...........is just like the accused
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 07:22 AM
Nov 2018

sexual assaulter sitting on the bench, that has no business being anything..............left wing activist.............are out to get me.........................when we take back the House, if we do, we can find out what the hell happened, the White House and Don McGahn cannot stop it, and yes, Kavanaugh can be called to come before Congress and we can add Gorsuch, just for old time sake.......................to have a full investigation............................of all documents


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November 6, 2018 cannot get here fast enough..........................vote

elocs

(22,569 posts)
15. Ultimately, women are human beings like men, subject to the same flaws and failings,
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:02 AM
Nov 2018

have the ability to lie and commit crimes. Common sense should tell us that even a small percentage of sexual assault or harassment accusations will be false. Now this would seem insignificant unless you are the man being accused.
In the same vein, we on the Left tend to easily believe that a Republican accused of sexual assault or of being a pedophile is obviously guilty but then make excuses for when it is a Democrat. But we are imperfect people as well with feet of clay and terrible crimes are committed by people and not just members of the opposing party.

I once had a coworker who jokingly said about the death penalty, "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" and I hope we haven't reached the point where an accusation automatically makes the man guilty. All sexual assault and harassment claims need to be taken seriously and investigated seriously, but a bell that is struck cannot be unrung.

Let the flailing commence.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
16. Well said. Important in any battle to be able to see the human cost above the fray.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:19 AM
Nov 2018

When all sides get locked and loaded in their self-righteous causes, it always turns out wrong and self-destructive for both. Their anger maneuvers them into believing a position which, after calmer consideration, they don't really want to defend.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
17. Thank you for your honesty. And good luck.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:22 AM
Nov 2018

I've had TWO similar comments hidden for "spreading RW talking points"
And of course, no response from the admins on appeal.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. We tend to believe a Republican is guilty because
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:31 AM
Nov 2018

of his attitude towards women. Republicans are more likely to see women as inferior/just sex objects. So it's not entirely based on politics.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
19. Some women do, but the vast majority of them do not.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 10:11 AM
Nov 2018

And when I say "some", I mean only about 2%.

Unless you're mentally ill, falsely accusing a man of sexually assaulting you makes zero sense. You have nothing really to gain and plenty to lose for doing that.

elocs

(22,569 posts)
21. Let's say you're a poor black man in the south accused by a white woman
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 02:05 PM
Nov 2018

of sexually assaulting or harassing her, how do you think you would fare? No, you won't get lynched anymore but on the accusation of a white woman is likely all it would take to send you to prison. If we're honest we know it happens.
In a nation of over 300 million people is it possible that there might be a few innocent men languishing in prison because they were falsely accused of sexual misconduct?
As Willliam Blackstone said, that under the law it's better to let 10 guilty persons go free than to convict an innocent one.
Now every man who has committed sexual assault or other sexual misconduct should be convicted or suffer the consequences, but it seems that with every other crime we somehow manage to presume one is innocent until proven guilty and not simply guilty from having been accused because proven or admitted false accusations will take a toll on the MeToo movement, especially if they are high profile.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
20. Grassley needs to go back
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 01:15 PM
Nov 2018

home for retirement. Without his seat in the Senate, would he even get an offer to be a lobbyist?

His behaviour and language betray his disrespect for women.

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