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UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:28 AM Nov 2018

In a 'self-defeating and self-incriminating' slipup, Trump just indicated he installed Matthew Whita

Source: Business Insider

In a 'self-defeating and self-incriminating' slipup, Trump just indicated he installed Matthew Whitaker to kill the Russia probe

... snip ...

"What is so unusual about Trump is that he publicly forecasts his motivation in a way that is self-defeating and self-incriminating," Elie Honig, a former prosecutor from the Southern District of New York who specialized in organized-crime cases, told INSIDER.

Jeffrey Cramer, a longtime former federal prosecutor who spent 12 years at the DOJ, echoed that assessment.

"The president's knee-jerk pivot to talking about the Russia investigation when asked about Whitaker's qualification is what poker players call a 'tell,'" Cramer told INSIDER.

The most difficult thing for investigators to prove in an obstruction-of-justice case is corrupt intent on the part of the defendant.

"Sometimes you get lucky and get emails or wiretapped phone calls ... where the subject might secretly or privately admit intent," Honig said. "Other times the prosecutor simply must argue intent to the jury based on circumstantial evidence. With Trump, however, we have a subject who openly and publicly and unapologetically announces why he takes certain steps, even when those reasons might give rise to criminal liability."

Read more: https://amp.businessinsider.com/trump-installed-matthew-whitaker-to-kill-russia-probe-obstruction-of-justice-2018-11



Snipped past what we all know the Orange Menace said ... but there are some even better pieces of information in this article... well worth reading to the very end
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In a 'self-defeating and self-incriminating' slipup, Trump just indicated he installed Matthew Whita (Original Post) UpInArms Nov 2018 OP
Wow! This may be just as important as trump's infamous Lester Holt interview. empedocles Nov 2018 #1
I read that. But I think he may be riversedge Nov 2018 #11
It is always hard to keep your story straight.... safeinOhio Nov 2018 #2
Truth 'Killer' Whitaker will take the stinking hits for the KGOP republicans Achilleaze Nov 2018 #3
I don't get it... Maxheader Nov 2018 #4
Forcing Sessions out because he recused himself from the investigation UpInArms Nov 2018 #5
Oh, I totally agree dementia boy is using this guy to run interference Maxheader Nov 2018 #6
Intent, is the question UpInArms Nov 2018 #7
I noticed that, too. The author concludes that, but Trump never says that. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #8
If he is this transparent about his intent... Mazeltov Cocktail Nov 2018 #9
He is still in office because UpInArms Nov 2018 #10

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
11. I read that. But I think he may be
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 10:06 AM
Nov 2018

exaggerating a bit IMHO.
We are still waiting to see if Mueller keys in on the Lester Holt interview.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
3. Truth 'Killer' Whitaker will take the stinking hits for the KGOP republicans
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:26 AM
Nov 2018

Whitaker has been enlisted as the KGOP republican party's Butt Plug on the massive shitload of their criminal, nefarious, and treasonous deeds.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
4. I don't get it...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:44 AM
Nov 2018

Nothing at the link has cheetox saying in one sentence the appointment is to kill the russky investigation...
(2) sentences Whitteicare is respected and then on another subject...objecting, again,to the roosky
witch hunt...

Imho..no indication given..

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
5. Forcing Sessions out because he recused himself from the investigation
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:52 AM
Nov 2018

And putting someone in who had made statements that the investigation was “a witch hunt”

See this article

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/matthew-whitaker-has-tangled-history-mueller-probe-n933951

For example, in an Aug. 2017 CNN op-ed, Whitaker wrote that Mueller's investigation was at risk of becoming a "witch hunt." He added, channeling comments, by Trump, that it would be "dangerously close to crossing [a] red line" if Mueller looked into Trump's finances.


And from the OP article:

The president then appeared to allude to the fact that he tapped Whitaker primarily to constrain the Russia investigation.

"As far as I'm concerned, this is an investigation that should have never been brought," Trump told The Daily Caller. "It should have never been had ... It's an illegal investigation."

He then tacked on: "And you know, it's very interesting because when you talk about not Senate confirmed, [the special counsel Robert Mueller] is not Senate confirmed."

The admission is reminiscent of when Trump told NBC's Lester Holt last year that he ousted then FBI director James Comey because of the Russia investigation.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
6. Oh, I totally agree dementia boy is using this guy to run interference
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:55 AM
Nov 2018

on the investigation..but think fat boy has yet to say it..

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. I noticed that, too. The author concludes that, but Trump never says that.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:08 AM
Nov 2018

I can hear Judge Judy yelling in the background, "That's a conclusion! I asked you...what did he SAY, and what did YOU say?" Or..."You can't tell me what he meant by that! That's reading his mind. I asked you....what did he SAY!"

Trump merely says the same things he's always said about the Mueller investigation. We can infer that's why he hired Whitaker, and of course that IS why. But he never says that outright. Legally, that's a big difference.

Mazeltov Cocktail

(569 posts)
9. If he is this transparent about his intent...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:12 AM
Nov 2018

And if he does " project" and " broadcast " his actions, why the fuck is he still in office. I am sick of reading this transparent crap that is written to mollify the masses...

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
10. He is still in office because
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:17 AM
Nov 2018

Of his republican enablers ...

They have covered for him

Names of just three:

McConnell
Ryan
Nunes

I could go on ...

Grassley
The entire Republican swamp that won’t conduct hearings and sweep away their own malfeasance... ie ... Graham ....

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