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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:57 PM Nov 2018

White House weighs booting Erdogan foe from U.S. to appease Turkey

Source: NBC

The White House is looking for ways to remove an enemy of Turkish President Recep Erdogan from the U.S. in order to placate Turkey over the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, according to two senior U.S. officials and two other people briefed on the requests.

Trump administration officials last month asked federal law enforcement agencies to examine legal ways of removing exiled Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen in an attempt to persuade Erdogan to ease pressure on the Saudi government, the four sources said.

The effort includes directives to the Justice Department and FBI that officials reopen Turkey's case for his extradition, as well as a request to the Homeland Security Department for information about his legal status, the four people said.

They said the White House specifically wanted details about Gulen's residency status in the U.S. Gulen has a Green Card, according to two people familiar with the matter. He has been living in Pennsylvania since the late 1990s.

Career officials at the agencies pushed back on the White House requests, the U.S. officials and people briefed on the requests said. "At first there were eye rolls, but once they realized it was a serious request, the career guys were furious," said a senior U.S. official involved in the process.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/white-house-weighs-booting-erdogan-foe-u-s-appease-turkey-n933996?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

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White House weighs booting Erdogan foe from U.S. to appease Turkey (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Nov 2018 OP
This is the man Flynn was plotting to kidnap, no? Leghorn21 Nov 2018 #1
Extraditing him would be murder, plain and simple. Turkey may be better than Saudi Arabia, but.... mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2018 #2
He's in PA, so yes, I guess it's Scranton Leghorn21 Nov 2018 #5
Yes it was. Mrs. Overall Nov 2018 #3
This Is Despicable Me. Nov 2018 #4
Fucking ehh Tweety Bird this is despicable. watoos Nov 2018 #6
Trial Balloon FromThe Comrade & Cretins In WH Me. Nov 2018 #14
Why do WE have to appease Turkey? leftynyc Nov 2018 #7
If I remember right, watoos Nov 2018 #9
If he sends this person back leftynyc Nov 2018 #12
Gulen will be Khashoggi'd immediately if he is returned to Turkey. Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2018 #22
++++++++++++++++++++++ nt More_Cowbell Nov 2018 #10
The article says it's to try and get Erdogan to back off of Saudi Arabia for Khoshoggi killing denvine Nov 2018 #18
His saudi masters leftynyc Nov 2018 #19
So, is Flynn STILL committing treason? nt DURHAM D Nov 2018 #8
Surely not!!?? - and remember that ex-CIA guy Woolsey had a big hand in this plot Leghorn21 Nov 2018 #11
trump is a weak and spineless idiot Gothmog Nov 2018 #13
How about KSA does something to Appease Turkey ... rather than the USA? mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #15
I fucking knew it!!! I figured Erdogan, if anything would be jealous of what the Saudis Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2018 #16
Time to go! atreides1 Nov 2018 #17
This is HORRIFIC angrychair Nov 2018 #20
There is no honour among thieves. Or authoritarians. muriel_volestrangler Nov 2018 #21

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,675 posts)
2. Extraditing him would be murder, plain and simple. Turkey may be better than Saudi Arabia, but....
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:01 PM
Nov 2018

{Previous title, or close to it: "That's the guy who lives up in Scranton, Pennsylvania, right?"}

We might as well make it official that the country has no principles anymore.

WhatCouldGoWrongHat Retweeted

Extraditing him would be murder, plain and simple. Turkey may be better than Saudi Arabia, but that's not saying much. Via @MollyJongFast


Leghorn21

(13,527 posts)
5. He's in PA, so yes, I guess it's Scranton
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:04 PM
Nov 2018

You know, Putin wants IQ45 to send him Michael McFaul and a few other people, and the state dept. never said NO

Fuckin hell

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. Fucking ehh Tweety Bird this is despicable.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:08 PM
Nov 2018

The United States (Donald Trump) has aligned our country with ruthless dictators. This can't be a serious request that we would entertain?

Me.

(35,454 posts)
14. Trial Balloon FromThe Comrade & Cretins In WH
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:38 PM
Nov 2018

This has Kushner's bloody fingerprints all over it. And as with everything that walking disaster of son-n-law touches, this will be a PR disaster.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
7. Why do WE have to appease Turkey?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:10 PM
Nov 2018

As a favor to the ones who sent us the vast majority of 9/11 hijackers?

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
9. If I remember right,
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:21 PM
Nov 2018

Trump has a tower in Turkey, at least his name is on the tower. Quid pro quo?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. If he sends this person back
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:27 PM
Nov 2018

to Turkey where he will surely get murdered, he should be charges as an accessory.

denvine

(802 posts)
18. The article says it's to try and get Erdogan to back off of Saudi Arabia for Khoshoggi killing
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:09 PM
Nov 2018

Unbelievable. He is willing to put a man to death so he can protect the Saudi Arabian tyrant from a dictator. Do I have this wrong?

"Trump administration officials last month asked federal law enforcement agencies to examine legal ways of removing exiled Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen in an attempt to persuade Erdogan to ease pressure on the Saudi government, the four sources said."

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
19. His saudi masters
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 03:18 PM
Nov 2018

thought they could get away with this having donnie in their pocket. They may not be wrong.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
15. How about KSA does something to Appease Turkey ... rather than the USA?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:42 PM
Nov 2018

They could start by NOT MURDERING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN TURKEY ...

How about KSA also appeases the USA by NOT sending 15 of 19 hijackers to slaughter 1000's of innocent Americans?

IOW, FUCK THOSE GUYS.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,506 posts)
16. I fucking knew it!!! I figured Erdogan, if anything would be jealous of what the Saudis
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 01:50 PM
Nov 2018

can do to their reporters. All along I've been wondering what he wanted in exchange to stop shitting on the Saudis. Now we know. And he now has "just the right" punk ass sociopath in the WH to do it for him.

atreides1

(16,100 posts)
17. Time to go!
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:25 PM
Nov 2018

Mr. Gulen should make an official request to Canada for political asylum, and he might want to do that now!!!


Honestly does anyone really think that Whittaker, Wray and Nielsen won't toss Gulen on a plane back to Turkey???

angrychair

(8,748 posts)
20. This is HORRIFIC
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 04:39 PM
Nov 2018

Mr. Gulden has been a legal resident for over 20 years. He fled Turkey because he proved that he would be killed in Turkey.

Seriously, I cannot think of ANYTHING more disturbing than even the suggestion from the WH to do this, much less doing it.

This sends the message to those here in the US, even after being here for decades, that they could be sent back on the whim of the WH for political gain.

This is very dangerous territory. There is no way this is legal. It sure as hell isnt ethical or moral.

This is the single greatest attack on immigration in US history.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,392 posts)
21. There is no honour among thieves. Or authoritarians.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:40 PM
Nov 2018

Trump would have someone killed if he thought it would get a favourable report on Fox.

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